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terrybird
Junior Nomad
Posts: 37
Registered: 2-6-2005
Location: South of Minneapolis, MN
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spammed
I just got hit bigtime at me e-mail address by someone, and all or most of you may be involved. If you get any e-mail from a tobyrds it was sent by
somebody with access to this site. Sorry for the inconvenience I pray I was the only one affected.
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Ken Bondy
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3326
Registered: 12-13-2002
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Mood: Mellow
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I got about 40 of them.
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Bruce R Leech
Elite Nomad
Posts: 6796
Registered: 9-20-2004
Location: Ensenada formerly Mulege
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Mood: A lot cooler than Mulege
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I learned my lesson a long time ago on that one I check all mail before downloading and opening. how did you Know it was connected to the Nomad forum?
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
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terrybird
Junior Nomad
Posts: 37
Registered: 2-6-2005
Location: South of Minneapolis, MN
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Ew! I got 60, sorry to hear that. I hope it is over.
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 65246
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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Well... what seems to have happened is one person (maybe more) wanted off Ted's (Baja Talk Radio) Mexico news e-letter. However, instead of following
the easily seen remove instructions (at the bottom of Ted's news letter), that person(s) hit 'reply all' and his complaint flooded everyone's email...
then more followed suit... Before I knew how big this list was, I responded to a reply all from Marla, explaining who to contact... that went to all,
as well... before I knew it was a LOT! Using Blind Carbon Copy BCc would have prevented this, I think...
Here is a sample of the responding:
[Mexicovisitor] Please take me off your list.
Show me where I called YOU an idiot?
But anyway. We're unlikely to convince the twit running mexicovisitor.com
that adding a bunch of people to a mailing list without their permission is
not a good idea. He's obviously a spammer.
The best bet would be for those of you who are annoyed enough to contact the
web hosting service who are running the mail server sending all these
message out:
NETHERE INC.
***********
**********
*********
**********
Someone in San Diego please give ******* a call and inform him that
one of his clients has filled a mailing list with stolen email addresses and
is bugging the chit out of a bunch of innocent people.
Patrick, please arrange a meeting with the owner of mexicovisitor.com and
introduce him to Mr ClueBat.
Thanks,
On Apr 6, 2005, at 3:43 PM, ****** wrote:
> These are not coming from Me. For some reason I am on the receiving
> end of Mexico visitors crap so don't call me an idiot e-mail them at
> www.mexicovisitor.com and all them idiots.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: *****
> To: <mexicovisitor-list@lists.mexicovisitor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mexicovisitor] Please take me off your list.
>
>
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>> Could you idiots please stop sending "remove us" messages to the list.
[Edited on 4-7-2005 by David K]
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Bruce R Leech
Elite Nomad
Posts: 6796
Registered: 9-20-2004
Location: Ensenada formerly Mulege
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Mood: A lot cooler than Mulege
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wow that is strange
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
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jeans
Super Nomad
Posts: 1059
Registered: 9-16-2002
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Blind CC is not applicable in this instance. Ted was using a listserve and it was functioning properly. However, it is intended for groups who want
to interact with each other and it was the wrong format for his newsletter.
I was one of the first to reply with "what's going on?" when I got the first communications, then the flood started and I realized what had happened.
Ted must have two addresses for me because I got TWO of everything. I called his cell and left a message.
It was almost funny to see post after post of people who just did not "get" it...and the ones who were trying to make others "get" it. Tempers were
starting to flare.
All in all I think it was an innocent mistake on Ted's part.
[Edited on 4-7-2005 by jeans]
Mom always told me to be different - Now she says...Not THAT different
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terrybird
Junior Nomad
Posts: 37
Registered: 2-6-2005
Location: South of Minneapolis, MN
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spam
After looking at it I see it came from (mexico visitor), Ted. I hope that was the only flurry. hell, Ted was going to send me a T-shirt maybe now I
will get 60
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terrybird
Junior Nomad
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Registered: 2-6-2005
Location: South of Minneapolis, MN
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 65246
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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Ted's email about the spamming duplicated here:
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Hi Keri,
I am so sorry for what is happening/happened. I had no idea and from the emails I just checked I can see there is a huge problem. I think my webhost
was hacked, but not sure.
I am in Acapulco at a tradeshow to promote Baja Talk Radio and MexicoVisitor, but will call my webhost in San Diego early in the morning to take care
of this. I am taking eveyone off the list and will not use an email update again.
Once again I am so sorry for all the problems and in no way would I ever do this intentionally. I am not a spammer, just wanted to get the word out.
