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EnsenadaDr
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That would be nice. No one is going to hound the Rancher. That is just a ploy to excuse the fact that a thorough investigation was not done.
Pictures of the ranch and the site where the 4 Runner was found should have been part of any investigation. If I had gotten financial reimbursement,
that is what I would have done first thing. I was told to go down there myself. At this point and with all the confusion, I would do it if I was
reimbursed for the trip since no one else seems to have the inclination. I know David K is much better with this area than I am and I am happy
someone will be going down there such as yourself to give us all a clearer idea of where his truck was found. As far as an airstrip, who and what
flies in there?
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TMW
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Nobody flies in there. The government has cross cut all dirt fields except Santa Ines at Catavina to stop the drug runners.
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EnsenadaDr
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BTW, September 4th will be the year anniversary that Gary disappeared. Let's all remember him in our thoughts and/or prayers and hope that closure of
his whereabouts happens soon.
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Mexitron
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
Nobody flies in there. The government has cross cut all dirt fields except Santa Ines at Catavina to stop the drug runners. |
Didn't see any ruts, which is why I mentioned it.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
BTW, September 4th will be the year anniversary that Gary disappeared. Let's all remember him in our thoughts and/or prayers and hope that closure of
his whereabouts happens soon. |
Deductive reasoning should be sufficient for closure. Why should it be left to archeology? That, for me, would be much more painful.
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EnsenadaDr
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DENNIS I am surprised at your response especially when you are so interested in underwear evidence. | Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
BTW, September 4th will be the year anniversary that Gary disappeared. Let's all remember him in our thoughts and/or prayers and hope that closure of
his whereabouts happens soon. |
Deductive reasoning should be sufficient for closure. Why should it be left to archeology? That, for me, would be much more painful.
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micah202
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
BTW, September 4th will be the year anniversary that Gary disappeared. Let's all remember him in our thoughts and/or prayers and hope that closure of
his whereabouts happens soon. |
...yes.
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Fellow Nomads,
The BajaTimes has generously approved publication of an article updating where we stand in 'Missing Gary Patton.' This article reviews that though
the car was found and recovered, in a very remote location 45 miles from Catavinia, we still have no sign or evidence of Gary, now one year later as
of Sept. 5th.
We also have secured a similar update that will be aired on radio programming in Tijuana specifically for the "missing," not sure the station or time
or frequency, only that a kind woman from Rosarito, Peggy May who owns a travel agency there, offered to help get a plea for help on Gary broadcast on
such program, and soon as I know more, I will update all here.
It is a hard time to know all this time has lapsed with no hint or suggestion as to where Gary is, and while we constantly fear where he may be,
until I have absolute proof, I will not give up, can not. Gary survived Vietnam, there's no way his love of Baja, the whales, and the waves could
harm him. Take him, yes, but not harm him, nor the good folks whom he always befriended.
More to come, comrades.... and thank you always for your support.
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David K
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45 miles is the approx. road distance to the coast, his truck was (we think) at least 10 miles closer to Cataviņa, in the desert.
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EnsenadaDr
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So David, you say you could not locate a ranch there on Google maps? Is there any way to get some type of handle on the actual ranch area where the 4
Runner was found?
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greengoes
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Buen dia doctora. Did you see the trip report Taco de Baja posted? He was close to that area, maybe he discovered some missing pieces.
I was browsing facebook the other day and wonder of wonders, the page for Sunset Medical Services was being touted on my timeline. Did you do that?
Anyway, how is the location just south of TJ working out? Any pictures of the facilities coming to here soon?
Buenas suerte on your new venture.
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DENNIS
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No way what so ever. Let it go.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
So David, you say you could not locate a ranch there on Google maps? Is there any way to get some type of handle on the actual ranch area where the 4
Runner was found? |
so a year has passed and the location info has not been publicized? since no one is going to conduct an organized search, might as well publish the
coordinates so a passing traveler with interest can aid by putting free eyeballs on the scene.
the simplest answer is usually the answer. i suspect the body is situated within a few hundred yards of the location the vehicle was found or
somewhere along the path a person would walk out to get help for stuck car. note that people that walk don't always follow the road and take short
cuts overland,... look for the body there.
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EnsenadaDr
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Good Morning Greengoes!! So glad we are talking again! i have no idea what you are talking about but maybe we could meet at La Avioneta at the Fish
Taco place you were telling me about and you could show me in person. | Quote: | Originally posted by greengoes
Buen dia doctora. Did you see the trip report Taco de Baja posted? He was close to that area, maybe he discovered some missing pieces.
I was browsing facebook the other day and wonder of wonders, the page for Sunset Medical Services was being touted on my timeline. Did you do that?
Anyway, how is the location just south of TJ working out? Any pictures of the facilities coming to here soon?
Buenas suerte on your new venture. |
[Edited on 9-3-2014 by EnsenadaDr]
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
So David, you say you could not locate a ranch there on Google maps? Is there any way to get some type of handle on the actual ranch area where the 4
Runner was found? |
Did you see the last satellite map I posted here with TW-1 and TW-2 ranch sites on it?
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greengoes
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Good Morning Greengoes!! So glad we are talking again! i have no idea what you are talking about but maybe we could meet at La Avioneta at the Fish
Taco place you were telling me about and you could show me in person.
[Edited on 9-3-2014 by EnsenadaDr] |
I didn't know we had stopped talking. This is the facebook page I was talking about -
https://www.facebook.com/healthbajanorte
It had your name attached to it and seemed to be advertising house calls.
Sol is still a tad miffed at you though.
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EnsenadaDr
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what does TW stand for? I didn't realize those were ranches and which one represents the ranch where the vehicle was found?
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
what does TW stand for? I didn't realize those were ranches and which one represents the ranch where the vehicle was found? |
? Umm, just read the posts above from TW (a Nomad friend with the initials T.W.) who spotted two sites that are ranchos, he said.
I see a ranch for sure on TW-2 (as I labled it on my map) but TW-1 looks only like a clearing. However, that may not be the case as the images are not
new. Bing has newer images, but I have not seen that spot yet on Bing.
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EnsenadaDr
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They should have probably been labeled ranch TW-1 and ranch TW-2. Maybe the map with the "T's" on them should be taken to the Catavina police by
someone in the area for further verification. Seems like several Nomads pass by there. Maybe the police officer at Catavina could put an "X" marks
the spot. It would be nice for the Rancher to comment on the map and delineate the exact ranches and where the car was found, but for some reason no
one wants to reveal anything about him so someone, could get a clearer picture. If all there is is a TW map, seems to me not much to go on.
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David K
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TW gave two GPS waypoints in HIS reply saying they MAY be the ranches closest to where the 4Runner was found. I called his two waypoints TW-1 &
TW-2, then added them to the GE map. I don't see a ranch on GE at #1, but that doesn't mean there isn't one there built after the image was taken.
Neither one may be the ranch where the truck was towed... maybe there is another we haven't seen or has been built since the image was taken.
Dr., please look at GE (Google Earth) and BING yourself and answer your own curiosity. The truck isn't at the ranch anymore. I think it is more
important to confirm where the 4Runner was found... I marked a spot based on what Dan posted, and it was told to him, so who knows for sure?
[Edited on 9-4-2014 by David K]
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