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BajaBlanca
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one never gives up American citizenship unless you specifically ask to. you simple ADD another one and become a dual national....
that being said...if you are Mexican you cannot ask the American consulate/embassy for help since you are Mexican when in Mexico. At least this is how
it was explained to me.
so:
In the States, you are American and in Mexico, Mexican.
Can we find out if Cristina has permission be moved to another facility ? Who is representing her ???
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fandango
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this situation is unbelievable for ron and cristina.
nomads rock.
i'm in for 500.00
sbwontoo
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
one can have dual citizenship |
Just like you, amigo. |
Yes, and while Shary is right about when in México you are a mexican, you can still go to the US. In this case you are asking to be taken.
It was just a thought. There is still a lot we don't know.
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
Can we find out if Cristina has permission be moved to another facility ? Who is representing her ??? |
Representing her? Nobody...that I know of. She, as I stated earlier, is in grave condition on a ventilator. She won't be moving any time soon.
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shari
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I believe Chava's wife was with Christina while Chava was with ron...sirena will also be checking on her status and giving updates
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bajabass
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Dra. Bajabass relates that you will just need to ask for the transfer, though the bill will need to be covered first. As far as equipment at Velmar,
it is the best available, now, in Ensenada.
A few years ago I had a pretty serious problem that required x-ray, ultrasound, a kidney biopsy, and extensive lab/pathology workups. That is the only
place she wanted the work done, easily over the 2 hospitals she worked with in Ensenada. They have an MRI, in house, as of her most recent knowledge.
Keep your eyes on the road, and your hands upon the wheel!
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bajabass
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I also wish to add that this forum and it's members are a very special group of people. A group I am proud to be involved with!!! Wish we were up in
La Mision and not La Paz right now. I'd of had Dra. BB there in an hour to help oversee/translate.
Keep your eyes on the road, and your hands upon the wheel!
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oladulce
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
sounds like they really need a good head trauma doctor to see Ron...he cant be moved because of swelling on the brain...it's awful to feel so helpless
way out here too...I'm counting on Sirenita to be our eyes and ears on the ground there..the great thing is that her husband's uncle is a doctor there
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Shari, please understand this is not directed towards you or Sirenita:
I was hoping we could work towards arranging for his transfer out of there before they started pulling that crap. I could have told you he has brain
swelling from 800 miles away. He made the drive from San Qunitin and sat in their place for hours before they did anything. Transferring him at least
provides some options. He needs to be by seen by neuro surgeon in a place with scanning facilities that has an OR ready to take him to surgery-
immediately if necessary.
Claiming "he can't be moved" because it might increase his intracranial pressure is ridiculous. He is already critical and he needs treatment, not
observation.
I hope his daughter doesn't let them push her around and has someone with medical knowledge to help her with decisions.
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AmoPescar
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Hola Fernando...
6:20pm Pac Time
I have not heard anything more from Celia. Last I heard around 4:30 was a Dr. who works with her was on his way to the hospitals to assess the
situation. He may have arrived and still be checking on their conditions. If there is any need to contact ME, I'm sure she will.
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I DID let Celia know that if the need was there, that money had been offered to aid in their assistance.
Nomad Amigos...Here\'s hoping you all have safe Baja travels, amazing sunrises, sunny days, comforting breezes, beautiful sunsets, tasty tacos,
cold cervezas and frosty margaritas!!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
Dra. Bajabass relates that you will just need to ask for the transfer, though the bill will need to be covered first. As far as equipment at Velmar,
it is the best available, now, in Ensenada.
A few years ago I had a pretty serious problem that required x-ray, ultrasound, a kidney biopsy, and extensive lab/pathology workups. That is the only
place she wanted the work done, easily over the 2 hospitals she worked with in Ensenada. They have an MRI, in house, as of her most recent knowledge.
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Moving them to Velmar could cost many, many thousands. This has to be thought through because the bill must be paid. This ain't the USA which is
maybe where they should be.
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AmoPescar
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Oladulce...
Hopefully...the doctor Celia at BEMCC has asked to assist will be there to see their condition and make an assessment of what to do. Maybe he is there
now and is in touch with the
family and/or the other doctors. BEMCC has helped many out in these critical situations and knows what need to be done and how to cut through the red
tape and bureaucracy.
Maybe Sirenita can check to see if the Binational Doctor has arrived.
Michael
| Quote: | Originally posted by oladulce
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
sounds like they really need a good head trauma doctor to see Ron...he cant be moved because of swelling on the brain...it's awful to feel so helpless
way out here too...I'm counting on Sirenita to be our eyes and ears on the ground there..the great thing is that her husband's uncle is a doctor there
and hopefully can help figure out what needs to be done. |
Shari, please understand this is not directed towards you or Sirenita:
I was hoping we could work towards arranging for his transfer out of there before they started pulling that crap. I could have told you he has brain
swelling from 800 miles away. He made the drive from San Qunitin and sat in their place for hours before they did anything. Transferring him at least
provides some options. He needs to be by seen by neuro surgeon in a place with scanning facilities that has an OR ready to take him to surgery-
immediately if necessary.
Claiming "he can't be moved" because it might increase his intracranial pressure is ridiculous. He is already critical and he needs treatment, not
observation.
I hope his daughter doesn't let them push her around and has someone with medical knowledge to help her with decisions. |
Nomad Amigos...Here\'s hoping you all have safe Baja travels, amazing sunrises, sunny days, comforting breezes, beautiful sunsets, tasty tacos,
cold cervezas and frosty margaritas!!
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AmoPescar
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Sirenita / Shari
Can you check with someone to see if the Binational Emergency Comm.
Doctor has arrived or been to either hospital yet?
Michael / Miguelamo
Nomad Amigos...Here\'s hoping you all have safe Baja travels, amazing sunrises, sunny days, comforting breezes, beautiful sunsets, tasty tacos,
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Diver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Moving them to Velmar could cost many, many thousands. This has to be thought through because the bill must be paid. This ain't the USA which is
maybe where they should be. |
You're right, if they're moving him anywhere, it should be to the US, whatever the cost.
Think about who/how/where we can send money fast.
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SiReNiTa
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I might be wrong but I wonder if the cost of moving him to Velmar would only consist of:
1- Paying the bill at Sanatorio del Carmen
2- checking him in to emergency room at Velmar and get a tab going???
I'm no expert so who knows...
Right now i'm waiting for Chava to give me a call to let me know when Ron's daughter gets here,
I'll let you all know as soon as I have more news
Live life as well as you can,
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redmesa
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He may not have medical insurance in the U. S.
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MikeYounghusband
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I just got home from work and read the news. God be with both of them. They are good friends and went out of thier way to save my butt when I was
stuck in the mountains.
If anyone can confirm that Ron is a Vet and can be seen at the VA let me know. I was offered an ambulance to meet me at the border should I need it
and I will make some calls if necessary. My number is 619-663-2060.
God be with my friends.
Mike
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SiReNiTa
2- checking him in to emergency room at Velmar and get a tab going???
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 Have you ever seen the spinning wheels of a slot-machine? That's what your
tab does.
Velmar is as proud of themselves as they are good. Doctors working there don't drive Volkswagons.
Neither do the Janitors.
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JESSE
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Sad news, my prayers go out to them, if theres anything i can do from down here, let me know.
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Skipjack Joe
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OMG, I just saw this. Trying to find how bad it is and where to send money.
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SFandH
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A paypal account needs to be set up. I'll pitch in. Sounds like the bill is already sky high.
[Edited on 9-12-2011 by SFandH]
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