Ted
[Edited on 4-7-2005 by David K]
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Keri
Super Nomad
Posts: 1393
Registered: 10-31-2002
Location: La Mision, Baja Norte
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Ted Donavan just sent me this. Please read
Hi Keri
I am so sorry for what is happening/happened. I had no idea and from the emails I just checked I can see there is a huge problem. I think my webhost
was hacked, but not sure.
I am in Acapulco at a tradeshow to promote Baja Talk Radio and MexicoVisitor, but will call my webhost in San Diego early in the morning to take care
of this. I am taking eveyone off the list and will not use an email update again.
Once again I am so sorry for all the problems and in no way would I ever do this intentionally. I am not a spammer, just wanted to get the word out.
Ted
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 65246
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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TED SAID: "Once again I am so sorry for all the problems and in no way would I ever do this intentionally. I am not a spammer, just wanted to get the
word out."
It is too bad you think Ted is being untruthful... Having met him at The Baja Cactus Cultural Fiesta, and twice been an on-air guest on his Internet
radio show, I believe I may 'know him' a little more than you... Don't be so hard on a guy who is very enthusiastic about promoting Baja and brings
many interesting people to our listening pleasure. Baja Nomad gets over 8,000 different visitors a month, so promoting his show here (and the other
message boards) has got to be a great and effective way to enlighten us Baja nuts about future shows... many of great interest or assistance to us
all.
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Natalie Ann
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2819
Registered: 8-22-2003
Location: Berkeley
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Lucky me - I received several hundred of these emails. I ran out of amusing thoughts about it soon as my email boxes filled up and I had to sit here
for 3 hours straight deleting every email that came in, just to make room for the email I wanted. I did write to the site - their very first email
gave a place to ask questions or make complaints - but got no response whatsoever. Also wrote Ted and figured out he was away.
Then a solution occured to me.... pretty easy, check the Properties/Details.
This shows you the trail from which the emails were sent; and you find a listing for abuse@nethere.com. Send an email to them briefly explaining the
problem along with copies of several of the emails you're receiving.
This should alert the server to the fact of what is happening..... be sure to mention that you never signed up to be on this mailing list. Sure hope
this puts an end to it.
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 65246
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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Thanks Natalie...
I wonder why some got so many? You would think I would get the most, but I might have gotten 60 max, and all except a couple (from known friends) went
right to my junk mail box (you gotta love MSN email, if nothing else from Bill Gates)!
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The Gull
Super Nomad
Posts: 2223
Registered: 8-28-2003
Location: Rancho Descanso, BCN
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Mood: High
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David K don't defend an obvious ploy
Yeah, I didn't know the gun was loaded either.
In this day and age, there are no mistakes like this on the Internet, especially from people who make communications their livelihood.
The dude isn't credible.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Natalie Ann
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2819
Registered: 8-22-2003
Location: Berkeley
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Don't know why I got so many either, David. Perhaps because I'm such a popular woman. 
While I am not angry with Ted - I realize he would not do this on purpose - but I did lose an entire afternoon of work time, which put me in quite a
p***y mood by afternoon's end. When Ted's back I'll be talking with him; still don't get how this happened.
The good part? I (finally) figured out how to get my email program to block mail by SUBJECT, not people/places it's from. So now I have a new skill
to add to my limited resume of computer skills.
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 65246
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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But Gull, he was in Acapulco attending a trade show when this happened... So blame his web host or ???
In the days of my Viva Baja events, I only had WebTV for emailing invitations and updates... There is no 'blind carbon copy' feature on WebTV... A
couple people (as in this case) hit 'Reply All' instead of Reply (only to the sender) in their responces or comments and one person added the list to
his email for sending out jokes or whatever...
Anyway, it wasn't my fault that person used 'reply-all'.... as it wasn't Ted's. I since added a big warning to the bottom of my mass emailings to not
spam your fellow Baja amigos or use their emails. Everyone understood, and all ended well... I do have a computer now as well as the WebTV.
How so many more folks got on his email is unknown to me, but at the bottom is the feature to be removed from the list.
I think Ted is credible and certainly wouldn't do anything to pee off the people he wants to be friends with or provide information for... IMHO.
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Price
Nomad
Posts: 168
Registered: 8-29-2003
Location: Las Vegas/San Felipe
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I just got home from work - had 65 of these e-mails - none even addressed to my e-mail address !!!!!! BIG PAIN IN THE A__!!!!!
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Price
Nomad
Posts: 168
Registered: 8-29-2003
Location: Las Vegas/San Felipe
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Today's Posts - 4/5
Just realized I had read Ted's post yesterday - and - today am flooded with junk - I am computer challenged - how did this happen ??
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mulege marv
Senior Nomad
Posts: 652
Registered: 10-8-2004
Location: san carlos / grass valley, calif.
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yes i believe it was hacked as recieved 100 messages in my email this morning, all spam !
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