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EnsenadaDr
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Have we learned anything from the Mexican potholes?
Remember the Maneadero fiasco and the pothole repairs? For years and years the Mexican government went on trying to fix the potholes on the road to
La Bufadora until they got their groove on and paved the road. The potholes became worse after they were filled in and kudos to Mexico for realizing
that. Right now I am in a pothole war in Hawaii, the good old USA. It seems that my road was a direct route to a Chinese POW war camp in World War
II and kept its private road status but became an easement after the first 500 feet and the last 1/4 mile cul de sac of a 2 mile stretch which is
maintained by the highway department. Seems the descendants of the road, by the deed dated in 1969 that I got a copy of and for a price of $10
American, gave the county the right to use the easement but opted out of all liabilities. The county denies liability and maintenance and so do the
descendants of the World War II private POW war camp...any suggestions? I called the City Councilman and got no response.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Remember the Maneadero fiasco and the pothole repairs? For years and years the Mexican government went on trying to fix the potholes on the road to
La Bufadora until they got their groove on and paved the road. The potholes became worse after they were filled in and kudos to Mexico for realizing
that. Right now I am in a pothole war in Hawaii, the good old USA. It seems that my road was a direct route to a Chinese POW war camp in World War
II and kept its private road status but became an easement after the first 500 feet and the last 1/4 mile cul de sac of a 2 mile stretch which is
maintained by the highway department. Seems the descendants of the road, by the deed dated in 1969 that I got a copy of and for a price of $10
American, gave the county the right to use the easement but opted out of all liabilities. The county denies liability and maintenance and so do the
descendants of the World War II private POW war camp...any suggestions? I called the City Councilman and got no response. |
you are a haole. city staff will ignore you when you call. you are SOOL
[Edited on 10-15-2012 by mtgoat666]
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EnsenadaDr
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Well, thanks Goat, I just posted an editorial in the Honolulu Advertiser and the Hawaii Tribune-Herald. It seemed I got the police commissioners to
turn in their badges a few years ago after I went to the City Council meeting. Hopefully SOMEONE will step up to the plate. By the way, there are a
few Haolis working for the County.
[Edited on 10-15-2012 by EnsenadaDr]
[Edited on 10-15-2012 by EnsenadaDr]
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luv2fish
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Remember the Maneadero fiasco and the pothole repairs? For years and years the Mexican government went on trying to fix the potholes on the road to
La Bufadora until they got their groove on and paved the road. The potholes became worse after they were filled in and kudos to Mexico for realizing
that. Right now I am in a pothole war in Hawaii, the good old USA. It seems that my road was a direct route to a Chinese POW war camp in World War
II and kept its private road status but became an easement after the first 500 feet and the last 1/4 mile cul de sac of a 2 mile stretch which is
maintained by the highway department. Seems the descendants of the road, by the deed dated in 1969 that I got a copy of and for a price of $10
American, gave the county the right to use the easement but opted out of all liabilities. The county denies liability and maintenance and so do the
descendants of the World War II private POW war camp...any suggestions? I called the City Councilman and got no response. |
Hola Ensenada Dr. Just to clarify, do the former Chinese P.O.W.s own this place now ?? Or have I over medicated myself ?_
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greengoes
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The descendants of the Chinese POW's of WWII own part of the road if I read this correctly, and the SOB's won't fix the potholes!!
Tenga buen dia.
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Interesting
WWII Chinese POW's......????????
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David K
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Chinese POWs ???
We were at war with Japan.
China was also fighting Japan... an ally of ours, not an enemy.
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lol... I hope you refrained from reminding the City Council that Hawaii is part of the good old USA? I can't imagine that winning friends or
influencing anyone... in a positive manner.
Do you own the property?
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rts551
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Why would the city council care about a County road anyway?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Have we learned anything from the Mexican potholes?
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Of course. We've learned to drive around them rather than into them.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Why would the city council care about a County road anyway? |
Good catch! The County Commissioners would be the go-to guys/gals.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Have we learned anything from the Mexican potholes?
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Of course. We've learned to drive around them rather than into them.
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greengoes
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Have we learned anything from the Mexican potholes?
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Of course. We've learned to drive around them rather than into them.
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[Edited on 10-15-2012 by DENNIS] |
Mexican pothole plan of action:
a) If it is on side of road maneuver around it.
b) If it is in middle of road, and not too wide, drive over it and miss it.
c) If it spans the whole road and can swallow an 18 wheel semi-trailer
hit the gas and try to jump it.
d) If you don't clear the jump call Esteban's Towing Service and have it taken to the nearest LLantera.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Chinese POWs ???
We were at war with Japan.
China was also fighting Japan... an ally of ours, not an enemy. |
We've been at war with a whole bunch of countries. But during WW2 China was an ally, but during the Kimchi scandal China was backing North Korea.
