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[*] posted on 7-18-2012 at 01:44 PM


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Think I've been told Canadians cannot be out of the country for longer than 6 months. Is that true?

Is there a similar rule for the US?


Blue Shield says we are not supposed to be out of the country for more than 30 days.




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[*] posted on 7-18-2012 at 02:28 PM


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And speaking of health care. Canadian friends we had over for lunch yesterday dropped their jaws when I told them that health insurance for my wife and me costs us $1,156.25 per month in the USA.
Needless to say, they pay somewhat less.


And needless to say, they get a whole lot less.:yes:


Do they get less? How do you know? All Canadians I've ever discussed this with are very happy with their level of care. Those I have known with very serious conditions have been treated quickly and effectively. Sure, some have had to wait for optional stuff, but I have to wait for approvals etc. from my HMO too.




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[*] posted on 7-18-2012 at 03:52 PM


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Do they get less? How do you know? All Canadians I've ever discussed this with are very happy with their level of care. [/quote How many US citizens go to Canada for medical treatment? How many Canadians go to the US for medical treatment. It's a one-way street!:biggrin:
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[*] posted on 7-18-2012 at 04:06 PM


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Think I've been told Canadians cannot be out of the country for longer than 6 months. Is that true?

Is there a similar rule for the US?




its only true when they visit the USA

the 6 month rule is ours
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[*] posted on 7-18-2012 at 04:07 PM


Hey mulegemichael, I don't know of one single Canadian that does not tip at least 15 to 20 %. Are you sure that your not hanging out with draft-dodgers that claim to be Canadian:lol::lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 7-18-2012 at 06:25 PM


I'm a Canadian that tips very generously for good service and I actually don't know of anyone that doesn't. The American system is very different from ours. Here's a article explaining some of the differences.This article was about a automatic tipping proposal in Toronto Canada.


"Nobody's demanding that anybody tip anything," he told the Post. "It's a personal decision. If [customers] want to, they can. If they don't want to, they don't have to."

The commonly accepted tip these days is 15 per cent, more if you find the service exceptional. The recent move is drawing kudos from restaurant servers, who point out 20 per cent tips are customary in large U.S. cities such as New York.

"But while Toronto servers earn a minimum hourly wage of $8.90, waiters in the Big Apple only earn $4.65 per hour 'because their total compensation includes expected tips,' according to the New York State Department of Labour," the Post says.

Of course, in a flush town like Calgary, big tips are more common.

"Eighteen to 20 per cent is easily the norm," said Janet Watson, an Alberta-based etiquette expert. "Some people tip 25 per cent ... I don't know anybody who tips 10 per cent anymore. Fifteen per cent is the bottom line here."

In Vancouver, Cafe Medina manager Robbie Kane says his eatery assigns an 18 per cent gratuity to groups of eight or more. During the 2010 Olympics, many Vancouver restaurants and bars apparently added 20 per cent tips to the bill.

Server Aidan Johnston has worked in Australia, where the hourly restaurant wage is $19.50 and tips are small "keep-the-change" gratuities, and in Toronto, where the minimum wage is $8.90 an hour but a good server can earn up to $200 a night in tips.

"I like the excitement of getting tips," Johnston told the Toronto Star. "It's like opening a Christmas present when you see that billfold."

The Star reports that the low-wage, high-tip model is unlikely to change because restaurants operate on thin profit margins. Raising pay to Australian levels would raise
menu prices and remove some of the incentive to provide excellent service.

"Is Joe Consumer willing to pay 20 per cent more for a meal and have not great service?" asks Todd Sherman, co-owner of the Gabby's restaurant chain.

Some places take the compulsory tip practice very seriously. An American couple was arrested a few years ago for refusing to pay the automatic gratuity tacked onto their bill after getting poor service. Leslie Pope and John Wagner were hauled away by police and charged with theft for not paying the mandatory 18 per cent gratuity totaling $16 after eating at the Lehigh Pub in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, with six friends.

Police later dropped the charges.

