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chuckie
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Why? Did you sell your Kayak?
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dirtbikr
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Mood: start slow....then taper off!
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Still have them, just don't want to kayak in that water.
If you\'re not living on the EDGE... You\'re taking up too much room! Its never too late for a darkside.
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gallesram
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I don't live on the river but I visit Mulege 6 times a year and rent a house in the Oasis which looks at the river. I watch fish jumping each morning
and birds diving into the water. I launch my boat in the river each morning and walk along its shores in the evenings. Never smell anything bad,
never see trash floating down it, etc. I wouldn't necessarily swim in it (there are jellyfish sometimes) but I certainly get it in when I'm launching
my boat. It's a beautiful place and while there may be problems that I'm not aware of I certainly can't tell with my untrained eye. If I noticed
dead animals in the river, a terrible smell or the absence of fish/birds then I'd wonder (my common sense observations) but since I don't see those
things then I assume it's in pretty good shape. Kayaking on it is very cool; don't let any naysayers rob you of a very cool experience.
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Mulegena
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The discharge tube is closed.
A rough translation of an address to Baja Sur Congress by State Representative Deputy Edith Aguilar Villavicencio:
Noting the demands of the citizens of the Heroic Mulege and Santa Rosalia to the right to an environment adequate for their health and wellbeing
because this pollution eventually means direct effects to health of Muleginos, to be the direct cause of gastrointestinal diseases and others, Rep.
Edith Aguilar Villavicencio issued to the Utility System Municipal Water and Sewerage Municipality of Mulege (OOMSAPAM), to take appropriate measures
to resolve this problem.
In reading her statement, Rep. Edith Aguilar said some few days, assigned to the State Office of the Federal Attorney for Environmental Protection
(PROFEPA) inspectors closed the discharge of wastewater into the river from the Heroic Mulege, which for quite some time had been practiced on a daily
basis. The Municipal Operator SAPA Agency, after inspection last June 4, which was detected and found that the black water lift station flowed into
the river, which creates a serious damage to public health and a considerable deterioration of ecological balance, so immediately proceeded to the
closing.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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chuckie
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Good. Was there not, at one time, discussion about a lagoon to be located north of Loma Azul? What were all those big pipes for that they were laying
by the airstrip?
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Mulegena
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The areas out by Punta Prieta north of Colonia Loma Azul are there but in disuse. I, too, understand they've been laying pipe to reestablish the
connection.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
Perhaps I'm a little rough on Mulege, Chuckie, but before we bought our place in BA, we were seriously considering the MUlege Orchard. And even
afterward, we were still considering buying a place there.
The deals in the area a phenomenal! And the house are incredible.
I still look at whatever shows up for sale in Mulege, and show it to my wife.
However...all the news from the last few years has not been the best for the town. We visit it quite often, and wonder at the beauty of the town. I
would love to have a place there.
We are still considering Cessna's place up on the hill.
My personal opinion may not sit well with Shari, or you, but I have always sensed a feeling of more gentrification in Mulege than BA.
Maybe it's just because Mulege is right on Mex 1, whereas one must take a long detour of Mex 1 to get to BA.
| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
Michael, The "newer" septics don't do a bad job. The ones installed back in the day were too small, no leach fields, prone to back up at high tides.
In La Fortuna, some of them served several residences. That has changed. I think, not sure, that the specs now in force, size of leach, distance from
river etc. are pretty good. The pumping/treatment facility across from Sauls needs a big money transfusion. Will it happen? Dunno...like lots of other
projects, a lot of promises, not much change.....Udo? Why are you bad mouthing Mulege? Maybe you should stick to fighting with your neighbors in
Ascuncion...Mulege will solve its problems, it always has.... |
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JC43
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
Perhaps I'm a little rough on Mulege, Chuckie, but before we bought our place in BA, we were seriously considering the MUlege Orchard. And even
afterward, we were still considering buying a place there.
The deals in the area a phenomenal! And the house are incredible.
I still look at whatever shows up for sale in Mulege, and show it to my wife.
However...all the news from the last few years has not been the best for the town. We visit it quite often, and wonder at the beauty of the town. I
would love to have a place there.
We are still considering Cessna's place up on the hill.
| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
Michael, The "newer" septics don't do a bad job. The ones installed back in the day were too small, no leach fields, prone to back up at high tides.
In La Fortuna, some of them served several residences. That has changed. I think, not sure, that the specs now in force, size of leach, distance from
river etc. are pretty good. The pumping/treatment facility across from Sauls needs a big money transfusion. Will it happen? Dunno...like lots of other
projects, a lot of promises, not much change.....Udo? Why are you bad mouthing Mulege? Maybe you should stick to fighting with your neighbors in
Ascuncion...Mulege will solve its problems, it always has.... |
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Hi Nomads,
My wife and I are considering to purchase a property in Mulege b/c good friends are living in the Orchard.
Well, we know little about Mulege, but as we can see, along the river it seems to be somehow stuffed w/ problems. Septics / Grey Water runs into the
river. Flooding. Fire. What else? Our friends from the Orchard are always talking good about Mulege as a cozy little town. And we agree on that!
At this time we are not in Mulege. We might be interested in a home we found in Baja Quest. It is located @ colonia 'Buena Vista' which is a part of
El Cacheno, next to the Serenidad cut-off from the highway.
The pics looking great. High above any flood zone and great ocean views. Does any Nomad know more about that property?
Neighborhood etc, As our friends are not in Mulege either @ this time they can't go there.
@ Udo: the cessna house, might be another option, but we don't want to interfere your interests. And somehow...... is the neighborhood o.k.? We have
to learn about Loma Azul before thinking about that.
In any case we are not looking @ a rental property .... monthly costs up to $500/month like in some rental places.
Thanks for any advice.