Maybe thats where we got P.O.W.s and took them to a nice island in Hawaii. And now they own the place ???? Give me a break.... Only in and to
Americans...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by luv2fish
We've been at war with a whole bunch of countries. But during WW2 China was an ally, but during the Kimchi scandal China was backing North Korea.
Maybe thats where we got P.O.W.s and took them to a nice island in Hawaii. And now they own the place ???? Give me a break.... Only in and to
Americans... |
On October 1950 the Chinese sent 175,000 screaming troops into Korea as the South Koreans, with U.S. Military assistance, had pushed the North Koreans
back to the to border of China which is the Yalu River. The result of this action pushed the Korean and U.S. forces back down the peninsula and caused
some of the toughest fighting during the entire conflict.
They effectively stopped an early end to the conflict and would prolong it another 2 1/2 years.
No Chinese POW's were sent to Hawaii, it is rumored they sent them to NYC where they opened numerous Chinese Food Carryouts.
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luv2fish
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| Quote: | Originally posted by greengoes
| Quote: | Originally posted by luv2fish
We've been at war with a whole bunch of countries. But during WW2 China was an ally, but during the Kimchi scandal China was backing North Korea.
Maybe thats where we got P.O.W.s and took them to a nice island in Hawaii. And now they own the place ???? Give me a break.... Only in and to
Americans... |
On October 1950 the Chinese sent 175,000 screaming troops into Korea as the South Koreans, with U.S. Military assistance, had pushed the North Koreans
back to the to border of China which is the Yalu River. The result of this action pushed the Korean and U.S. forces back down the peninsula and caused
some of the toughest fighting during the entire conflict.
They effectively stopped an early end to the conflict and would prolong it another 2 1/2 years.
No Chinese POW's were sent to Hawaii, it is rumored they sent them to NYC where they opened numerous Chinese Food Carryouts. |
You forgot San Francisco.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by luv2fish
You forgot San Francisco. |
And Mexicali. 
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EnsenadaDr
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Descendants of POW camps
You know, I reread this post I wrote and the owners of the road are Chinese and I assumed they were descendants. The whole idea of POW camps for the
Chinese in WWII was surprising to me a few years back, and I guess I will do some research on it. It is quite an interesting story. There are some
very old buildings that are still standing from WWII as well, one being Pauline's bakery, which is owned by Portuguese who influxed into the area many
years ago, I guess for fishing. There are quite a number of Portuguese on the island, one store Crivello's that sell Malasadas, a delicious
portuguese donut and Portuguese sausage and bean soup. I emailed my article to the whole board of the City Council so they can see my representative
didn't answer my inquiry as I remember he didn't a few years back on another issue. He is probably best friends with the Chongs. | Quote: | Originally posted by luv2fish
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Remember the Maneadero fiasco and the pothole repairs? For years and years the Mexican government went on trying to fix the potholes on the road to
La Bufadora until they got their groove on and paved the road. The potholes became worse after they were filled in and kudos to Mexico for realizing
that. Right now I am in a pothole war in Hawaii, the good old USA. It seems that my road was a direct route to a Chinese POW war camp in World War
II and kept its private road status but became an easement after the first 500 feet and the last 1/4 mile cul de sac of a 2 mile stretch which is
maintained by the highway department. Seems the descendants of the road, by the deed dated in 1969 that I got a copy of and for a price of $10
American, gave the county the right to use the easement but opted out of all liabilities. The county denies liability and maintenance and so do the
descendants of the World War II private POW war camp...any suggestions? I called the City Councilman and got no response. |
Hola Ensenada Dr. Just to clarify, do the former Chinese P.O.W.s own this place now ?? Or have I over medicated myself ?_
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EnsenadaDr
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Thanks David
David,
Mr. Chong, who owns Chong Street I assumed was Chinese but maybe Japanese. And I am not sure if he is a descendant of the camp. But the street is
named after him and he told me it dates way back to his family in WWII and that it did house a POW camp then. Maybe you can reconstruct the history
for me because Mr. Chong will not respond anymore to my calls even though he told me he was going to write a letter to the building department
claiming an easement should be maintained by the highway department if they are using it, according to his first semester law school class (yes,
conveniently he is an attorney). Even my water meter is on another property because it was a subdivision of the Chongs and had been on another part
of their property and the water company won't put it on my property, I have to jump the fence to turn off the meter in case of a leak (another whole
issue). | Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Chinese POWs ???
We were at war with Japan.
China was also fighting Japan... an ally of ours, not an enemy. |
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
David,
I have to jump the fence to turn off the meter in case of a leak |
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Is this in Hawaii U.S.A. ?? or is this in Hawaii Baja California ??
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