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alacran
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I agree that any spray, that helps you survive, is ok.
However I know that ammonia water, in a spray bottle, at 10, 15 feet will stop anyone, when in the face or close up.
It also is a great window cleaner, wasp sting, and ray sting aid. And legal.
Pick your option.
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alacran
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I agree that any spray, that helps you survive, is ok.
However I know that ammonia water, in a spray bottle, at 10, 15 feet will stop anyone, when in the face or close up.
It also is a great window cleaner, wasp sting, and ray sting aid. And legal.
Pick your option.
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Cliffy
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Captkw- Yes I have been to Alaska, and I do understand your preference for bear spray, really nasty stuff if you get hit with it. I am also in
agreement with Terry that 20 feet is too close BUT situations usually happen inside that range before one realizes that a threat exists. Per LAPD,
most gun fights are 15 yards and less than 30 seconds. 15 yards with a knife is less than 5 seconds out. That's why my training was 2 center mass at
15 yds from concealed carry in 2 seconds or less. It can be done with time to spare.
I would always give deference to a higher form of deterrent than wasp spray but given that unless one pre plans and gets good bear spray and if one
wants to cross a border with it then wasp spray (available most everywhere) will work. Not as good as bear spray (as you point out) but enough to get
away.
I view concealed carry the same way, I MAY cc a 22 wheel gun with no speed loader but I'm not out to stop a bank robbery either. I'll make a lot of
noise in the right direction and get the hell out of there.
BTW, you need to try Africa for things that bite, been there 5 times and going back for more. Bear spray be damned there, you need to carry real
firepower. :-) :-)
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captkw
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Cliffy,,Hola
A 22LR is so missed under rated for its jumps around once it enters !! But not with major stopping power !! I have no time with wasp spray !! I do
have time with bear spray...and I'm more than Impressed !! the crap works well if no heavy wind !! I don't know the right answer about this,,but if
you go and buy some REAL bear spray you have a Damn good tool in your corner !! and thanx for taking the time to respond !! I don't think that you
will find anyone,,person,,L.E. in bear area's that would carry wasp spray over bear spray to protect ,family ,,kids!!! its not even in the same
book!!! Bear spray is made to stop a bear !!! and it does a good job !! LIKE crazy stuff !! tell ya what........buy some bear spray and you yourself
compare the two....then come back here and tell me/us what you found !!!!
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alacran
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The key words are: effective and legal.
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jimgrms
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Just saying ,i have been bitten or stung by wasp After i sprayed them,
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captkw
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jimgrim
Hola,,there is a saying in Alaska..."don't shoot a bear with a 38. your just gonna pee him off!!"
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