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TMW
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When you add ice to water the water will rise based on it's displacement but when ice is already in the water and melts the displacement is already
factored in.
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mtgoat666
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...and you may also want to consider the thermal expansion of water
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bajabuddha
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If you put a chunk of Limbaugh-ger cheese in a glass of water, does it still stink? 
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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chuckie
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I just put ice in my rum and coke, and as it melted it got empty.
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freediverbrian
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Just got back from Gonzaga, we got a lot of rain and wind blowing 30-40 with gusts to fifty mph . Alfonsinas got it hard on Saturday high tides , wind
from the south and big waves pushed on the beach. Under mining the slabs and flooding about the first 17 homes south of the hotel . Many downed patios
and flooded homes .
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Tomas Tierra
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How about Alfies itself?? Any major damage to the hotel/restaraunt?
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rts551
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Quote: Originally posted by TMW  | | When you add ice to water the water will rise based on it's displacement but when ice is already in the water and melts the displacement is already
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Kind of like this ice cube? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aFT0aDrz6w
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freediverbrian
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No the hotel looked good
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Casey67
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Just drove from Mulege to Ensenada Mon/Tues and everything is good on the road except a handful of spots where they are pushing mud around, such as
Catavina. No problems with any type of vehicle, ignoring the usual economy car eating potholes.
A rose by any other name is still just rice
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Alm
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That's it.
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Alm
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| Quote: Originally posted by Casey67 | | Just drove from Mulege to Ensenada Mon/Tues and everything is good on the road except a handful of spots where they are pushing mud around,
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That would be Sept 4. So the road that collapsed Sept 2 - below - has been fixed?
Km 185 btw Mulege and Sta Rosa
[Edited on 9-6-2017 by Alm]
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SFandH
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The photos/videos of the Greenland ice melt are dramatic. Lots of fresh water that used to be frozen and on land entering the ocean.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=greenland+ice+m...
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chuckie
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Is the tree under water yet?
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SFandH
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I just checked the official global warming sea-level rise Coyote Palm Tree hydraulic space modulator measuring webcam and it says nature bats last,
the climate has changed before, it's ridiculous to think man can affect climate, and two photos taken 40 years apart proves that the greenhouse effect
is a Chinese conspiracy to gain control of international trade.
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David K
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Funny that all that melt water has yet to raise the sea just one foot more, in the past 60 years.
The video is obviously shot in the summer when the ice would melt. How much ice is added back on in winter? They never talk about the ice adding to
Greenland every winter.... only the ice leaving every summer.
No doubt at all that things change, the earth is dynamic. The sea level used to be far higher, thousands and millions of years ago (I can show you
petrified shells in the desert). If it is rising, then it is just going back to where it used to be. It would be most interesting to see actual sea
level higher above normal high tide, in Baja, by even a foot, since say, 1950... It hasn't, yet.
Is it a few inches higher? Maybe? With the daily high tide several feet above low tide, is a few inches of one foot more doing anything at all? If it
is a problem, can't you adapt? The animals are smart enough to, after all.
Will people need to move? Sure. Will new launch ramps and marinas need to be made? Naturally! Can man do anything to change what Nature intends? I
doubt it!
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chuckie
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The N Koreans are pushing the tree up from beneath as the water rises, from a secret base camp in Oxnard....I seen it on the internet!
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Alm
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Trying to stay on the subject... Since discussing one hurricane without looking into big picture is technically possible... If you don't plan on
living there longer than a year or two...
Fixing roads in 3 days: not quite. Ron Hoff report - Click on the link "Baja weather & roads report".
Highlights embedded below:
" Highway Mex1 is currently passable down the length of the peninsula... You should drive with precaution through the problem areas south of Guerrero
Negro ...
You will encounter several bypasses, work around's and sections of the roadway where minor standing water remains along with rocks and debris ....
... expect slow going - increased travel time - for the highway south of Guerrero Negro. We have received numerous reports of new potholes - some very
deep...
BYPASSES:
Too numerous to mention all
RECOMMENDATIONS:
Note recommended currently for very low ground clearance vehicles, RV's or towing.
Be sure to pack extra drinking water and snacks in addition to any special medications, just in case any further unexpected delays may occur. "
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azucena
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It is disconcerting that Baja Nomads used to be the "to go to" place to get solid information, and help in times of trouble. Now you have posts that
wildly veer into politics , personal attacks that just make the place look foolish.
If you want to pontificate, argue about melting ice, do so to your hearts content on ANOTHER thread. You could title it " is there a correlation
between melting ice and diminished brain function?
Time and place people, and a sense of compassion and decorum..
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chuckie
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YES
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Bob and Susan
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Mulege
I went to town yesterday
Its clean...
lots of people in the streets sweeping
all businesses are open
lots of fresh food in the stores and milk
the water is on and clear
the electricity is on
the river is clear mot muddy looking
the ocean is normal again
by Friday you wont ever know there was a storm
the people that live in mulege are amazing and recover quickly
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