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mtgoat666
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Paul,
If you read it on the internet, then it must be relevant and true! 
You should thank god you got your inheritance to live on, as you don’t have sense enough to hold down a job that would support you in the style you
are accustomed to!
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Skipjack Joe
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Quote: Originally posted by lencho  |
I agree; what I was referring to were online communities, which were live and well at least 10 years before http and WWW browsers ever came on the
scene.
What was eWorld?
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eWorld was Apple's answer to AOL. AOL was big time in the 90s, of the magnitude of Tesla today, and Apple wanted a slice of the pie. It was an
'internet' that was closed to Apple users only. Rather than information contributed by independently by servers all over the world Apple would pay for
that information and make the same data available to it's customers. I was a consultant for Apple for 3 years. My job was to design a database to
store all the data that would be stored on Apple servers rather than all over the globe. You had sports, headline news, stock market real time values,
etc. It's funny to think back on it now. We expected customers to pay for every page they clicked on.Well, the free internet blew all that away, as it
did AOL. That was around 96.
I worked in the Silicon Valley from 1980 through 2015 so I personally witnessed all the changes that occurred during those years. There's a difference
between what was invented and what was used. The Apple II, Lisa, Mac, and the IBM PCs that were used in the 80s and early 90s could only be connected
via ethernet cables to local networks in an office facility. Home usage data transfer was done via floppy disks. Realistically, nobody communicated by
way of desktops from their homes until the mid 90s.
So I have to disagree that online communities were available 10+ years before the internet. The hardware just wasn't even available then.
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| Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
My friends who are women on this site message me on U2U and share their concerns about posting.
What is unclear is why it is tolerated at all here, or worse encouraged, it is not hard to remove trolls and spam. |
Your mom and sister are not technically "friends." They likely are stuck dealing with you.
There's nothing stopping you from leaving if you're not happy. In fact, the way you denigrate and belittle others on this site makes me wonder why
you're even here in the first place.
Be gone, foul spirit, be gone.
John
[Edited on 3-1-2021 by John Harper] |
well stated john. i feel gnu might be happier if he reconsidered his participation.. perhaps others as well.....me for example.
[Edited on 3-2-2021 by pacificobob]
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gnukid
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| Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe |
So I have to disagree that online communities were available 10+ years before the internet. The hardware just wasn't even available then.
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Bulliten boards existed from the start of connected computing. First with 300 baud and moving up, in kindergarten, we had a teletype to connect to
BBS, later Hayes modems arrived in the early 80s and soon v.21 v.22 in mid 80s login to 1200 baud.
In my neighborhood (in silicon valley) we had terminals and modems at home in the early 70s. Games like Caves, etc brought shared environments to
multiple users.
Using modem compression and compressed files we could share a great deal of news, text, and images too. Data compression was critical, as was multiple
phone lines to run a Board over 1200-2400.
v.32 brought 9600 and v.32bis 14,400 which was significant in the early 90s.
Bell Labs was supportive of our efforts and I was among the first to develop BBS with shared copper lines with ISDN combining multiple 56k lines to
allow multiple people to use images and graphics to create art together across the world at events like Siggraph broadcast on large multiscreens
creating HD with 56k modem technology in the early 90s.
USENET supported mass transfer of news groups (in the early mornings, in the early 80s there were more than 100,000 usenet groups and fidonet for bbs
mail so we had global email and news over 1200baud to BBS as kids, and as mentioned Compuserve and later Aol and many other dial services, if you were
interested in that crap.
Finally, v.32 brought 28.8 and 33.6 and soon thereafter v90 Hayes modems brought 56k to everyone.
I was a volunteer editor for the IEEE, because they wanted kids t help create standards docs that were easy to read and understand, IT was common to
pass all standards docs to a group of kids and homogenize technical jargon. That is why I remember the standards and speeds not to mention I spent all
my savings on modems and hand built servers from car at Fries and other warehouses.
We were assigned the task of creating tons of icons at 32x32 pixels prior to the broad arrival of http since there was need for library management of
file types and iconifying experiences.