It seems various countries have different policies for tipping, much of it depending on wages paid to servers, or maybe service recieved.
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[*] posted on 7-18-2012 at 07:17 PM


to ad a little here

I live in an area that during the winter is heavily populated with Snowbirds, I would guess that close to 50% are canadians. its well known here in Yuma that by far most canadians just will not tip
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[*] posted on 7-18-2012 at 07:34 PM


Canadians are wealther than Americans


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[*] posted on 7-19-2012 at 09:39 AM


My son is a busboy at a five star restaurant in NorCal. He says the worst tippers are the Brits. A lot of time they leave zero tip!
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[*] posted on 7-19-2012 at 10:20 AM


It is up to be tip(per) to be aware of the customs in the particular area they are in. Very wealthy Mexicans are frugal tippers as well. I have seen a millionaire Mexican argue with a worker for twenty minutes over a (eqvt) two dollar a day difference in a wage.

Never, ever in my long life, have I ever heard of, never mind encountered a spend-thrift Canadian. After visiting Canada, and seeing for myself how much more expensive it was/is than the US I have to wonder why a box of made in Canada wheat crackers made with Canadian wheat is 50% more expensive.




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[*] posted on 7-19-2012 at 10:58 AM


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We may pay more taxes but we have a secure Canadian Pension Plan, a Guaranteed Old Age Pension, an affordable Medical Plan for all, a working social welfare system, good wages, a controlled banking system, and on top of all that we are polite.


Q: How does a Canadian celebity get the paparazzi off his lawn?

A: He comes to the door and says "Please get offf my lawn."




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[*] posted on 7-19-2012 at 11:09 AM


In the Netherlands, where I grew up, it was, and maybe still is, customary to add 15% tip to your bill in restaurants and nightclubs. Of course the servers/bartenders expected at least another 15 to 20% cash on top of that. Was considered normal by most of us.:biggrin:
Does make things rather expensive though.:biggrin:




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[*] posted on 7-19-2012 at 12:50 PM


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Q: How does a Canadian celebity get the paparazzi off his lawn?

A: He comes to the door and says "Please get offf my lawn."


It's acceptable up here to be polite....the NRA response is not what always come to mind at first...:biggrin:




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[*] posted on 7-19-2012 at 02:46 PM


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Q: How does a Canadian celebity get the paparazzi off his lawn?

A: He comes to the door and says "Please get offf my lawn."


It's acceptable up here to be polite....the NRA response is not what always come to mind at first...:biggrin:


And fortunately it is only an unfortunate part of our society that comes up with the NRA response--- and they need to go away. :biggrin::biggrin:

These things seem to cross all the borders

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[*] posted on 7-19-2012 at 03:53 PM


A couple years back someone I know here in Canada had what was first diagnosed as a stroke

We came home from baja and within a coupe months had every test known to
mankind preformed

I'm talking all the high-tech tests....everything

The monthly payment here is approx. $50

That was the cost for her $50

I read somewhere where (maybe here) that hospital costs in the US are the #1 leading cause for bankruptysy in the "Land of the free"

food for thought http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16K6m3Ua2nw&feature=relat...




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[*] posted on 7-19-2012 at 04:08 PM


Timo1, Canada has a population of 34 million. The USA has a population of 313 million(not counting the illegals). And there're a lot of folks that due to lifestyle choices are in dire need of cheap medical attention. Do the math.:biggrin:
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[*] posted on 7-19-2012 at 04:13 PM


Yup and your 313 million should be able to support your own health care

do the math




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[*] posted on 7-19-2012 at 04:34 PM


Timo1, I've worked hard to pay my own way. I'm not happy about paying for a bunch of "free loaders" who have never contributed a dime to the "system". Most of their medical problems are the result of obesity, lack of exercise, and poor life choices. And I'm supposed to pay for their medical care?:biggrin:
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[*] posted on 7-19-2012 at 04:34 PM


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Yup and your 313 million should be able to support your own health care

do the math


:yes::yes:

The math works --- it is, unfortunately, a matter of will.




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[*] posted on 7-19-2012 at 04:41 PM


DianaT, :biggrin: The math works?:oA matter of will? How 'bout a matter of who? As in who's gonna pay for all the "dead beats"?:biggrin:
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