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cutexianchick
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SiReNiTa
Cutexian, I've driven all through Baja and barely look old enough to have my license and have never been pulled over, I always respect transit rules
and go the speed limit, but that's not to say that no one else will get pulled over, that's just my experience.
IF you get pulled over, don't be afraid, I seriously doubt that you are in any danger at all, if the police man asks for money, ask for a ticket and
for him to escort you to the station to pay it. Also as said above it might be a good idea to have the other person in the car video taping the whole
thing, ask for his name and badge number (numero de placa) politely, I doubt he will insist on taking money after that and if he does...well stand
your ground and only pay if you did something wrong.
Have in mind that lots of stop signs in C.C. are a bit hidden and hard to see so it's possible to run a stop sign with out noticing (at least for me
since I have not spent much time there and don't know the streets).
Don't get nervous! |
That you so much for your tiem in answering my question... 10 pages of topic was a bit confusing on just what to do in the situation. thank you.
[Edited on 7-3-2010 by BajaNomad]
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Juanita
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Well, they're still at it. I just passed through Ciudad Constitucion southbound, and I thought maybe on a Sunday I wouldn't see anything. Part way
through town a big new-looking black pickup truck with California plates and a motorcycle in the bed pulled onto the road ahead of me and I followed
him through several lights, thinking he was being so careful he must have read this thread. On the left in the 'local' northbound lane I saw a police
car stop someone. We proceeded southward but just when we were departing town a police truck zoomed up between me and the black pickup, lights ablaze
and pulled him over. I'm sure not looking forward to the return journey.
The only protective strategy I can think of is to park at a store, wait till someone else has been pulled over and then hope to get by. But the
problem begs for a solution that doesn't throw someone else to the dogs, and I think many letters from those who receive fines, over time, and talking
to contacts, may eventually help. I can talk to our state legislator in San Ignacio when I get home.
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desertcpl
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I want that job with the police in CC.. how cool is that, legal extortion. way cool. I could fund my retirement in no time,
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rhintransit
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El Juncalito checking in again...being close to Constitucion, we local gringos have had a lot of traffic stops there...a (female) resident was the
latest to run the gauntlet there yesterday. having read an article in the La Paz Gringo, and being aware of the situation from her neighbors, she was
not surprised to be stopped. she carefully followed all stops, etc, and was pulled over anyway. she said she was polite and courteous and cheerful,
handed over her Mexican license and was told of the mythical pedestrians in the crosswalk she'd narrowly missed. she was told that she could pay the
officer 200 pesos or go to the police station and pay 500. the officer seemed quite surprised to hear her cheerfully agree to go to the station, and
gave her several more chances to pay him instead. anyway, still cheerful and cooperative she followed him on a round about way to the police station
(which IS OPEN ON SUNDAY). he went in, a young woman came out, another offer of paying the officer, then she was let go, told to be very careful
while driving...
reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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DENNIS
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What became of the raging "letter to the boss" campaign that was happening here last week?
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cutexianchick
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So I have decided on our way down... we will video driving through the city and now this city too. So when we get stopped I will play that sucker at
the station and tell them, where is the pedestrian??!!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cutexianchick
So I have decided on our way down... we will video driving through the city and now this city too. So when we get stopped I will play that sucker at
the station and tell them, where is the pedestrian??!! |
I suggested once before that you go back and read the thread from the beginning, but you couldn't be bothered. All of your questions have been
answered.
While you're at it, leave that video camera at home. It will just get you in trouble.
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BajaBlanca
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maybe we should fly Mexican flags on our cars ??????
Les always says "give me the ticket" and they never do.
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cutexianchick
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by cutexianchick
So I have decided on our way down... we will video driving through the city and now this city too. So when we get stopped I will play that sucker at
the station and tell them, where is the pedestrian??!! |
I suggested once before that you go back and read the thread from the beginning, but you couldn't be bothered. All of your questions have been
answered.
While you're at it, leave that video camera at home. It will just get you in trouble. |
DENNIS
I did READ all of the posts... with so much information I am still confused! Your so crochety, I sware... I cant post something on here? I have read
pros and cons to every which way to go!
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Lee
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Walk a mile in her shoes
Consider any further discussion about what's been said, Dennis, as review.
It might be difficult for some to consider running a gauntlet in CC as fun in the sun in Baja.
So, let's welcome more discussion on the hows and whys of dealing with the situation down there.
Video taping your drive through CC is a great idea. Very creative.
Have a good time. You're in Baja.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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DavidE
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Sheez!
Flip on your hazard flashers at the edge of town and then go through town at the speed limit on the signs. It is illegal to be ANYWHERE in an
intersection when a light turns red. Buckle up and yield for pedestrians.
