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EnsenadaDr
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Then if the answer is so simple, why doesn't Dan or the Rancher say so? I was told the money was specifically supposed to be used for a search party.
If the question had been answered there would be no need to brainstorm answers as to where it went. The amount specifically as Dan stated to me was
"pesos". It didn't sound like a lot of money but again I don't know the amount. I could fully understand the Rancher keeping it for expenses but
that is not what is was what it was originally intended for. I guess we will ever know. | Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Janene,
Consider the payment to the rancher compensation for digging Gary's Toy out of the sand, towing it to the safety of his ranch, and contacting the
police in Catavina. |
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elgatoloco
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There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.
MAGA
Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
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greengoes
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JZ
It's none of your business crazy lady. Just freaking stop it. |
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SFandH
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
I have been asking the question ad nauseum what happened to the searchers.......... |
Yup!
Definition of AD NAUSEAM. : to a sickening or excessive degree.
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JZ
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Then if the answer is so simple, why doesn't Dan or the Rancher say so? | Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Janene,
Consider the payment to the rancher compensation for digging Gary's Toy out of the sand, towing it to the safety of his ranch, and contacting the
police in Catavina. |
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Because it's none of your business. I've got many U2U saying you've lost your mind and are acting disgraceful in this thread. Is that what you
really want to be known for on this board??
[Edited on 6-30-2014 by JZ]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elgatoloco
There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know. |
And...as the late, great Louis Armstrong once said: "There are some people who, if they don't know, you can't tell 'em."
Yep....Ol' Louis said that.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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tripledigitken
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They don't owe you an explanation. For you to call the rancher a criminal proves again you haven't a clue.
(please don't bother responding, it's really not necessary or wanted)
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Then if the answer is so simple, why doesn't Dan or the Rancher say so? | Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Janene,
Consider the payment to the rancher compensation for digging Gary's Toy out of the sand, towing it to the safety of his ranch, and contacting the
police in Catavina. |
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Terry28
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please..please...please close this thread..it's over, over ,over,......something about beating a dead horse......
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Terry28
please..please...please close this thread..it's over, over ,over,......something about beating a dead horse...... |
It's still getting more action than any other thread here. When we quit posting on it, it'll probably go the way of all others to thread heaven...or
hell...however one sees it. 
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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willardguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Terry28
please..please...please close this thread..it's over, over ,over,......something about beating a dead horse...... |
It's still getting more action than any other thread here. When we quit posting on it, it'll probably go the way of all others to thread heaven...or
hell...however one sees it. |
thread purgatory?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
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thread purgatory?
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This thread has been in need of a righteous purge for some time now. 
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Kgryfon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Forget closure. I wish we could invoke cloture. |
Haha! This ^^^^
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Kgryfon
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Maybe this Rancher is the one who spiked the poor deceased girl from Arizona's energy drink with Ecstacy that he bought with the money he stole from
Gary's familiy! And I bet the Rancher bought the Ecstacy from that Marine guy before he got busted! And the Marine guy was planning on trading his
guns for more drugs to deal up in San Diego and that's why he crossed the border with them! Yep...that's the ticket - explains everything, doesn't
it? Oops, except where's Gary...darn Ithought I had it all figured out...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Kgryfon
Maybe this Rancher is the one who spiked the poor deceased girl from Arizona's energy drink with Ecstacy that he bought with the money he stole from
Gary's familiy! And I bet the Rancher bought the Ecstacy from that Marine guy before he got busted! And the Marine guy was planning on trading his
guns for more drugs to deal up in San Diego and that's why he crossed the border with them! Yep...that's the ticket - explains everything, doesn't
it? Oops, except where's Gary...darn Ithought I had it all figured out...
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You got all that figured out without the benefit of skidmark analysis from the underwear. Amazing detective work.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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Kgryfon
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Yeah, if I only had the expiration date off the bottle of orange juice I'm sure I could figure out how Gary fits into all of this!
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micah202
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
What do you mean Joe you don't agree with me all the time? I thought we were like Ebony and Ivory, living in perfect harmony (just referring to the lyrics, not our colors!!) |
...ohh,,tell me that we'll still get camping this winter!?? 
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micah202
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elgatoloco
There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know. |
....wow,,,yea....just..so..true! 
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micah202
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.....this thread is sinking like a............oh,waidaminute
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BajaBlanca
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ellow Nomads,
Around end of June, we reported that Gary's car was safely brought back to us by Dave and Sue, Gary's siblings. We took time over the 4th and
since then to search as much as possible thru the contents and the car itself, what hadn't been discarded, for any clues to Gary's disappearance, yet
we've found nothing. Finding nothing means 1) that there are no indications of wrong-doing, no injury, no blood, nothing to suspect Gary did anything
more than leave the vehicle temporarily ( I say that because of everything left so in tact in the car, including the keys). (2)Although a few things
are missing (can of coins, water bottles, toolbox, his wallet), there's nothing to suggest foul play. It is almost as if Gary walked away to talk to
someone, or enjoy the sunset, with every intention of returning to his car within 30 minutes or so. The fact that he left his camera and keys
absolutely suggests he intended to come back, and that he felt the camera would be safer in the car out of the sun than wherever he was going, and if
carrying water, he couldn't carry the camera too. Since the car was stuck, he also was probably confident no one would take the car, and because he's
so trusting of Mexicans, he did not fear for his valuables either.
Today, there are probably fewer than 2-3 of us in the family that continue to believe that Gary could be alive. I know many of you had given up
months ago, and your consideration for our plight has helped us few believers immensely, even with the bantering. I am struggling to find next steps
to keep the effort going, and it has been extremely hard with the lack of funds to work with (we are unable to sell the car because we're without the
original title and Gary).
But I am working on a few ways to raise funds to keep something going and soon (with much prodding from friends of mine). One is simply a donation
page (see plumfund.com and search Gary's name), and the other is to promote Gary's pictures, he has many very good photos (easier to do within the
U.S. than in Baja), in exchange for donations to keep our efforts going. Our search will be to confirm Gary is alive more so than to find remains so
no combing the desert, to find local people with clues either to what happened to him or even to find him, living and loving life on some beach with a
good family perhaps, maybe not far from where his car was found, who knows. I refuse to give up on the easier theory that Gary is gone into the sands
of the desert, because I know him and have to feel there is still hope because there is no conclusive evidence to the contrary.
Also, the rancher has not reported finding anything. He's obviously still there but not solely focused on our situation which is why we know we need
to do more. Stay vigilant as you have been ...more to come. And thank you all for being there, for me and my son ... and Gary. --Kim
P.S. If I have not said it enough previously, this site has been so invaluable to me, I hope we can keep it going until we can turn it into a new
purpose -- not a clue what that will be but I can remain hopeful.
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volcano
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suggest fundraising for reward money for lead leading to either finding him alive, or to lead leading to arrest of culprit that ended his
life.....volunteer posting of posters via bajanomad
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