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SwissFrank
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Bahia Asuncion Area
You guys have a lot of great info on this website. I have been following for weeks. Can a few of the Nomads share why they are leaving the Bahia
Asuncion area? It looks like a great little place but something doesn't seem quite right. I would appreciate feedback as I may be in the market for a
house in Baja shortly. Thanks for a great site!
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Bajaboy
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Who is leaving?
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DENNIS
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Frank....When you get our age, old and feeble, life makes unannounced, radical changes and we have to adjust along with it.
Don't allow others here to form your opinions about Baja locations. Look and see for yourself.
Welcome to BajaNomad, by the way.
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SwissFrank
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Bajaboy, At least a couple of gringos selling in the past couple of months
Dennis, If you were a bit younger would you make Asuncion a place you called home?
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Curt63
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I smell a troll
No worries
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Curt63
I smell a troll |
By golly, I do believe you may be correct --- maybe not, but the smell is definitely there.
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SwissFrank
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Curt63, Thank you for your help.
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SwissFrank
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DinaT, Thank you for your help as well. I was hoping you would be one of the Nomads that would have helped me with this.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SwissFrank
Bajaboy, At least a couple of gringos selling in the past couple of months
Dennis, If you were a bit younger would you make Asuncion a place you called home? |
I would if fishing meant anything to me, but it no longer does. I think many here would feel the same.
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David K
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I have heard that sometimes people from another country will move in, and try and change the place from what it was to something that they left! When
the town prefers it unchanged, the foreigner leaves. Poor health could be another reason to leave their Baja home...
In the case of Bahia Asuncion, thanks (in part) to the hospitality of Shari and Juan Arce, http://bahiaasuncion.com most gringos are happy to live there or vacation there.
The fishing rocks, the weather is near perfect, and not gloomy like the Pacific coast to the north, it is all paved road to get there, and more
services being added. ... at least the ones the town desires!
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SwissFrank
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David K, Thank you for that.
Dennis, It does look like the fishing is good there.
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shari
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Swiss Frank...welcome to the bajanomad sandbox. As happens everywhere in the world everyone sells their place for different reasons...the one full
time gringo that sold his place was due to health issues and we all miss him dearly but are very happy with the new folks who bought it.
I believe Laurie boats, who wasnt here very often is selling because they want to go cruising on their new yacht they just bought.
Some people bought on spec also...bought very cheap, never lived here and are selling for profit....some just move on to other places.
Those of us who live here full time love it....I suggest you come and see for yourself why!
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David K
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Frank, I have only been there twice (2007 and 2012), but it is a very comfortable and relaxing location. Fishing is a major draw, but the endless
miles of beach, the ocean activities, including fishing are great. I no longer fish much, but the desert exploring is great there... go on fossil
hunts and find petrified sharks teeth! See photos from last summer, posted here: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=61576 (we went to Asuncion on the northern, leg... so the photos of it are in the second half of
the pages).
Our 2007 trip to Bahia Asuncion and beyond: http://vivabaja.com/707
[Edited on 2-6-2013 by David K]
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
Some people bought on spec also...bought very cheap, never lived here and are selling for profit... |
WHO? Just curious as to who bought on spec only? No one I can think of???? Except for a couple of vacant lot owners, local and not local.
SwissFrank, the only way to know anything about Bahia Asuncion is to visit there and then you only scratch the surface of what the town is really all
about. But to just listen to what others say, especially those who have only visited there a couple of times is not a good idea. And only each
individual knows why they are selling --- others like to speculate and are usually incorrect.
Just so you know for us we do not intend to make much in profit considering what we have in our place. But we don't really care about making a profit
because the place has been our second home and main vacation place for several years and it has been worth it. We started at quite a high price on
the advice of others--- should have never listened. We love that town and the local people, several who have become very good friends.
We never intended to live their full time but some years we spent more time there than at our other home. We are selling because of new adventures
and projects, thus we want to become visitors when we are in Asuncion, and we will be there to see our friends.
Your first post sounds like a troll, but maybe not --- but believe me, we get so many inquiries from people who are clueless, that unless someone has
visited there, or has at least visited lots of places in Baja that are similar, we don't take them seriously. We get questions like who the best
swimming pool builder is --- real nonsense questions.
If you think you would like the place, visit it. Shari has rentals and a campground, there is the Verduzco Hotel, and the Bahia Asuncion B & B,
and plenty of open area nearby for primitive camping.
So if you are not a troll, I apologize --- just investigate on your own --- it is always better that way.
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BajaBlanca
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SwissFrank - welcome to bajanomad ! there are a lot of people seeling up and down baja and the point made by Dennis is the one most mentioned to me
when we travel to different areas in baja - many folks bought when they were young nd now that 15 or 20 years have gone by, they find it is time to
move back nearer tot their kids or kin.