First Xerox and ARPANET had an extended network of more than 300,000 computers.
Soon after came the broad access to internet with http which brought graphical ui to shared text/images to masses.
Soon Sun and SGI etc joined the backbone and boom we were connected and there was need for huge number of websites and communities.
Since that moment I hand built sites everyday at first using cgi perl, php, html etc now both open source and off the shelf - its much easier, now I
build sites for the enterprise Borg that serve millions of users with personalized content, which leads us to THE POINT... of the WEF call for a
planned 4th Industrial Revolution also known as the Great Reset which required a catalyst in the form of a pharma pandemic of gain of function of
SARS2 called COVID to force everyone to work remotely and adopt automation, robotics, simulation and artificial intelligence and crypto currencies in
order to precipitate central banking re-fuedalism.
Interesting this makes curmudgeons upset, but I guess I understand why, when here we are still using a basic text based simplified BBS called XMB --
ON THE INTERNET while we have 300/mbs fiberwire into our homes. $#@!%
Oh wait why is SkiJack mad again - darn I always forget why he is mad but he sure is mad. !#$%@!
Here is a photo of the North wind yesterday.
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It's funny to make up lies and post nonsense on Baja travel boards, but, to clarify, I come from a family that is strictly against nepotism, no one in
the family has ever received a a trust or cash because it is believed that perceived likelihood of future inheritance is inverse to personal drive to
succeed.
During this time of COVD shutdown, I have had high productivity.
Recently I began to build my own ranch clearing the land myself to grow my own food in Baja, each step I have paid from my own pocket and hand built
every piece along the way. I also help my neighbors, (gringos too), to fix their cars and build their ranches to build a working community.
In just one year I have rebuilt multiple motors and rebuilt quads and motos that were abandoned and unused. Prior to this year I had never built a
motor.
    
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FYI Pay attention to what is happening to children
New Study Finds Masks Hurt Schoolchildren Physically, Psychologically, and Behaviorally
https://montanadailygazette.com/2021/01/25/new-study-finds-m...
Oxford University adds children to AstraZeneca COVID-19 study
https://nypost.com/2021/02/13/oxford-university-adds-childre...
Oxford-AstraZeneca begins a vaccine trial for children. It’s the youngest group yet to be tested
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/02/13/kids-covid-v...
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Lobsterman
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | FYI Pay attention to what is happening to children
New Study Finds Masks Hurt Schoolchildren Physically, Psychologically, and Behaviorally
https://montanadailygazette.com/2021/01/25/new-study-finds-m...
I appreciate your extended effort to inform others on the important "Other side of the Story" on covid. Please keep it up because I'm sure I'm not
the only one who reads these informative articles. It's too bad BN is becoming a "cancel culture" like is so prevalent in politics today. Now it
appears they are eating their own with Trump out of office. Go figure.
As for Goat, he's notorious at making up unkind things about others who disagree with him or who he disagrees with. I guess that's how he gets his
jollies. A few years ago he doxed my KIDs and made up stuff about them as well. Just to mention a few things he said about my family. Can't get to me
so he lowers himself to attach ones innocent family members. I guess it's just the type of person he is. A shame such a learned person transforms
himself into a hateful lowlife.
Please keep speaking your mind and do not let a few trolls with nothing better to do silence your voice.
This is what BN trolls do with others they do not agree with. Sad!
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | From the study preprint:
"EDITORIAL NOTE:
This study is based on a survey regarding the adverse effects of mask wearing in children. Due to multiple limitations, this study cannot demonstrate
a causal relationship between mask wearing and the reported adverse effects in children. Most of the respondents were parents, and the survey was
distributed preferentially in social media forums that, according to the authors, “criticize the government’s corona protection measures in
principle”. The limitations of the study include sampling bias, reporting bias, and confounding bias as well as lack of a control group."
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Odd that I found my kids and so many other kids love dress up, masks and Halloween,....
