Originally posted by Cypress
Mountain Lion attacks occur in areas where hunting them is illegal, they lose their fear of humans. Unarmed humans are easy prey.
I have hiked and driven all over the southwest states backcountry for many decades and have never seen a mountain lion. Here in Lytle Creek in the
last year one got his/her picture taker by a motion triggered camera in a backyard and one ate a large dog.
I am sure they have seen me somewhere, sometime, but I guess I don't look very tasty. I hope to keep it that way. Meanwhile, I still hike - just
slower now. (83 and counting, taste old and moldy).
Neal
My motto:
Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
I have had three sightings of the same species of wild cat in the last three months here on the East Cape, all in different locations and far from
each other. Having seen numerous gato montes, (bobcats), in this area, and a few mountain lions in the Sierra Nevada, it was neither. These cats had a
smaller build than a lion, larger than a bobcat. Longer legs and taller than a bobcat, but with a face more like a bobcat than a lion. All three cats
had a long tail with black rings around it, (these critters were not even close to ringtail cats which I've seen plenty). Talking with local ranchers
in the area, they say it could be a "tigrillo". I've tried to research and identify this animal online without luck. Curious to see if anybody has
seen or knows of this cat? The only thing I can figure is they were adolescent lions, but not very likely considering how cagey and difficult it is to
see mountain lions in the wild, (although they see you).
Originally posted by Cancamo
I have had three sightings of the same species of wild cat in the last three months here on the East Cape, all in different locations and far from
each other. Having seen numerous gato montes, (bobcats), in this area, and a few mountain lions in the Sierra Nevada, it was neither. These cats had a
smaller build than a lion, larger than a bobcat. Longer legs and taller than a bobcat, but with a face more like a bobcat than a lion. All three cats
had a long tail with black rings around it, (these critters were not even close to ringtail cats which I've seen plenty). Talking with local ranchers
in the area, they say it could be a "tigrillo". I've tried to research and identify this animal online without luck. Curious to see if anybody has
seen or knows of this cat? The only thing I can figure is they were adolescent lions, but not very likely considering how cagey and difficult it is to
see mountain lions in the wild,
(although they see you).
Could it be a Jaguarundi....they are about the right size but not sure about the ringed tail. If you Google the name you can find pics, etc.
The Serria La Laguna has Many cats and no people (thank god) its between La Ribeya and on the east is Todo Santo's ..30 miles north of Cabo you can
have Snow !!..I think The highest is over 7K feet .....folks just don't seem to get this simple fact!!
Originally posted by Cancamo
I have had three sightings of the same species of wild cat in the last three months here on the East Cape, all in different locations and far from
each other. Having seen numerous gato montes, (bobcats), in this area, and a few mountain lions in the Sierra Nevada, it was neither. These cats had a
smaller build than a lion, larger than a bobcat. Longer legs and taller than a bobcat, but with a face more like a bobcat than a lion. All three cats
had a long tail with black rings around it, (these critters were not even close to ringtail cats which I've seen plenty). Talking with local ranchers
in the area, they say it could be a "tigrillo". I've tried to research and identify this animal online without luck. Curious to see if anybody has
seen or knows of this cat? The only thing I can figure is they were adolescent lions, but not very likely considering how cagey and difficult it is to
see mountain lions in the wild,
(although they see you).
Could it be a Jaguarundi....they are about the right size but not sure about the ringed tail. If you Google the name you can find pics, etc.
Posted about a years ago after someone claimed to see one in Baja:
Because I think this is very important for Nomads to know, I will post these clips here, as I did before in my petroglyph thread that Saltram
mentioned jaguarundis in... I would enjoy seeing some photos that prove they are in Baja! What a cool cat!
Hola,,They are in Baja..I've seen two and many prints up in the Serria La Laguna..west of Santiago bcs... where there used to be bear..there is still
boar and am told deer up in the pines....
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
Read an account a few yrs. back, a Turkey Hunter
somewhere in Ca., comoed up, hidden, calling
in turkeys. Someone else was listening to the calls,
heard a sound behind him, turned around to see
Sr. Gato in full attack 3 ' away, the cat realized it wasn't
a turkey, bounced of the guy and took off
Okey Dokey - I Didn't Edit or Criticize the Poster's Description
But, it is a fact that no one really knows exactly how the cats evolved or what particular species they are descended from and, especially, what their
range of habitat is.
"The jaguarundi (Puma yagouaroundi syn. Herpailurus yagouaroundi), also called eyra cat, is a small-sized wild cat native to Central and South
America. In 2002, the IUCN classified the jaguarundi as 'Least Concern', although they considered it likely that no conservation units beyond the
megareserves of the Amazon basin could sustain long-term viable populations. Its presence in Uruguay is uncertain.
In some Spanish-speaking countries, the jaguarundi is also called gato colorado, gato moro, león brenero, onza, tigrillo, and leoncillo.