If a cop gives you a hard time, tell him vamanos a la commandancia. If he says the station is closed or the commandante is shacked up at la casa chica
tell him "That's Fine Can You Recommend A Good Hotel?"
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SiReNiTa
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
If he says the station is closed or the commandante is shacked up at la casa chica tell him "That's Fine Can You Recommend A Good Hotel?"
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 Nice!!
As for the letter, I'm working on translating it and I believe Iflyfish stated he would be back tuesday to send it??
It's really to bad that our "protectors" try and many times succeed in taking advantage of people, and that they are ignorant enough to think that
just because most of the people are tourists, they don't know whats going on.
It's sad to see because that gives all mexican police the same bad name, and not all of them are corrupt.
Gone are the good 'ole days when a police would ask you for just enough "pa' la soda"
Happened to us once in Loreto when we took a wrong turn on a one way street (oopsies), the cop was young and we told him honestly that we did not see
the sign and were not from there...it was night time and we were tired of driving around and wanted to get to our camp site and sleeeep, so he got our
20 pesos and we were on our way (yes I know, even 20 pesos gives them the wrong idea, but what's done is done).
Live life as well as you can,
don\'t regret the things that once made you smile,
learn from your mistakes,
and thank God for every second he gives you upon this earth.
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Jaybo
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You guys have until next February to get this fixed when we drive down there 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SiReNiTa
"pa' la soda" |
What does that mean, mi tesora?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
Video taping your drive through CC is a great idea. Very creative.
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Bad idea, Lee, .....unless the cameras are well hidden.
Then...what do you do with the copy? Show it to the chief or the mayor or the state police or the federales?
What do you do with it?
Is there anybody there who will be shocked by your video production?
Is there anybody there who doesn't know what's happening?
Is there anybody there who will side with you over there brother in the industry?
Is there anybody there who won't tell you that they are astounded by your accusations and want to help you?
Is there anybody there that will pee in the face of their brothers and take your side?
Is there any possibility that you and others here will wake up and see reality?
Nobody in the system which is Ciuadad Constitutión will see your point of view for anything other than, "this time we got you, yankee-sucker" humor.
C'mon, Lee. You know better.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
What became of the raging "letter to the boss" campaign that was happening here last week? |
BUMP Need an answer.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
What became of the raging "letter to the boss" campaign that was happening here last week? |
BUMP Need an answer. |
How much is it worth to ya? I may have an answer.
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
Video taping your drive through CC is a great idea. Very creative.
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Bad idea, Lee, .....unless the cameras are well hidden.
Then...what do you do with the copy? Show it to the chief or the mayor or the state police or the federales?
What do you do with it?
Is there anybody there who will be shocked by your video production?
Is there anybody there who doesn't know what's happening?
Is there anybody there who will side with you over there brother in the industry?
Is there anybody there who won't tell you that they are astounded by your accusations and want to help you?
Is there anybody there that will pee in the face of their brothers and take your side?
Is there any possibility that you and others here will wake up and see reality?
Nobody in the system which is Ciuadad Constitutión will see your point of view for anything other than, "this time we got you, yankee-sucker" humor.
C'mon, Lee. You know better. |
Dennis, videos posted on Youtube are considered influential evidence to provide to a judge, jury or superior in Mexico or anywhere. Video is a
standard form for submitting evidence of a crime to identify the persons and submit evidenc and is referenced in cases where applicable.
You see, posting video evidence on Youtube allows all parties to review and be aware of the available evidence. You can take it before a judge and in
many cases video evidence shines light on the truth.
Public spaces, such as public roads provide no expectation of privacy and as a public space, taking photos or videos is your right.
You might be surprised but these videos are absolutely passed around the Minesterial Publico and tagged with the office and the names and do have
significant impact on defeating corruption.
Here are examples
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s0m0OO8Dr0&feature=relat...
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shari
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hey D...pa la soda or para la soda means ....for a soda...it is a very very common expression in these parts meaning a small gratuity so the person
can go get a soda.
We use it alot here when someone has done something nice for you....gives you a tow, helped change a tire, pull you out of the sand, generally if
someone went out of their way to help you with something, or returns a found object, rescues a pet, whatever...we always offer some money and they
always say no no no and then we say Pa'la soda as we stuff it in their pocket or on their dashboard. It is a polite way to show your appreciation and
is better than saying here is a tip. Most often people will take a small tip if you say Pa'la soda.
I quite like the idea of videoing your cruise through the gauntlet and think it would be effective...maybe.
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desertcpl
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well I got to get back into this.
Shari. I think you would really be asking for problems with having a camcorder on them.you would not be able to do this going thru check points,, the
cops in CC know this.
I said this before on this thread and I agree with Dennis
and lets see what K-Rico has to say about this
nothing is going to be done locally with the police in CC. it needs to be done from the outside, then down to stop this
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