Have I been nasty or insulted you personally because you fall for the populist ideas... that are 180º different from the populist ideas of the
1970's?
Wow David, you need to take a break here.
You hi-jacked this thread turning it, once again, into a political debate.
Every time you bring up ''Big Government'' (TV buzz word for Democrats), money earmarked for education going to the ''administration'' (read
Democrats), and ''union perks'' (read Democrats), I think you are preaching to those who you think are less informed than you.
That is the point of my posts, to counter those who would take away your freedoms over a hoax that serves only to gain them power and line their
pockets. Resist Big Government!
[Edited on 8-27-2015 by David K]
Your continue to think you are here to ''enlighten'' and ''educate'' (your words) other nomads while promoting a Republican Tea Party agenda.
I think both political parties suck. That includes the politics you continue to insult this forum with.
And by the way, your Palm Tree photos look photo shopped.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
Considering this movement is being measured in millimeters and/or centimeters ... One wouldn't expect to even notice it ... at low tide or high tide
... just saying
Ain't that "big" of change ... but those, ppm, ppb, ppt et al ... all tend to add up over time
BTW ... hoping I'm wrong and it all just goes away ... that would be much easier
Someone mentioned Global Cooling ... there were two theories back in the late 60's and early 70's ... one cooling one warming ... I took warming,
followed by cooling .... a cycle ... just talking how much on the extreme's and time frame which exist within the Quantum Foam
I think DK telling all of us, that we need to be educated and enlightened by HIM is kind of a hoot....We have all been relegated to the dumbed down
masses......and it's up to him to save us? Seminar workshop went well on Sunday...Money is a little tighter this year but we got 6+ miles of pledges
to restore habitat on 2 rivers....Work teams got organized and over the next year we'll git er dun. A lot of that will consist of removing non native
stuff, that was planted in good faith years ago and is now just sucking up and retaining water. Russian Olive, various willows....We'll be making
parts of the rivers crooked again where they got straightened...One of the rivers receiving attention will be the "Republican River"...so named
according to local lore, because it was "so damned crooked"....Surgery at 11....
Republican City, in south central Nebraska, is the only town by this name in the world. A historical marker down the river in Kansas says "...French
traders in the late 1700s named [the Indians] along the river the Republican Pawnee" in the mistaken belief that they had a republic-type government.
The Republican River, Republican City, and Republic County and Republic in Kansas, were all named for these Indians.
Don't worry DK ... I find this like sitting around a campfire, at night and shooting the bull ... everyone gets a voice at my campfire ... however
weapons are left in the car or truck
I don't take it personal ... and try to keep it clean
Just enjoy the chatter ... As I know I'm not going to make any real difference even if I went native been talking about this one for around 50 years
... our environment
And what fun would it be ... IF everyone agreed
Much like which is better ...a Ford or a Toyota to me
As I agree what are "people" going to do ... other than vote
And voting results is then put into the "hopper" in DC or with the IMF .. et al or ruled on by the Supreme Court ...and what do we get ... ask Bama on
his Coal Emissions
Comprise based on Economics .... which is driven by human's wish to survive at a level of life that human's deem as "reasonable"
Which is somewhat different than Natural Evolution which has occurred historically IMHO
About the only truly visible changes we are seeing right now ... migration of the human populations from areas which have become uninhabitable to area
which are and good luck with that one
And to some this thread my be dead ... but, the environment in which we live is not .... Yet
So toss another log on the fire ... It's all part of the Quantum Foam after all
Seems like a good way to conclude discussion on this topic.
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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Global sea levels have risen an average of 3 inches over nearly a quarter century, but not along the West Coast.
Long-term natural cycles there are hiding the impact of global warming.
In the long run we expect sea levels to catch up to the global mean and even exceed it," Willis says. "People need to be prepared for sea level rise.
It's not a question of how much, but when."
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So David K, your observations and the scientist's observations on the west coast sea-level rise agree. No need to post your palm tree pics anymore.
For sea-level rise, the issue is what is predicted to happen over the next several decades, not what has happened to date.
Yogi Berra - "It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future."
Some Americans don't believe the predictions, some do.
Some, probably most, like me, say, "personally I don't know, I'll go along with what the experts say"
My opinion, which I've not posted, is the same as what you've concluded. That is, I don't know either. I know what I read and see on TV.
And I have a close friend who is a Ph.D. physicist, retired from NOAA/NCAR, who thinks things are on track for a train wreck. I still don't know.
And since I'm apolitical, it's almost a non-issue for me. I care but what can I do?
And any propaganda talk about hoaxes and Democratic scams, union perks, etc., is subjective opinion. And NO there is no conspiracy theory of
scientists putting one over on us. But that's just my opinion and don't know that for a fact. Just doesn't sound right to me.
Regarding the destruction of civilization, I've read the sun will burn out in 5 billion years so yes there is something to be concerned about. Some
probably lose sleep knowing this is being predicted.
I wish the planet the best and when I'm dead in 20 years or so, I won't have an opinion on anything. Fine with me. (But I do think people will
be leaving California in droves because of the drought, and of course, when the Big One comes, Colorado will be ocean front. Maybe not.)
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
The problem with the NASA dire prediction is that while they say we had 3 inches rise in 23 years from 1992-2015 (about 3mm a year) which is
consistent with 80 years ago and not an anomaly, their prediction is that the sea will rise 3 feet in a 100 year period, which is an exponential
increase requiring 10mm per year and not based on any science or data.
IPCC, NASA, NOAA, EPA keep making dire predictions about disasters and none come true and their leaders continue to fly around in jets buying
waterfront property. Who would be foolish enough to give any credibility to such nonsense?
Worse, geo-engineering spraying of aerosolized aluminum, barium and salts among other materials to manipulate weather is poisoning the earth and
permanently destroying the ionosphere our food supply and our health.
Lack of critical thought about "predictions" is truly frightening, worse is the tendency of some Nomads to hurl insults while refusing to even look at
the data set, nor read the contents of the studies with a critical perspective.
It is also true that land rises and falls and satellites and gauges are not always reliable. This NOAA reading of sea level rise of 1.4mm/yr from a
rock in the pacific may be the most relevant for Nomads. http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.s...
So David K, your observations and the scientist's observations on the west coast sea-level rise agree. No need to post your palm tree pics
anymore.
[Edited on 9-2-2015 by SFandH]
No need you say, but I hope Lee can see...
I do love it when facts cause this kind of travesty to popular thinking. It really is about what is, and not what might be.
Have a wonderful evening Nomads... keep your feet dry!
Suppose this is why when considering "Planetary" change, it's a good idea to take into account the entire planet, rather than focus on just one area
and draw "Global" conclusions ... HUH
Sept. is starting off cool here .. usual weather in SoCal this summer ... June Doom and Gloom ... not ...July really not hot ... August not that hot
either and with marine layer showing up too in July, Aug and now Sep ... overcast as I type ... which is very unusual for this area
"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen.
The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back
if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt
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