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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by weebray
..... The people of Triunfo are predominantly not in favor of it. There are protests being planned as we speak. |
That, and only that is what matters. It should matter not at all as to what any visitor or ex-pat wants. Some towns or cities may want an OXXO, and
that would be their choice.
And they do not need to be told what is best for them --- not only do they really resent it, then some who read English will read things on forums
like, "slowly but surely, we are teaching them about _______ and they are learning and progressing" (Fill in the blank. ) and some wonder why they are
so disliked by the locals?
| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
For old Mexican ways I'll drive my PU onto the beach, set up camp, build a campfire, and drink some beers with friends while we gaze into the fire.
All of which are illegal in San Diego and most all of the US. |
Driving your truck on the beach is also illegal in Mexico, it is just not enforced in very many places in Baja. Many locals I know would like to
see it enforced, but there are also many who do NOT want to see it enforced.
The benefits or no benefits of an OXXO, or whether driving on the beach should or should not be allowed, can be debated endlessly by a bunch of
gringos, but....................
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by weebray
They are there to sell COKE and contribute to the obesity of the nation. |
actually, they are there to sell coke, and they dont care about or even consider the consequential poor nutrition or obesity.
like drug dealers, oxxo and 7-11 (and coca cola company) don't think about their affect on society, nor do they care if their customers die from
eating their goods (plus, these are slow acting diseases, so the customer life span is sufficiently long). and they know another bumpkin will be
along to replace any customer that dies of diabetes. these companies measure success or failure only in terms of money.
i would not mind an oxxo in a historic neighborhood, if they followed an architectural guideline consistent with the location, and if they toned down
their monstrous color scheme on front of building and sign banners.
perhaps they can set up shop in one of the quaint old buildings, eh? 
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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The "disappointments" aesthetics, and ringworm on Mona Lisa's posterior has barely started. How about a McDonald's on the rim of the Canyon in
Divisadero? Or a Starbucks downtown San Cristobal de Las Casas, maybe near the mercado central?
In 2001, mind you, twelve years ago in Tecate, a McDonalds opened up. The gente lined up ALL THE WAY ROUND A VERY BIG BLOCK to be able to purchase a
Big Mac and fries at a price that is (still) around 20% more in dollar cost than a McDonalds in the USA. Yeah I did - I drove round that block twice.
The people were excited, and jocular their very own McDonalds.
Even though I disapprove of some things down here I keep it entirely to myself. I give no clue whatsoever to the gente.
Do you?
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weebray
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I like OXXOs though.
What part of "I don't care what you think about oxxo" didn't you understand?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
There's a location in Ensenada where you can see THREE OXXO'S in your line of sight there is one directly across the street from another.
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They must have copied the zoning in Tucson....no more than three blocks between Circle K stores.
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watch the hole
| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Now, the important stuff: We do have 7-11'a up here in the frozen wastelands....it would be great to have a few Oxxo's....just so I could get some
lime-flavoUred peanuts
[Edited on 9-23-2013 by motoged] |
When I was in Kandahar Afg they had a Canadian Donut shop(Horton?)...very popular We really like looking through Baja markets to see what is
different that we might like. Most trips we come back with cans of something to try or do kitchen 'experiments'...part of the fun of Baja.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EdZeranski
| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Now, the important stuff: We do have 7-11'a up here in the frozen wastelands....it would be great to have a few Oxxo's....just so I could get some
lime-flavoUred peanuts
[Edited on 9-23-2013 by motoged] |
When I was in Kandahar Afg they had a Canadian Donut shop(Horton?)...very popular We really like looking through Baja markets to see what is
different that we might like. Most trips we come back with cans of something to try or do kitchen 'experiments'...part of the fun of Baja.
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Yea, that would be Tim Hortons eh.
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Tim Horton
Wal-mart sell some of his stuff in the frozen food section - breakfasts
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motoged
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Tim Horton was a famous Canadian hockey player some years ago....he started a coffee-donut chain that is VERY popular in Canada....their franchises
have infected our landscape and , for the life of me, I don't understand why people line up for their coffee (supplied by the same folks who supply
coffee to Mc Donalds in Canada....as told to me by a McD's manager.....although I like McD's regular coffee).
A few years ago Tim Horton's was "amalgamated/bought ??? by Wendy's burger joint and there were great hopes TH would take the USA by storm.
Well, it hasn't and Wendy's is going downhill with their cheeky new redhead Wendy wannabe.
An Oxxo in a small"quaint" town is like a McD's /7-11 in_________________ (fill in the blank)
Some love ....some don't.