It is also called gato-mourisco, eirá, gato-preto, and maracajá-preto in Portuguese. Jaguarundi comes from Old Tupi yawaum'di.
The jaguarundi is found from southern Texas and coastal Mexico in the north, through Central and South America east of the Andes, and as far south as
northern Argentina. Its habitat is lowland brush areas close to a source of running water, and may include any habitat from dry thorn forest to wet
grassland. While commonly found in the lowlands, they have been reported at elevations as high as 3,200 m (10,500 ft).[5] Jaguarundis also
occasionally inhabit dense tropical areas.
Jaguarundis have also been sighted in the US state of Florida since the early 20th century. Here, the species is thought to have been introduced, but
it is not known when the introduction occurred. Their presence in Florida is said to have been the work of a writer who at some point imported the
animals from their native habitat and released them near his hometown of Chiefland and in other locations across the state. No live or dead specimens
have been found, but there have been many sightings considered credible by biologists. The earliest of these occurred in 1907, and was followed by
various additional sightings throughout the Florida Peninsula from the 1930s through the 1950s. The first official report was released in 1942.
Significantly fewer reliable sightings were reported after that, and by 1977 W. T. Neill concluded the population had declined; however, sightings
have continued. Sightings of jaguarundis in the coastal area of Alabama also have been made. This may be evidence of the Florida population migrating
northward.
The jaguarundi has also been sighted around the Guiana Space Centre in French Guiana."
[Edited on 1-22-2014 by Gypsy Jan]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
In 1996, I was flying a helicopter in Orange County West of Interstate 5 in the foothills of the coastal range just north of San Juan Capistrano low
and slow for a search. This is open land but surrounded by allot of people and cars. I saw a man jogging on a trail and just as I looked at the man
a lion crossed perpendicular to the trail a short distance behind the runner. Maybe 20 feet. The runner never knew the lion was there. I guess the
lion was moving away from the helo noise.
A few years later, I saw a report of a woman running near this place and was attacked by a lion and if I remember right, she was killed. The lion
attacked her from the rear and at the neck area.
There must be many more close calls like this, and also with snakes that people never know are nearby.
Yep,,I recall that,,,sad,,but I as posted in the start of this,, they will almost be so close to you and you will not know it...even with a
dog...happens every day !! if they are going to attack,, most time will be from behind and from up high,,and to the neck,,awesome critter..The North
"Los Padres Nat Forest" has the highest count of them in the USA and I'm glad to spend time with them in that area!! worried no,,not for myself,,my
dogs,,yes,,but we go there as much as we can...they really don't want to deal with homo sapiens....cant blame them!! I have seen a few in BCS
..stealth..strong..fast..mean..but are a videl part of this spinning rock !! NOW Bears are whole diff story and boars are the meanest sum b-tches
around...!!!
just saw the vid about the jaugernuts...that's nothing compared to the cats I've seen..small,,weak and not much of a jaw/teeth as the cats roaming
calif. and BCS mountains...Ive seen botcats and ocelots way up north and they a small and not scarey as a M.L. ...muy peligrosso gatos...LOL..Hola
Eha...
over 20 yrs as a park ranger in really remote areas of the n.w. and only 2 sightings of big cats...but they continue to regularly eat housecats and
small dogs in our neighboring town of port angeles, which backs right up to olympic national park....we had a cougar kill last summer on a great big
blacktail doe within sight of our deck in our neighbors backyard....killed and ate the guts out one night, drug it 50 feet and tried to cover it with
brush and took off....i warned my little granddaughters the next morning that they might be breakfast....kinda scary, really....lots and lots of big
cats on the olympic peninsula.
Originally posted by bajaguy
Was the Toyabee burger stand and the Owl Club open then???
Quote:
Originally posted by bacquito
Quote:
Originally posted by DavidE
A simple stout five foot walking stick surprised the hell out of me in the Reese River Valley area of Nevada. A full grown cat growled at me from
about thirty feet away. It was standing on a man-high boulder. It was bristling. Afterwards thinking about things, this happened in April. Maybe the
cat was a lioness and she had kittens. Anyway I yelled, and the cat only lowered its ears. I raised my left arm and shook my fist to no effect. But
when I raised my walking stick and waved it in the air the lion jumped off the rock and disappeared. I returned the way I came. Maybe it was a she and
she had kittens. Who knows.
David, attended the U of Nevada '67-69 and did my graduate work at the Reese River Experimental Station. The "city of Austin" was something else! I
have alot of fond memories.
David
I remember the International Hotel as the popular spot ran by a guy named Swede, Ed Vigus merchantile store, other bars. a Texico Gas station. There
were about 200 people living there at that time. I entered Northumperland Caves, climbed around Diana's Punch Bowl. There was a fossil of a
prehistoric fish in the mountains. Interesting place to hike.
Fond memories!!
"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen.
The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back
if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
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