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Ribbonslinger
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Why are there so many places for sale is Posada (Conception Bay)
We bought a place in Mulege in March. Love the town great place. Friends of ours are interested in the area. Notice there are a LOT of places for
sale in Posada. Anybody know why?
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Barry A.
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I will take a guess----------Owners are getting old?
Barry
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Robinhood
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Part of the answer - HOA fees.
Somebody from Posada can chime in here but I believe the annual fees to live in Posada run around five grand a year with services (water and power)
only provided six months (eight- thank you Roundtuit) out of twelve.
Posada is a lovely secure community run pretty tightly but everybody wants something a little different and Mulege Properties can provide a selection
to suit all desires.
Here is a selection of homes available with little or no fees:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=73369
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=73163
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=73139
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=73158
Mulege Properties has a large selection of properties available so we would love to have your friends stop in and see what is available.
P.S. of course if your friends stop in the office they will get to try Mago's Bakery newest ice-cream flavor.
[Edited on 4-27-2014 by Robinhood]
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movinguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
I will take a guess----------Owners are getting old?
Barry |
I was just in Punta Chivato and a guy there told me the same thing - owners getting older and the next generation isn't interested . . .
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I have friends who live in Posada and they love it. It is a little too tight and restricted for me but for those who like it they have nothing but
rave reviews for living there. They truck in water and use a generator to supply electricity. It is the same old story. Check out a place, rent if
possible for a little while, and decide if that is what you are looking for. I have had some of the best experiences of my life in Baja but I have
also had some of the very worst. It took me awhile to find what I wanted, but it was worth it.
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absinvestor
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I agree with Robinhood- ie high hoa fees. Most people can't take the summer heat and leave just before Easter and don't return until Oct. (Also as
mentioned they only run the generator for about 1-2 the year.) Pretty expensive for most part-timers. We ended up buying a "for sale by owner" at El
Burro but did look at some properties with Mulege Properties. We found Robin to be helpful and straight forward. If he didn't know an answer he
researched it.. He was great at returning calls and didn't sugar coat anything which we appreciated. Personally I would trust Robin and give him a
chance to earn your friend's business.
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chuckie
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Second that...I have known Robin for a LONG time , he's a straight shooter..
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moonraker1
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Robin
Yes, I have known Robin and Mago for a couple of years. He is a real estate man, but he is one of the most honest I have met. He would prejudice a
sale rather than mislead you. In Posada, you only own the building, not the dirt. That is a problem with most developments on Baja. The Orchard is
one of the few places to buy a home and own the dirt.
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Robinhood
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Thank you for your kind words....It is a tough and emotional business but I love it when a deal comes together
It is true that I err on the side of caution in brokering properties down here because I live in Mulege and will always live here. It is true that
many people can buy or sell properties via word of mouth but I am here everyday to maintain the listings, broker the deals, clean up the problems
(literally and figuratively), and quite often fix problems long before they start.
I provide a service that is helpful and makes buyers/sellers lives a little easier. It's a little like delivering a baby or re-wiring your house -
with enough research and experience you can do both yourself but if there is a problem or you don't have the time or you want to lay in your hammock
while it gets worked out Mulege Properties will get the job done for you.
I pride myself for attending to problems proactively however, once in awhile, things get by me too. Case in point - I sold a lot last year and the
previous owner stated in front of the notary that everything was in order. Deal was completed and notarized and everybody was happy. However the new
owner found out recently that the previous owner did not accurately represent the deal (he misinterpreted a thirty year old receipt) and I feel the
anxiety of the new owner.
Though the deal closed over a year ago and I will receive no additional commission I feel like my reputation is on the line for customer service so in
less than two days I have negotiated the 170,000 peso bill down to 35,000 pesos and maybe less if the current owners want to push a little harder. Six
meetings with different parties and officials and the extra stress is worth it if everybody would be happy with their deals, my services, and the
future of Mulege.
Again, thank you for your support and kind words and I am here to serve you. My wife, Margarita, is here to serve you ice-cream and the best rum-laced
bread pudding this side of New Orleans.
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DavidE
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Heat and cold we laughed at in out twenties, became less fun in our thirties, a little annoying in the forties, downright rude in in our fifties, and
almost intolerable from middle sixties upward.
Where home is in Michoacan on the coast, running a window A/C unit is not really an option much of the time unless an individual can endure indoor
temps in the nineties with humidity in the 70% range.
When electrical power was less expensive, this was not an issue, but it sure as hell is, now. Unless an individual is willing to settle for a 100%
upper-lower class lifestyle this country is not inexpensive in much other than rent, basic foodstuffs and labor.
Other than for summer Dorado, how is the fishing over there? Catching lots of Cabrilla and Jurel in the winter? Years ago cochitos were damned near a
trash fish, now fillets are scarce and expensive.
IMO, it's a combination of things. Add up enough negatives to overpower the positives and For Sale signs start getting scotch taped.
The -overall- cost of living here on the peninsula is TWICE that of rural areas on the mainland coast. Housing is THREE TIMES as much.