My kids today even now accessorize with masks, have different colors/patterns for different outfits.
I think the only people psychologically impaired by masks are the covid-denialists, the red state trumpers (like Paul) who crazily think masks are
some communist plot for mind control.
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | From the study preprint:
"EDITORIAL NOTE:
This study is based on a survey regarding the adverse effects of mask wearing in children. Due to multiple limitations, this study cannot demonstrate
a causal relationship between mask wearing and the reported adverse effects in children. Most of the respondents were parents, and the survey was
distributed preferentially in social media forums that, according to the authors, “criticize the government’s corona protection measures in
principle”. The limitations of the study include sampling bias, reporting bias, and confounding bias as well as lack of a control group."
You insult us. |
Don't point out gnukid's 'misinformation'. It's destroying Bajanomads.
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I find this type disinformation campaign on masks disturbing.
And I don’t understand why someone won’t believe an article from AP news but blindly believe something from the Montana daily gazette.
Frankly I don’t believe either and I am especially skeptical when something agrees with what I have as a preconceived idea.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by Purdyd | I find this type disinformation campaign on masks disturbing.
And I don’t understand why someone won’t believe an article from AP news but blindly believe something from the Montana daily gazette.
Frankly I don’t believe either and I am especially skeptical when something agrees with what I have as a preconceived idea. |
Go to the Montana daily gazette and read the “about” section. The paper was founded by and for conservative/religious zealots. The paper is
fundamentalist loonie tunes stuff! Paul is reading crazy stuff on internet, has started to believe the fundamentalist crazies, gnukid has been
radicalized
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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The Montana source sounds like it’s total nonsense, and not a newspaper at all. Google it.
https://www.votereilly.com/amp/fake-news-from-eastern-montan...
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I think gnukid has been out in the Baja sun too long without a hat.
John
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Gnukid just got inserted in the back of the line on BN.
Sad day. Whose next?
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Go to the Montana daily gazette and read the “about” section. The paper was founded by and for conservative/religious zealots. The paper is
fundamentalist loonie tunes stuff! Paul is reading crazy stuff on internet, has started to believe the fundamentalist crazies, gnukid has been
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Maybe. The same can be said about the NY Times. It's not news at all.
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Here is the problem
After Virus "Gain of Function" research was shut down at US Fort Deitrick, the project continued to be funded in Wuhan and apparently that funding
continues today.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/virus-biol...
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/11/24/cdc-inspectio...
https://nypost.com/2021/02/21/wuhan-lab-at-heart-of-covid-ou...
Recent Freedom of Information Act requests released 300 pages of Fauci WHO emails that show that all press communication were to be signed off by
China, case data didn't match reported numbers and data was intentionally withheld by mutual agreement with China.
Judicial Watch: New Emails Detail WHO/NIH Accommodations to Chinese Confidentiality ‘Terms’
https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/emails-who-term...
Fauci WHO China emails
https://www.judicialwatch.org/documents/dcnf-v-hhs-nov-2020-...
‘RECIPE FOR DISASTER’ China got $27MILLION in US taxpayer cash for experiments including ‘human fear’ tests as pressure mounts over Wuhan lab
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14217922/china-funding-nih-27m...
Dr. Fauci Backed Controversial Wuhan Lab with U.S. Dollars for Risky Coronavirus Research
https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan...
The US National Institutes of Health, a government agency, awarded a $3.7million research grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211291/U-S-governm...
WHO team leader admits no 'hard facts or detailed data' received from Wuhan lab
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/who-wuhan-lab-team-c...
“Exactly, but of course, as I said, we didn’t do an audit of any of these labs, so we don’t really have hard facts or detailed data on the work
done,” Embarek said.
WHO Investigation into origin compromised
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2450817/who-covid-probe-shamble...
On W.H.O. Trip, China Refused to Hand Over Important Data
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/12/world/asia/china-world-he...
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2328505/covid-investigation-wuh...
