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[*] posted on 7-2-2012 at 04:55 PM


Waste of money?????? I remember what was like when I was learning to drive in the 50's. no. I think they have done a wonderful job. otherwise you guys wouldn't even be down here.

Its easy now compared to what it used to be like. When I built in Abreojos 60 miles of hell.... now perfect, even with a few pot holes!!!




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Too many roads in Baja have been one inch of a/c over native graded soil. (a/c stands for asphaltic concrete, by the way)

I was surprised a couple years back to watch them working on added lanes between Ensenada and Guadalupe. They were down a couple feet, which would them be filled with base rock (I hope) and then a decent lift of a/c.

In California that would likely be 2.5 feet of base and two lifts of a/c, at least 1.5 inches per lift.
Out on 99 they are going down 3 feet.

The Baja road crew might just as well get some spray cans and paint that dirt black and forget about it. And, as pointed out, a ragged paved road is more dangerous than a regular dirt road.

Sad waste of time, effort and money.
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[*] posted on 7-2-2012 at 05:04 PM


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They are installing new ones in Ensenada. Slows everyone down:


Very cool advertising idea. You slam on the brakes and narrowly avoid being rear-ended in a melee and glide over the horror like over nothing at all, only to be greeted by the suspension system advertising painted on the road ahead of you.

May be illegal in certain jurisdictions (not Canada?), may cause road rage, check your local listings for details.

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[*] posted on 7-2-2012 at 05:40 PM


Naturally there's an international symbol for the problem.:lol:

pot hole sign.jpg - 5kB




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[*] posted on 7-2-2012 at 08:23 PM


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Any word from down south as to if there is going to be some repair done on the Tortugas Highway before the BA Fiesta?


not yet. but our road is sure nice. They paved the rest of the street in town as well. They are talking about paving along the coast. What does your Delegada have to say.


In our case, that would be Delegado. :biggrin: Now, would you quit hogging the road crews and send them our way?

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........I have long contended that in a Desert environment, many of the expensive concrete bridges over gully's (that often wash out) could just as well be crossed with Texas Crossings. Let the occasional flood water wash on by----it will all be gone within hours.

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Barry, when they first built the BA road (the new road from the Tortugas Road) there was one of those large gullies covered with a bridge built out of rock and concrete. Within the first couple of years, there was a big rain storm and it was gone in a flash. They rebuilt it more like a vado --- just like you suggested.

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[*] posted on 7-2-2012 at 10:18 PM


Kinda looks like the old road to BOLA.
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[*] posted on 7-3-2012 at 01:18 PM


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Kinda looks like the old road to BOLA.


That's for sure, Marc. We used to drive into BOLA on the "really old" road which was a dirt track thru El Desengano Mine north of the new paved road, and on to near Mesa la cantera where it re-joined the "new" paved road, thereby missing some of the worst potholes. The dirt road was in excellent shape back then, and much more fun than the "new" pavement which was in horrible shape. The only problem was that it was hard to find the west end where it left the main highway, but after we had the mileages down pat, not so difficult. That very old dirt track goes thru some really spectacular cactus forests, and was well worth it to drive. Don't know what shape it is in now, tho------it has been years since we drove it.

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[*] posted on 7-3-2012 at 01:22 PM


That area must be still richly rewarding to visit. Untouched desert and cardonales are quite beautiful.



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