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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 01:46 PM


The Facebook page 'San Luis Gonzaga' is showing damage to the homes at Alfonsina's.



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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 01:59 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The Facebook page 'San Luis Gonzaga' is showing damage to the homes at Alfonsina's.


Perfect example of why you should not build on a sand spit. Your houses are basically built on the beach.
Perhaps they should rebuild inland on higher ground, eh? Sea level is rising...
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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 02:30 PM


Just like at Bahia Santa Maria, people want a place on the beach with unobstructed view and access. Everyone knows that Nature bats last and storms with high tide can contact these homes or move sand from in front of or underneith them. The sea level change (if there was any) has nothing to do with damage from storm waves. After the storm, the sea returns to the normal level as it has countless times before. If it was rising, then after 60 years, you shouldn't be able to see it still below fixed physical objects that were just above the sea then. Yet, these objects are still just above the sea now as they were back then.



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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 03:14 PM


omigod..here he goes again..



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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 03:22 PM


How could a page about storm damage get to this?



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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 03:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
How could a page about storm damage get to this?


how can one talk about one storm without evaluating it in terms of of all storms and our dynamic mother earth? :?:
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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 03:51 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Just like at Bahia Santa Maria, people want a place on the beach with unobstructed view and access. Everyone knows that Nature bats last and storms with high tide can contact these homes or move sand from in front of or underneith them. The sea level change (if there was any) has nothing to do with damage from storm waves. After the storm, the sea returns to the normal level as it has countless times before. If it was rising, then after 60 years, you shouldn't be able to see it still below fixed physical objects that were just above the sea then. Yet, these objects are still just above the sea now as they were back then.


dk,
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if sea level rises 8 inches, the shore does not disappear beneath the sea.
what happens is:
the high tide is 8 inches higher,
the median tide is 8 inches higher, and
the low tide is 8 inches higher.

think about it! :light:

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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 04:01 PM


I am sure 8" is a big thing to you goat. 8" did not destroy beach homes, however.



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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 04:16 PM


Since the storm damage is not a big thing to some (I feel for the people in Bahia Gonzaga), Maybe this will help you out David.


http://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/glo...

or this one

https://ww2.kqed.org/science/2015/08/26/nasa-rising-seas-abo...

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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 04:19 PM


Road open now with detours in Catavina, San Ignacio, Santa Rosalia, and multiple points around Loreto and Cabo.
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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 04:21 PM




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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 04:32 PM


BUT? WHY?



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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 04:44 PM


I agree with everybody :) that first of all this is the fact of building on sand, few feet away from high tide. Locals rarely did this in the past. Maybe now they do it more often, when there is no other land or they've become commercialized - thinking about some tourist business and waterfront property appeal.

I don't know how soon those 8" will come. There is a consensus, however, that climate does change. Wind and storm patterns become less predictable, more sudden and often more violent. Odille was bad, nothing like this ever happened since the beginning of records 70 or 80 years ago. Lidia has come close to it, just a short 3 years after. Saw the Cabo video? They will clean the mud, fix the roads and viaducts, build more drainage ditches, seawalls, locals and tourists will pay the bill. Next hurricane will do less damage, and then another one will come heavier than before.
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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 07:35 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Just like at Bahia Santa Maria, people want a place on the beach with unobstructed view and access. Everyone knows that Nature bats last and storms with high tide can contact these homes or move sand from in front of or underneith them. The sea level change (if there was any) has nothing to do with damage from storm waves. After the storm, the sea returns to the normal level as it has countless times before. If it was rising, then after 60 years, you shouldn't be able to see it still below fixed physical objects that were just above the sea then. Yet, these objects are still just above the sea now as they were back then.


dk,
again...
if sea level rises 8 inches, the shore does not disappear beneath the sea.
what happens is:
the high tide is 8 inches higher,
the median tide is 8 inches higher, and
the low tide is 8 inches higher.

think about it! :light:


Come on Goat

You can do better than that

Aren't you an edumacated HYdrologist???

What about beach sand depositing

Never any mention of that argument:lol:
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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 07:38 PM


Budda's got it right!
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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 07:39 PM


.... And the reel goes, zzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ !!!!



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[*] posted on 9-4-2017 at 07:41 PM


Old saying

"Sea level rise ,Sand level rise "

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[*] posted on 9-5-2017 at 12:43 PM


Seal level rise is caused by Arctic ice melting. More water.
Sand may shift around, but I don't remember reports on fast increase of the total mass of sand on the planet. Maybe hydrologists could shed some light on this.

Yeah, don't worry, be happy, fish on, have a cold one. Move - I love it, will pass this good news to local villagers - move. JeezzzZZZ...
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[*] posted on 9-5-2017 at 02:02 PM


If you put ice cubes in a glass and fill it with water does the water go higher when the ice melts?
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[*] posted on 9-5-2017 at 02:07 PM


Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
If you put ice cubes in a glass and fill it with water does the water go higher when the ice melts?


Sure glad you brought that up.


depends upon how much of the ice cube is above the water line...for example...if you add ice to a glass of water does the water line go up? Now....how much of the glacier melt is above the water line.

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