Justin Cox
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willyAirstream
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I would be glad to check out the property and send you pics of the Buena Vista property.
u2u me the location and details, upper right corner of this page.
The Cessna place is beautiful.
Mulege is a wonderful place with great people.
Welcome to nomads Justin
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mulegemichael
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i second willy here, amigo...mulege is beautiful, unlike what some folks here might claim...it is a wonderful little mexican village just chock fulll
of wonderfully brave, insightful, bright and creative folks that love their community...it is a fabulous place to experience the country without all
the glitz...ain't no stinkin' glitz in mulege!!!
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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Gulliver
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We own a house right on the river in the Oasis development. We deal with the floods by emptying out the house every Spring and storing EVERYTHING on
high ground. And I mean everything including the kitchen stove, water heater and fridge. Then some sheets of OSB go over the river side windows. If it
floods, and it has four times, the pressure washer, shovels and paint brush come out. Place looks like new.
That said, when we kayaked up towards the bridge this Winter, there was raw sewage flowing into the estuary on the North side near where the recent
fire seemed to have started. It stunk and I was dodging the 'wrinkle neck brown trout' until I got back downstream a ways. I still paddle. I just
don't swim.
To be honest, I sort of expect this sort of thing. It's a third world country with very little money. If you think that's bad, try Haiti or the
Dominican Republic. Yeow!
The nicest town in Baja. Go sit in the town square and spend some time dragging stories out of Alfredo and relax.
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cessna821
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This reply to JC43.
Loma Azul.
The village is approximately 3.5 kilometers from Mulegé town center, near the lighthouse at the mouth of the Rio Mulegé, and well above the river
flood zone. Loma Azul is a quiet and serene village with a friendly population. There are several extended Mexican families along with expatriates of
various nationalities which give a cosmopolitan feeling to the village. Over the years many of the residents have invested substantial funds in
improving their properties. We have lived there very happily for the past 15 years.
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JC43
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willyAirstream
I would be glad to check out the property and send you pics of the Buena Vista property.
u2u me the location and details, upper right corner of this page.
The Cessna place is beautiful.
Mulege is a wonderful place with great people.
Welcome to nomads Justin |
Hi WillyAirstream and all others,
First and foremost, thanks for the welcome, Nomads!
Willy, the property is located as I said, right at the Serenidad cut-off from the highway. Coming from town take a right @ the cut-off into a little
dirt road and it is only about 200 yds up the hill.
The ad in Baja Quest reads "This is it" and the email is to fthertel@hotmail.com. Priced @ 215,000USD. Seems to be reasonable, but maybe as always,
negotiable.
What we like on all properties like this - also on the Cessna place - NO flood, NO monthly fees for the dirt you don't own.
Most important for us, NO messing around w/ solar stuff, inverters, batteries to renew every two years or such things.
Well as it was explained here you can take all your stuff out of the house when leaving, including the stove and water heater etc.and place it on
higher ground. In a mini storage? We would need a lot of space. That'll be a 'biggi storage', LOL. And who is doing that job??? That is maybe the
second best idea of buying a house and moving to Mulege.
Certainly a solution. But why not buying a property on higher ground and not dealing w/ all that 'moving in' and 'moving out' every time you are
visiting Mulege.
@ the Cessna folks
What about the land? Do you own it free and clear?
Well, that leads me to another Q. It is said that Baja is no Fronteriza Zone anymore. The Fronteriza zone ends @ Maniadereo south of Ensenada - that's
what rumors say.
Well no Fronteriza means to me that we now can own land in Baja w/o fideocomiso.
Maybe that can be a new thread, looking for facts on that rumor.
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Mulegena
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Welcome to the Nomad forum, JC43.
Your thoughts and questions are many. A new, separate, thread would probably better serve your interests in acquiring property in the Mulege area.
Then you can get specifics and expand a bit more from the topic here which is the river cleanliness issue.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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JC43
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Mulegena . U R right. Sorry about leading away from the topic. I was thinking that river cleanliness and buying - or not buying - a property along the
river is somehow a related issue. At least the river cleanliness and thinking about buying a property along the river is an issue for those folks who
are looking for properties, don't you think?
But again, Yes, a new thread will be better on our issue.
Thanks for the hint.
JC
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Mulegena
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Absolutely, JC43. Your logic makes perfect sense. No worries. Since the town is built on the river's edge we all are aware of her ebb and flow. For
instance, now in the summertime the high tides are extra-high and the dirt path on the south river is not passable while in winter months it is.
I'm sure you'll get lots of help, ideas and personal anecdotes by directing your quest to one of several forums of your choosing such as Real Estate
Wanted, Baja Home Building and Living or even Baja Questions and Answers.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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cessna821
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To JC43
To save adding to this thread, drop me an email on:
fordintra@gmail.com
and I can give you answers to most of your questions
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chuckie
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That was pretty snotty....
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willyAirstream
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A couple of weeks ago, many pics were posted on Facebook showing the raw sewage pipe which drew attention from 100's of Mulegenos. I believe the govt
responded to the many comments on facebook and took action. The pipe has been capped. That is why I started this thread - to show that things can get
better here.
Another example is the accuracy of the gasoline pumps im Mulege. Again, this was exposed/posted on Facebook and many people "liked". 3 days ago, or
more, the pumps were dispersing accurate amounts, while 3 weeks ago they were overcharging by 25% plus.
The north side of the river now has a new road along the rivers edge which is beautiful and I wish it could connect to the malecon, sorry LF folks.
There are rumors about this happening.
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What? The road is open. At Stu's place you may have to 'take the high side. The road is not meant for
cars, only 4x4s and motos anyhow.
btw, The fire clean up has made the river a beautiful sight once again.
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Mulegena
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So you can get through to town from Stu's place? Good to know. Thanks.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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