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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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CFE - Hang On To Your Shorts
Serious discussions are underway in México to adjust the tarifas para la luz. The emergence of El Parque Jurassic, in Los Pinos means the hogs are
storming the trough once again (Raul Salinas: That one hundred eighty seven million dollars in Swiss banks accounts is mine - and all due to shrewd
investments)
Take your Cuenta bimestral. On the left side, find COSTO de GENERACION. Well guess what, if the compys and velociraptors have their way the CFE is
going to make THAT figure your bill. Every last centavo.
It's justified! It's SUBSIDIZED. La Republica has to buy crude oil. Do you know how many billions of dollars it took to establish transformer
manufacturing facilities near Monterrey that supply all of north and central America? And the wages! Why shouldn't Mexican electricity cost more than
power in the USA? The overhead is unimaginable.
But but but but, they CARE! If your bill is under 150 kWh a month, the rate will stay the same, Isn't THAT nice?
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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msteve1014
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Take a tramadol, take two. Tranquillo.
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monoloco
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I'm good, unless they raise the tarifa on sunshine.
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rts551
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me thinks your shorts are in bunch....someone give you a wedgie?
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Wait till the 3,000 peso bills start rolling in he he he he he.
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Udo
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150 KWH per month?
A refrigerator uses more than half of that.
Once we move to BA, I was hoping that we could stay below 350KVH.
When we come by on June, we are changing what bulbs we can to LED.
Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
But but but but, they CARE! If your bill is under 150 kWh a month, the rate will stay the same, Isn't THAT nice? |
Udo
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msteve1014
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It won't matter udo, David keeps predicting the end of the world, Asuncion first, no doubt.
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Wait till the 3,000 peso bills start rolling in he he he he he. |
Another step closer to a revolution.
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msteve1014
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Yeah, all the gringos on S.S. will jump up and run for home.
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Udo
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If global warming raises the sea level by two inches in the next 5 years, BA still has another 78" of cliffside to go, before the sea reaches the top.
Probably about another 300 years.
Shari and Juan's house should be safe longer than that, their place is about 20' above water level, plus they have a rock cliff below them.
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It won't matter Udo, David keeps predicting the end of the world, Asuncion first, no doubt. |
[Edited on 6-6-2013 by Udo]
Udo
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chuckie
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And they have a stepladder...
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Last bill 173 kWh, COSTO de PRODUCCION 768 pesos.
Every time in the past that the price of gasoline and power jumped, the peso grew a lot weaker afterwards. I wonder if this is going to be the case
this time?
The guessing game used to be a lot easier before the USA started weakening the dollar. I don't like it when a currency war starts. There is too much
poverty as it is in Mexico. To see ultra wealthy exploit it is difficult for me. I think the base issue is the finances of CFE and, Petroleos
Mexicanos are not transparent. Too many ultra wealthy Mexicanos are using both as cash cows. For them to "keep even" with the value of the Euro is a
little hard for the poor to stomach.
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Bajatripper
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Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Why shouldn't Mexican electricity cost more than power in the USA? The overhead is unimaginable.
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When I use to keep up with issues such as this, I recall reading of plans to build as much electrical generating stuff as possible in Mexico but
within easy reach of the US grid precisely so that they could sell "excess" energy to the US. The bottom line of this arrangement is that the energy
would be sold to the highest bidder, so Mexican consumers would be made to compete against the US market. Another thing of note in this arrangement:
this would also effectively transfer some of the regional US energy production to Mexico, where environmental laws are...well..more lax. Of course,
the concern of some was that, while the plants would have been located in Mexico, the air currents don't respect international boundaries so much.
But investor shares would look good, no doubt.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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I'd hate to think USA energy speculation windfalls end up coming out of the pocket of destitute Mexicanos.
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BajaBlanca
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big electric bills are NO fun as we found out the first time we completed one full year in Baja.
Now we too have sunshine as our best ally!
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chuckie
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Big electric bills are the product of using a lot of electricity! Comprende?
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capt. mike
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CFE is embarking on a big solar push that will help all Mexicans via incentives to grid tie - unheard of before - now they "get it". they can't sell
to USA cause they cannot compete with Nuclear power - no one can. Palo Verde the world's largets reactor by Phx sells most of its production to CA and
the rest goes to Az APS. the production sales to CA are at 2-3 cents per KWh. Most solar PPAs in AZ go for 10 cents at least. Locked for 20 years.
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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monoloco
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Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
CFE is embarking on a big solar push that will help all Mexicans via incentives to grid tie - unheard of before - now they "get it". they can't sell
to USA cause they cannot compete with Nuclear power - no one can. Palo Verde the world's largets reactor by Phx sells most of its production to CA and
the rest goes to Az APS. the production sales to CA are at 2-3 cents per KWh. Most solar PPAs in AZ go for 10 cents at least. Locked for 20 years.
| That's because nuke power is heavily subsidized by the government.
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chuckie
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HUH? Where are there any Nuclear power plants being built in the US?
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durrelllrobert
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Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Wait till the 3,000 peso bills start rolling in he he he he he. | Wait my a*s. Mine have always been in that
range because of the DAC rate that is higher than the highest of the graduated rates.
Bob Durrell
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