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| DianaT 
 
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 Dense, simply dense.
   
 
 
 
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| David K 
 
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 Liberals always stoop to name calling when they get frustrated... I am sorry you like to single me out Diana, but I just gave you what you couldn't
find or needed me to provide... It was so obvious it was a post on Wiki, with the footnote tabs, I didn't dream you couldn't see it wasn't my personal
information ... so, you're welcome.
   
 
 
 
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| DianaT 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by David K Liberals always stoop to name calling when they get frustrated... I am sorry you like to single me out Diana, but I just gave you what you couldn't
find or needed me to provide... It was so obvious it was a post on Wiki, with the footnote tabs, I didn't dream you couldn't see it wasn't my personal
information ... so, you're welcome.
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 Frustrated?  No.  And of course it was easy to see that it was NOT your writing and VERY easy to trace the source.  A simple google of the first line
led to Wikipedia.
 
 It is a matter of honesty, and especially important for someone who thinks of one's self as a "researcher" of any type.  IF one quotes the work of
others, they reference it or it becomes plagiarism.
 
 This is not a liberal or a conservative idea, nor is it a liberal or conservative idea that Wikipedia is a starting point and needs to be crossed
referenced and fact checked in many ways.
 
 
 
 
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| David K 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by DianaT 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by David K Liberals always stoop to name calling when they get frustrated... I am sorry you like to single me out Diana, but I just gave you what you couldn't
find or needed me to provide... It was so obvious it was a post on Wiki, with the footnote tabs, I didn't dream you couldn't see it wasn't my personal
information ... so, you're welcome.
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 Frustrated?  No.  And of course it was easy to see that it was NOT your writing and VERY easy to trace the source.  A simple google of the first line
led to Wikipedia.
 
 It is a matter of honesty, and especially important for someone who thinks of one's self as a "researcher" of any type.  IF one quotes the work of
others, they reference it or it becomes plagiarism.
 
 This is not a liberal or a conservative idea, nor is it a liberal or conservative idea that Wikipedia is a starting point and needs to be crossed
referenced and fact checked in many ways.
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 Yes, and to me proving Chavez is a dictator or that Citgo (not Valero) is a Venezuelan owned company is just NOT THAT IMPORTANT to me to put any
effort more than I did... This is a discussion forum not a reference book... As you can see, I am more than happy to provide my sources and never make
something look like it is my writing, if it isn't.
 
 
 
 
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| grizzlyfsh95 
 
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 Sean Penn must be heartbroken now that his pet latin is room temperature. He can comiserate with Rodman.
 
 
 
 
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| Bajaboy 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by David K 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by DianaT 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by David K Liberals always stoop to name calling when they get frustrated... I am sorry you like to single me out Diana, but I just gave you what you couldn't
find or needed me to provide... It was so obvious it was a post on Wiki, with the footnote tabs, I didn't dream you couldn't see it wasn't my personal
information ... so, you're welcome.
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 Frustrated?  No.  And of course it was easy to see that it was NOT your writing and VERY easy to trace the source.  A simple google of the first line
led to Wikipedia.
 
 It is a matter of honesty, and especially important for someone who thinks of one's self as a "researcher" of any type.  IF one quotes the work of
others, they reference it or it becomes plagiarism.
 
 This is not a liberal or a conservative idea, nor is it a liberal or conservative idea that Wikipedia is a starting point and needs to be crossed
referenced and fact checked in many ways.
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 Yes, and to me proving Chavez is a dictator
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 There you go again...trying to sound like Hannity.....claiming something as fact which in reality is a flat our lie....Chavez was not a dictator.  He
was elected by the people of his country.
 
 
 
 
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| rts551 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by David K 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by DianaT 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by David K Liberals always stoop to name calling when they get frustrated... I am sorry you like to single me out Diana, but I just gave you what you couldn't
find or needed me to provide... It was so obvious it was a post on Wiki, with the footnote tabs, I didn't dream you couldn't see it wasn't my personal
information ... so, you're welcome.
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 Frustrated?  No.  And of course it was easy to see that it was NOT your writing and VERY easy to trace the source.  A simple google of the first line
led to Wikipedia.
 
 It is a matter of honesty, and especially important for someone who thinks of one's self as a "researcher" of any type.  IF one quotes the work of
others, they reference it or it becomes plagiarism.
 
 This is not a liberal or a conservative idea, nor is it a liberal or conservative idea that Wikipedia is a starting point and needs to be crossed
referenced and fact checked in many ways.
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 Yes, and to me proving Chavez is a dictator or that Citgo (not Valero) is a Venezuelan owned company is just NOT THAT IMPORTANT to me to put any
effort more than I did... This is a discussion forum not a reference book... As you can see, I am more than happy to provide my sources and never make
something look like it is my writing, if it isn't.
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 Ar rhe risk of declaring I am picking on you again....This is for everyone (including me).  Current copyright laws apply to discussion forums on the
internet.  Posted works by others are automatically protected (but not necessarily copyrighted) the way I read it.
 
 http://mason.gmu.edu/~montecin/copyright-internet.htm
 
 http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
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| Lee 
 
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 I liked it when Chavez called George W. ''the devil'' at the UN in '06.     That's GW.     I could have a drink with either of them, though.
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| David K 
 
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 Yah, I am guilty of spreading information... my bad. Too much information would have caused us to have a good president now, and no sequestration BS.
The Low Information voters won, and America lost.
 
