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volcano
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thwarted attempted thugging/ la ribera
yesterday a.m., drove the hour to La Ribera for much needed ice for the cooler. 10. a.m., left El Rey tienda and headed out the long empty road back
toward Cabo Pulmo and Castillo de Arena area where I am building. A vehicle began to tail me, didn't take any advantage of passing.
soon starterd flashing his lights at me. I made certain it wasn't a cop, and kept moving along. Next a fist motioning for me to pull over was added
with the lights flashing. It was obvious he did not mean well for me, or my money...
I put pedal to the metal and accelerated. He kept pace for a mile or so, and gave up, while continuing along at a distance. I put miles between us as
quickly as possible.
Me, a 60 yr old woman, driving rental car, him...driving faded army green vehicle covered with car racing stickers(like valvoline etc)
at least on the front end. I was too freaked to identify the make of the vehicle. He may have been waiting around the tienda for a decent prospect as
many gringos go there, and head out that empty road. Am posting this from a hilltop where I can sometimes receive signal.
Since I have been here for this visit, have heard of 2 break ins in Cabo Pulmo, and one attempt at Tortugas Beach (not sure where that is)
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gnukid
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Let's update this to thwarted waving and flashig lights though certainly it's possible they were thieves. Did you check to see if your license plate
was hanging or if you lost something?
[Edited on 2-8-2013 by gnukid]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Did you check to see if your license plate was hanging or if you lost something? |
You can't be serious. Why would anybody care?
She read it right and did the right thing.
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El Jefe
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A couple of things. The Cabo Del Este off road race is a week from now and will be traveling that route. Could it have been a car pre-running the
course? They will go right by our house too. Lots of them on the road this week.
Second thing. Yes there have been a rash of burgurlaries in the last two weeks. One right here at Terranova, one at 9 Palms and an attempt at La
Tortuga which is near Shipwrecks. All between Pulmo and San Jose along the coast.
So, I don't blame you for being freaked out. But I'm betting it was racers (all the stickers) and they didn't want to pass until you pulled over and
stopped.
Also, we heard that one of the bad guys that stole a car during one of the robberies was caught driving it in San Jose by the cops and was spilling
his guts. Hope the vics all get their stuff back.
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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sancho
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Interesting theory on both the OP's post and gunkid's
POSSIBLE speculation of intention , there was a post recently about a local around Castro's south of Ensenada, showing some BN a good campspot, the BN
thoughts then turned
to 'hope they don't come back to rob me', after which he
realized was small minded, I generally side with the rather
'safe than sorry tact', might be a bit paranoid, hope I don't offend too many Mex Nationals along the way with that
mind set
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
Interesting theory on both the OP's post and gunkid's
POSSIBLE speculation of intention , there was a post recently about a local around Castro's south of Ensenada, showing some BN a good campspot, the BN
thoughts then turned
to 'hope they don't come back to rob me', after which he
realized was small minded, I generally side with the rather
'safe than sorry tact', might be a bit paranoid, hope I don't offend too many Mex Nationals along the way with that
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I seem to remember that Juan Williams got fired by the PBS for claiming similar thoughts about Arabs on airplanes. 
Me, I go with a "better safe than sorry" attitude, under the circumstances. (unless I had a viable weapon, of course) 
In any case, it is scary.
Barry
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Vale Dos Centavos de Mio
It is ridiculous to even begin to assume that it is considered acceptable in Mexican culture for a man never mind two to "intercept" a stranger
ANYWHERE even in the middle of ave Revolucion in Mexico City. To attempt to intercept a lonely gringa on a lonely stretch of roadway goes beyond
anything but the macabre. It just is not done. It just is not acceptable. Period. End Of Discussion.
Report the car as best you can to the authorities. This is important as it's description sounds close to being unique.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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David K
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Well... was it not a 2 lane road... and when you are driving slower than the person behind, don't you pull over so they can pass, at the first
turnout?
Do you hog the road and refuse to allow others to drive by?
What do you do when you meet a car coming towards you, force him to pull off the road (or try and get over just as much as he does?)?
My first thought was something fell out of Volcano's car and they were trying to alert her... did they even know it was a woman?
I am glad she is okay, but perhaps she shouldn't assume that someone trying to pass her is a bandito. I am sure she would have felt better if she
could defend herself, if they were criminals. Quien sabe?
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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A Post Needs To Be Read...
" He kept pace for a mile or so, and gave up"
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Do you hog the road and refuse to allow others to drive by?
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With the aggressivness of Mexican drivers, you can't be pulling over for every one who has his hood ornament shoved up your butt. You would never get
anywhere away from the side of the road.
When I'm doing the speed limit, I hold my ground. I couldn't care less what the guy behind me is late for. All Mexicans are late for something.
THe heaviest traffic in Ensenada is around 8:15 AM. It's a frantic mob trying to get to work at 8:00.