CASES COVER-UP? Wuhan Covid investigator says China refused to hand over raw data on first cases to WHO team probing how pandemic began
Note, fear, stress and toxins are primary components to "gain of function' of influenza type illness.
Controlling press and cases reporting is critical to inspiring fear to both control people with increased restrictions, surveillance and contact
tracing, and to induce stress to increase illness.
How very little can be done under the spirit of fear.
—Florence Nightingale
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Go to the Montana daily gazette and read the “about” section. The paper was founded by and for conservative/religious zealots. The paper is
fundamentalist loonie tunes stuff! Paul is reading crazy stuff on internet, has started to believe the fundamentalist crazies, gnukid has been
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Maybe. The same can be said about the NY Times. It's not news at all.
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Not the same thing but, yes, the NYT is a shadow of what it once had been.
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Key to critical thinking is the ability to be able to read a variety of sources, including those that do not align to your biases, hold the thought,
consider the issues and use your critical thinking to come to a consensus conclusion.
You can not think critically by restricting or censoring content, and rely on one source or a politically aligned sources.
Moreover, sharing sources, data, etc doesn't infer that the data reflects the views of the poster sharing the source, it is simply another source to
consider in the big picture, to arrive at a truth.
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
Key to critical thinking is the ability to be able to read a variety of sources, including those that do not align to your biases, hold the thought,
consider the issues and use your critical thinking to come to a consensus conclusion.
You can not think critically by restricting or censoring content, and rely on one source or a politically aligned sources.
Moreover, sharing sources, data, etc doesn't infer that the data reflects the views of the poster sharing the source, it is simply another source to
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I know that. Don't need a lecture. You, of all people, are not an objective thinker. To tell us to not align with our biases is pretty hypocritical.
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Interesting, that on Inauguration Day, COVID guidelines changed to no longer accept assumed or presumed infection from covid for those with symptoms,
like cough, fever, etc which are common for colds and flu.
Second, guidelines changed to say that PCR RT testing should no longer be allowed with 40 or more cycles which produces false positives and every
diagnosis of covid must include both a positive test with threshold in lower range close to 30 or less, and evidence of symptoms which radically
reduced the number of COVID cases.
https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-not...
It is well admitted that PCR RT is not a test for isolation of COVID and it produces large numbers of false positives, meaning any anomaly produces
positive, cold, flu, anything at all.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-rt-pcr-how-to-mislead...
Now there is huge reduction of positive covid cases based on testing, and reduction in cases, to practically zero new cases.
Even those positives are associated with false positives. If you account for false positives and for lack of isolation, actual positives of COVID
cases has reached zero.
See CDC Weekly covid update.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidvi...
Also, we see that during high number of COVID deaths, common causes of death were radically reduced, Heart Disease, Diabetes, Cancer, Pneumonia etc.
and common influenza disappeared completely.
Were common illnesses and influenza cured while covid flourished, or were those common illnesses recategorized as COVID?
Macro, overall excess deaths are equal year to year taking in account population? Meaning no increases in excess deaths overall, no evidence of
pandemic illness causing excess deaths.
What evidence of COVID pandemic exists today? Is there a unique isolated virus that can be demonstrated? None.
Why has there been such extensive funding of collusion with Wuhan Infectious Diseases Laboratory and obfuscation of facts? Why doesn't there exist a
sample of COVID Virus for study in USA Universities if it is so prevalent?
These revelations have led to end of restrictions and reopening of states. Many States are now completely open including Florida, Texas, Tennesee,
South Dakota, Arizona is back to school, many states announced open visits with seniors and have announced no restrictions, nearly all of Mexico is
Yellow meaning no restriction of activities or work on a National level, though both USA and Mexico allow for municpal decisions.
So why does this Good News about the end of COVID scare and the revelation there has been collusion with China to create fear with amplified cases and
deaths make Lockdowners so angry?
Because 1) they have to go back to work. 2) they are responsible for their own health issues.
What did the Covid relief package reveal? Groups are being paid for compliance with collusion while the people receive less than 10% (close to 5%) of
the support.
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