 
 
 
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| SFandH 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by David K Yah, I am guilty of spreading information... my bad. Too much information would have caused us to have a good president now, and no sequestration BS.
The Low Information voters won, and America lost.
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 Thanks for your political opinion. Take it off-topic.
 
 This thread is about Hugo Chavez.
 
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| David K 
 
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 Talk to Ralph, I was done talking about Venezuela's dictator.
 
 
 
 
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| luv2fish 
 
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 Hold on boys and girls, let me run for some popcorn, this is getting interesting.
     Oh and while I'm gone please remain in the sandbox............ 
 
 
 
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| Islandbuilder 
 
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 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-09/chavez-s-win-proves...
 
 www.amnesty.org/en/region/venezuela/report-2012
 
 Interesting reads.
 
 
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| mtgoat666 
 
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by David K Yah, I am guilty of spreading information... my bad. Too much information would have caused us to have a good president now, and no sequestration BS.
The Low Information voters won, and America lost.
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 Rmoney sure spread lots of useful information in his attempt to woo voters!  His key talking points were "I won't tell you my policy ideas until after
you elect me," and "47% of Americans are worthless moochers that I don't care about." Great info!  Sure made the choice easy!
 
   
 Contrast Rmoney with Chavez, Chavez rattled off information and ideas non-stop, in endless speeches, and he never called the poor worthless moochers. 
Seems like Chavez had a bit more personality and charisma than Rmoney.
 
 Chavez certainly had populist appeal, perhaps GOP could take some lessons from Chavez, eh?
 
 p.s. I did not agree with Chavez, but I certainly understood his appeal to his majority
 
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| comitan 
 
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 He gave the people $.16 gal. gas the cheapest in the whole wide world, now you know how to become president.
      
 
 
 
 Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
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| Barry A. 
 
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 posted by rts---------"This is for everyone (including me). Current copyright laws apply to discussion forums on the internet. Posted works by others
are automatically protected (but not necessarily copyrighted) the way I read it.
 
 http://mason.gmu.edu/~montecin/copyright-internet.htm
 
 http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
 
 
 Wow, thank you.  I was totally not aware of that------I always thought that something posted on a public forum was fare game to post elsewhere on a
public forum------never knew about having to declare your source.  Thank you.
 
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| bajadogs 
 
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 David,
 Your posts here are so offensive and here is why. I can't respond to them because this is not OFF-TOPIC and you think you are too good for OFF-TOPIC.
You are like your mentor Hannity when he cuts the mic off an an informed caller who calls him out on his BS. If you are going to tell me that my
political beliefs are ruining America go OFF-TOPIC. And speaking of name calling, you just called me a "LOW Information Voter". Again I would love to
prove otherwise but you won't let anyone. Kinda like a dictator.
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 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by mtgoat666 
 | Quote: |  | Originally posted by David K Yah, I am guilty of spreading information... my bad. Too much information would have caused us to have a good president now, and no sequestration BS.
The Low Information voters won, and America lost.
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 Rmoney sure spread lots of useful information in his attempt to woo voters!  His key talking points were "I won't tell you my policy ideas until after
you elect me," and "47% of Americans are worthless moochers that I don't care about." Great info!  Sure made the choice easy!
 
   
 Contrast Rmoney with Chavez, Chavez rattled off information and ideas non-stop, in endless speeches, and he never called the poor worthless moochers. 
Seems like Chavez had a bit more personality and charisma than Rmoney.
 
 Chavez certainly had populist appeal, perhaps GOP could take some lessons from Chavez, eh?
 
 p.s. I did not agree with Chavez, but I certainly understood his appeal to his majority
 
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 I will go along with this,, Chavez was vary popular in his country, I wonder why,, the poor have been abused and miss treated for years at the hands
of the wealthy,
 and no I didnt really like some of his antics, I thought that was a bit off the wall, but bottom line it worked for him
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| mulegemichael 
 
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 it's just a challenge to even comment on this at this point...please, y'all, try not to go to the dark place...there is such a defined, stark,
black/white difference between us all that there will never be piece...or peace...i, on one hand, hate your philosophy on life, dk, but on the other
hand, i hate what you stand for also....so...liberal or conservative, saviour or buttcrack, we can all get along, can't we?
 
 
 
 
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| liknbaja127 
 
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 Dave, for what it's worth, I like your posts! good info.
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