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DianaT
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Volcano,
Sounds like you did the best thing no matter what anyone says. You indicated that they did not take advantage of the chances to pass, so if passing
you was what they wanted to do, well they would have done so. Your intuition is the best path to follow.
There is no reason for anyone to think you are a road hog or drive in a very rude manner. If they found something, they could have left it at the
market for you.
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David K
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It is one thing if it is a paved road and another if dirt. My apologies for presuming it was dirt or just one lane.
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desertcpl
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Well... was it not a 2 lane road... and when you are driving slower than the person behind, don't you pull over so they can pass, at the first
turnout?
Do you hog the road and refuse to allow others to drive by?
What do you do when you meet a car coming towards you, force him to pull off the road (or try and get over just as much as he does?)?
My first thought was something fell out of Volcano's car and they were trying to alert her... did they even know it was a woman?
I am glad she is okay, but perhaps she shouldn't assume that someone trying to pass her is a bandito. I am sure she would have felt better if she
could defend herself, if they were criminals. Quien sabe? |
do you remember Shari account a few years back about some thing like this happening to her and Juan,, she said it sacred the hell out of them
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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highway incidents are very scary indeed....what happened to us was that we were flagged down by 3 guy who were stopped in a pick up...it was just
dark...early evening and something just didnt FEEL right...they said they had a tire problem and asked Juan if he had a
screwdriver...uh...right....they wanted Juan to get out of the truck....he said sorry no tools and pulled away and floored it...he didnt like the
looks of the situation either and sure enough....they pulled a Uturn and came after us....luckily we had a head start and were close to the Asuncion
junction....when we turned down the Asuncion road, they didnt turn after us...whew....guess they didnt have a tire problem after all!
No sense in risking your life and pulling over if it doesnt feel right...and I would try to report the truck just in case so that if it happens to
someone else, there is a report on the books about this vehicle....which may or may not have been trying to do you harm.
I have had cars pull up behind me too and flash their lights and gesture but it was because my back door was open on the trooper....ooops.
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gnukid
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Definitely she did the right thing, never pull over for any crazies chasing you with flashing lights and waving. Only pull over at at a safe place
especially if there are police. Be careful out there.
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bajario
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Had something similar happen a few summers back on the highway I believe just south of that dry lake and sometimes wet one, Chapala(sp?).
Coming north with the wife and my two kids we passed a car on the side of the road with two guys at the rear facing oncoming traffic having a smoke.
I thought this was odd since they weren't giving the impression they were broken down and pulled over to light up.
We made eye contact and I kept on going. Two minutes later they are flying up on my tail which was scary because I move at a decent clip. Now going
throught this area is rather desolate with decent sized rocks on the side of the road. I sped up a little in order to not freak out the wife but she
saw them too and became paniced. This tailgating went on for about a minute and then they just halted at a turnoff/dirt road that I didn't even
notice. Don't know if they saw my kids heads and had a moment or were actually taking this road to nowhere. I'm just glad it ended the way it did.
Glad you had the same ending.
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BajaBlanca
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I am so glad that you posted this story Volcano. Good for us to be on our toes and what a great ending whew !
Our Mexican neighbor got robbed years ago as he left the bank in Ensenada with quite a bit of cash to buy a car .... he cried walking down the
street.
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J.P.
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Anticipated Thugging
Wednesday we were headed to the Border through Tecate. as we were going down the Big Hill A Police Truck fell in behind us I told my other Half watch
out were fixing to get it. He followed us through town to a side street and it happend he hit us with the Red Lights. He approached the vehicle and
asked where we were coming from? I replided Ensenada. He then Asked If we had a House there? I replied yes. He then said thats a Nice Old Jeep. I said
Thanks. He said Have a nice day and went back to his truck.Wheeeeeeeeeew.
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Hook
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So, you allowed this vehicle the opportunity to pass you, right? And, as purveyors of "thuggery", they didnt use this opportunity to cut you off and
stop your car and proceed to commit their "attempted thuggery" ? (whatever that is)
I believe you're guilty of a vivid imagination, especially by concluding that a couple break-ins in the area points to these guys being "thugs".
I'm not saying that fleeing the way you did wasnt the right course. I probably would have done the same. I just doubt that the conclusion you reached
passes muster for a big headline on Nomads. Way too speculative.
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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About fifteen years ago some people in a car tried to flag me down in the wilds of Nayarit. "CABLES!" the man yelled. Jumper cables. "Ni Modo Hombre!"
I floored the pickup. They soon caught up to me. I was driving a diesel. Their headlights got so close I could't see them in the side mirrors. I
slammed on the brakes then felt a terrific crunch. My pickup truck had a 2-ton hydraulic Tommylift platform lift gate. I accelerated away. It must
have broken their headlights as it was black back there.
Later on in Morelia it cost me almost a hundred dollars to get the Tommylift brackets straightened and repaired.
Sure cured me of the idea I was "experienced enough" to drive at night.
COPS GO HOME AT NIGHT. ALL OF THEM
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