But look a the number of people buying !! It has suddenly jumped too.
such is Life. come and visit and see the wonders of each little village for yourself.
[Edited on 2-6-2013 by BajaBlanca]
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SwissFrank
.......as I may be in the market for a house in Baja shortly..... |
SwissFrank,
How much time have you spent in Baja? Are you a seasoned Baja visitor?
If you haven't spent alot of time there, it would be wise to invistigate personally at least 6 or so locations. Find one that speaks to you and rent
a place there, or park your RV there, and spend 6 months including time during summer and winter.
There's a world of difference of vacationing for a brief period and living there fulltime. There will be many buying opportunites for sometime to
come.
Enjoy your research, it's tough work.
Ken
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DianaT
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Ken is correct.
The better question would be for you to ask the expats who live full time in an area as to why they have made it their full time home. And then take
the time to meet and talk with many of the locals and see how they feel about what is happening in their towns and learn who they are. Most gringo
visitors to Baja, it seems, tend to only hang around the other gringos and maybe one or two Mexicans. Of course in some settlements in Baja the
Mexicans are few and far between.
Most of the ex-pats in Asuncion are not full time --- most home owners either vacation there or summer there, but there are some. Visit Asuncion and
talk with Zoe, Paul who has been there forever, Duke, Bonnie and Bill (still a bit of their time is in San Bruno, but they are full time Baja people,
Ed and Jean who build the B & B and still share their time between Asuncion and Punta Chivato in Baja, I forgot the name of the couple who bought
Kevin's house, but they are full time, Beth who is full time Baja---Asuncion and Punta Chivato and I am sure I forgot a few of the full time ex-pat
Baja people in Asuncion.
Then as Ken said, do the same thing in other locations. There are people buying and selling all over Baja.
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shari
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Diane, I personally know several people, american & mexican who bought lots with the intention of selling them later on. I would prefer not to
mention them by name but you also know some of these folks and dont know some others. I didnt mean YOU...your place is a good deal for the price you
are offering and I have told many people that you couldnt build it for less than that not to mention the beautiful beachfront and surf location.
good luck in your search for paradise Frank!
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DavidE
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I don't know of one single place in all of México that is "perfect" for everyone. Personally myself and quite a number of other folks I know cannot
stand so called "perfect places" such as Ajijic, San Miguel de Allende, and many many many towns and villages that have been "gringoized". A
gringoized town is where you ask something in Spanish and they answer in acccentless Ingles.
Asunción is not for everyone. No place is. Nightlife consists of listening to sidewalks roll up, doors slam and light switches clicking. It isn't
"tropical" Mexico. Most of the year the temperature is to Californians "cool" with a good sprinkling of "chilly" thrown in, and then in the summer it
can warm up plenty (which suits me but may not be ideal for folks from chilly climes).
It is isolated here and even more so if you have very limited Spanish skills. Gracias A Dios, to me having Mexican neighbors is as natural as having
O'Connors, and O'Douls, in Boston. It's one l-o-n-g drive to get to a large supermarket or big box store. The biggest medical facilities would fit
right in with the most rural areas of North Dakota, and West Texas.
It is one hell of a rare day when the wind does not blow with "Viggah" especially in the afternoons. So blowing dust and dirt makes housekeeping by
mop and sponge a three days per week ordeal for me.
But for a lot of people pure-flat-out-boredom turns out to be the most pervasive challenge living in an area like this. Shoot a thirty ought six six
inches off the ground and the bullet may travel a long way before it hits anything. The area probably ranks 97 in a scale of 1 to 100 from the
accepted "Most Picturesque" list of coastal areas in Mexico. The land is pretty bleak. Even cacti are withered and drab.
But the Mexican people (as is true in most rural areas) are friendly and amiable. Crime is extremely rare).
The road from Asunción has been partially repaired. Now the "other" 30 miles has degraded into shock absorber snapping, curse provoking, jolts,
crashes and rapid braking practicing. The joke of a bank BanComer ATM in Vizcaino seldom has worked for me, anteyer, even the cajero automatico
BanComer in Guerrero Negro failed to work at all and driving 240 miles round-trip to the nearest working ATM (BanaMex in Guerrero Negro) takes its
toll on people's patience.
I whet my whistle in the early years living in impossibly remote areas of Oaxaca, Chiapas, Guerrero and Quintana Roo. The indigenas barely spoke
español so Asunciõn poses no challenge to me whatsoever.
But everyone is different. Unless neighbors and friends can put up with your visits every day, a person has to learn to live comfortably with and by
themselves.
Anything less than a month's stay IMHO is an utter waste of time as a trial period. Folks have homes to rent here for a tryout. I heartily urge anyone
contemplating a move to get it a trial first.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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LancairDriver
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David E-Thanks for a very frank opinion. You covered a lot of questions for anyone interested in the area.
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