P.S Tim Horton donuts are smaller than they used to be and are mass-produced in distant kitchen instead of the back of each TH's....quality control
at its best.....eh?!
Don't believe everything you think....
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DavidE
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Then the franchisee is ska-rewed. Ain't capitalism wunderfill?
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bajagrouper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
P.S Tim Horton donuts are smaller than they used to be and are mass-produced in distant kitchen instead of the back of each TH's....quality control
at its best.....eh?! |
Maybe the size of a hockey puck?
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
P.S Tim Horton donuts are smaller than they used to be and are mass-produced in distant kitchen instead of the back of each TH's....quality control
at its best.....eh?! |
Maybe that is true in Kamloops, BC but certainly untrue in Edmonton. The Corp. that my wife's daughter is part of has 7 francises there and all of the
baked goods are made fresh everyday in all but the one in the West Edmonton Mall and that's only because they are not allowed to have a kitchen there.
Also, Conventional wisdom might have forecast a national revolt after Canadian icon Tim Hortons was bought out by our neighbours to the south. But
instead, the donut chain boomed across the country. While efforts to expand Tim's to the U.S. yielded mixed results, joint Tim Hortons/Wendy's
locations began to pop up across Canada at a time when Tim’s headed into a phase of monumental growth. In 1995, Tim Hortons, which still operated as
its own entity while under the Wendy's banner, had 1,000 stores; today, there are more than 4,500. Mount Royal University's David Finch agrees the Tim
Hortons/Wendy's merger was a rousing success. However, the relationship would not last. Wendy's sold its stake in Tim Hortons, and in 2009 the
donut chain was repatriated as a Canadian public company THX on the NYSE.
As of June 30th, 2013, Tim Hortons had 4,304 system-wide restaurants, including 3,468 in Canada, 807 in the United States and 29 in the Gulf
Cooperation Council.
[Edited on 9-26-2013 by durrelllrobert]
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David K
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Gee, makes me want to try it, just to see what the fuss is all about (a-boot), eh?
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Tim Hortons locations can presently be found in Michigan, Maine, Connecticut, Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Massachusetts
and New York, with responsible expansion continuing in these core markets.
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
P.S Tim Horton donuts are smaller than they used to be and are mass-produced in distant kitchen instead of the back of each TH's....quality control
at its best.....eh?! |
This from their web site:
Tim Hortons donuts and baked goods are prepared at our bakery in Brantford, Ontario, Canada. Prior to serving, they are baked and finished (with
fillings and/or glazes/icings) at your neighborhood Tim Hortons restaurant. Staff can bake in small batches throughout the day, so that guests should
find their favorite products on the shelf more often. We believe this baking system offers our guests the best product, each and every time.
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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whatever one thinks about the products available at OXXO's (and they are simply more numerous than the colas and chips and peanuts sold by the mom and
pop stores) it is great to have clean, well maintained bathrooms available wherever they spring up. less toilet paper strewn highways?
as to competition, small or otherwise stores will adapt or die. it's kinda nice here in Loreto now...Ley's moved in, the only other large grocery in
town has cleaned up/reorganized, and sales people actually greet and smile at customers. the other day at in another well known grocery store in
town, owner came over to shake my hand when I walked in.
our gringo input on the matter of what store where is irrelevant...
reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rhintransit
whatever one thinks about the products available at OXXO's (and they are simply more numerous than the colas and chips and peanuts sold by the mom and
pop stores) it is great to have clean, well maintained bathrooms available wherever they spring up. less toilet paper strewn highways?
as to competition, small or otherwise stores will adapt or die. it's kinda nice here in Loreto now...Ley's moved in, the only other large grocery in
town has cleaned up/reorganized, and sales people actually greet and smile at customers. the other day at in another well known grocery store in
town, owner came over to shake my hand when I walked in.
our gringo input on the matter of what store where is irrelevant... |
Right on... the consumer should win, and the free market benefits all... the public bathrooms are an interesting twist I hadn't considered... healthy
for the environment!
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Snotty businesses are hard to endure anywhere. Want S-N-O-T?
The gasolinera in Sta Rosalia years ago.
They greeted you with a sneer. Worse than a 1989 Home Club or 2006 Home Despot.
Want a bad day. Get processed through the thieving PJF Puesto de Control at the entroque transpninsular in Sn Ignacio, and then have to run the
gauntlet at the gasolinera in Sta Rosalia.
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OXXO Benefit
I can pay my Telnor bill there without having to drive into town to the Telnor office
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DavidE
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Just wait'll you need to decide
The Oxxo
or
Squat
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