As beautiful and elegant as this peninsula is, it has priced its way to the point where costs have met resistance. Do I think it's acceptable to own
one hell of an economical car and YET have to pay FORTY DOLLARS to get to the nearest Farmacia Similares, the sole, only and exclusive source of some
of my cardiac medications?
It's a shame. I eat Mexican food, have no TV not even a radio. My quality of life is far lower than it would be at home. So, all-in-all I am not
surprised to see folks bailing out.
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Heat and cold we laughed at in out twenties, became less fun in our thirties, a little annoying in the forties, downright rude in in our fifties, and
almost intolerable from middle sixties upward.
Where home is in Michoacan on the coast, running a window A/C unit is not really an option much of the time unless an individual can endure indoor
temps in the nineties with humidity in the 70% range.
When electrical power was less expensive, this was not an issue, but it sure as hell is, now. Unless an individual is willing to settle for a 100%
upper-lower class lifestyle this country is not inexpensive in much other than rent, basic foodstuffs and labor.
Other than for summer Dorado, how is the fishing over there? Catching lots of Cabrilla and Jurel in the winter? Years ago cochitos were damned near a
trash fish, now fillets are scarce and expensive.
IMO, it's a combination of things. Add up enough negatives to overpower the positives and For Sale signs start getting scotch taped.
The -overall- cost of living here on the peninsula is TWICE that of rural areas on the mainland coast. Housing is THREE TIMES as much.
As beautiful and elegant as this peninsula is, it has priced its way to the point where costs have met resistance. Do I think it's acceptable to own
one hell of an economical car and YET have to pay FORTY DOLLARS to get to the nearest Farmacia Similares, the sole, only and exclusive source of some
of my cardiac medications?
It's a shame. I eat Mexican food, have no TV not even a radio. My quality of life is far lower than it would be at home. So, all-in-all I am not
surprised to see folks bailing out. |
You make such a compelling argument for folks to buy in Baja.
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roundtuit
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Yes there is a change of people in Posada, most of the people that have sold have lived her for over ten to fifteen yrs. Either health or new
adventure has made them move on. The community here has more social gatherings than others in the area , if fact when we have an activity the
surrounding beach community comes to our events. Everyone here is friendly and wiling to help one another with any projects or friendly advice. We
have water, sewer, basura and electricity for 8 months of the year. Electricity from 10am till 10pm Oct till June Rent is comparable to other beaches
with many more amenities.
I have lived her for 8 yrs, yes I b-tch and moan about the cost, but there is no better bang for the buck. Hope to be here for another eight
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Alm
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ribbonslinger
Notice there are a LOT of places for sale in Posada. Anybody know why? |
What Moonracker said - because these "home owners" don't own the land.
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roundtuit
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They don't own the land at El Burro, Santispac, Coyote, Naranjos, Punta Areina, LocsCocos and several other beaches but they build their playaps and
enjoy the beach
P.S. They don't own the land either and they are on the beach
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Alm
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| Quote: | Originally posted by roundtuit
They don't own the land at El Burro, Santispac, Coyote, Naranjos, Punta Areina, LocsCocos and several other beaches but they build their playaps and
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On the beach, with no running water and everybody running his own generator in the evening.
The appreciation of price for a structure and "the right to rent" is questionable when rent is getting higher and structure is getting older. But
people live there as long as they can make it. It's what DavidE said - a combination of factors. In the case of more organized "palapa community"
there is also the timing factor - a bunch of people of pensionable age building a dozen palapas at the same time, and now they are getting old, all at
the same time, hence many "For sale" signs.
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Robinhood
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You can own the land at several beaches...
A sampling of properties available through my office where you can own the sand under your feet includes; Posada hill, Pt. Chivato, Naranjos, Puento
Suenos, Bahia Illusions, St. Inez, etc, etc.
Anytime you would like to have a cup of fresh cinnamon tea and look though the properties available for outright ownership through your fido. or
corporation please stop into Mulege Properties and see where ownership is possible.
Good discussion.
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Just to clear up one point for anyone interested.
You can own the land with the purchase of any of the 'titled' houses at Coyote Bay. There are about 11 structures there with 'fideos'. I believe the
first 'bank trust' enacted in Baja Sur was made there in 1973...numero uno.
A development called Coyote Cove is similar to Posada in that you buy the building and must lease the land. This has been the norm for the Bay area
for many decades now...ever since the highway went in back in 1973.
Posada Concepcion was the first such development. And there has always been a high turnover in housing there...due to the factors already stated.
All are great places to live. You won't go wrong dealing with Robin. Grab your piece of Paradise and find out for yourself. I know from experience.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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There are so many places for sale because no one is buying. It is amazing that people in the real estate business try to deny this. I moved to
Northern Baja from the red hot LA real estate market where nothing is for sale. Upon arrival, it was immediately evident that every thing was for
sale, residential and commercial. That is the last place you want to put any money into. If you chose to ignore this, that money will be dead money
for the foreseeable future and perhaps for good.
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chuckie
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Yet another expert.......
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DavidE
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Define that "expert" diagnosis Charles, I am breathless in anticipation...
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