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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
haven't we squeezed enough politics out of this thread???????? |
I promise to quit before midnight, and patiently await the "report" on Monday about the "frame weld". I am really curious about what actually
happens.
Barry |
Once and for all, I am taking my truck in Monday afternoon to have it repaired on Tuesday. Some of us still have jobs
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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I think of the forum like a boiler pressure relief valve. Here within reason we can share our hopes, our joys, and otherwise, with friends. Tongue
wagging is therapy as long as the tongue does not have a barb on the end.
More than one is curious about the outcome of that frame repair.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
So even if you earned the requisit 40 quarters, or my wife did, you can not collect because of the provision
'it also affects the benefits of others claiming on the same social security record.[2]'
So Bajaboy will not be able to collect SS no matter what it calculates out to be because he had two careers. One paying no SS taxes (even if the one
paying was longer than the one not paying). It was a slight of hand law to save money during the Regan years. |
NOPE regardless of what some news channels might report, teachers in California cannot double dip. Again, it really riles me when I hear how teachers
are screwing everyone over.
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Bajaboy
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And my wife, a special ed teacher, is in the same boat donating into Social Security.....okay back to the great San Diego weather and my growler of
Stone IPA....time to grill
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
here Barry you can verify it on WIKI (you too David)
The Windfall Elimination Provision (abbreviated WEP[1]) is a statutory provision in United States law which affects benefits paid by the Social
Security Administration under Title II of the Social Security Act. It reduces the Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) of a person's Retirement Insurance
Benefits (RIB) or Disability Insurance Benefits (DIB) when that person is eligible or entitled to a pension based on a job which did not contribute to
the Social Security Trust Fund. While in effect, it also affects the benefits of others claiming on the same social security record.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windfall_Elimination_Provision |
It "reduces" the benefits, not eliminates them, or at least that is the way I read it.
-----but, I did not know such a law was in existance, and it sure does not seem to effect my wife's SS-------wonder why? By the way, I LIKE that
law-------if we don't need SS, we should not be collecting it, IMO. I have always felt that way. To me, SS is a "safety net", and should be treated
that way. (but I can't get my wife to agree with that) 
Barry |
You feel that way because you were always employed by the government. So you think that the government should steal Bajaboys entitlement just because
he had to careers. one of them a teacher? hmmm says a lot about your politics and personal life. why is your wife getting ssn payments. Did she
count your pension as income. maybe we should ask.
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
So even if you earned the requisit 40 quarters, or my wife did, you can not collect because of the provision
'it also affects the benefits of others claiming on the same social security record.[2]'
So Bajaboy will not be able to collect SS no matter what it calculates out to be because he had two careers. One paying no SS taxes (even if the one
paying was longer than the one not paying). It was a slight of hand law to save money during the Regan years. |
NOPE regardless of what some news channels might report, teachers in California cannot double dip. Again, it really riles me when I hear how teachers
are screwing everyone over. |
It is not double dipping. no matter what anyone says. you work two careers, each paying into separate accounts. what is wrong with that.
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chuckie
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So! they dipped the frame? what did they dip it in ? Did that fix the crack
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Barry A.
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RTS----------my wife collects SS even tho I have a Fed. pension, and separate income form investments, and we totally reported that when my wife
signed up for SS a couple of years ago. She has been a self employed Artist all her life. Also, from our annual tax report, they know exactly what
we make in Interest, Dividends, and Cap Gains.
I am not sure I understand what you are saying here.
By the way, I had 23 jobs in the Private sector before I ever joined the Fed. Govt.. I chose not to collect SS because I did not need it, tho I
barely had enough quarters to qualify, I think---(not sure because it has been a long time since I looked at that)----maybe I did not have
enough!?!?!?!?!?
Barry
[Edited on 5-21-2012 by Barry A.]
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rts551
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OK Barry.at least you have been given the facts. The "you have yours" attitude is not comforting. Nothing personal, its just that I tend to
think that if we all do well, we all do better. a little different than trickle down.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
RTS----------my wife collects SS even tho I have a Fed. pension, and separate income form investments, and we totally reported that when my wife
signed up for SS a couple of years ago. She has been a self employed Artist all her life. Also, from our annual tax report, they know exactly what
we make in Interest, Dividends, and Cap Gains.
I am not sure I understand what you are saying here.
By the way, I had 23 jobs in the Private sector before I ever joined the Fed. Govt.. I chose not to collect SS because I did not need it, tho I
barely had enough quarters to qualify, I think---(not sure because it has been a long time since I looked at that)----maybe I did not have
enough!?!?!?!?!?
Barry
[Edited on 5-21-2012 by Barry A.] |
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
OK Barry.at least you have been given the facts. The "you have yours" attitude is not comforting. Nothing personal, its just that I tend to
think that if we all do well, we all do better. a little different than trickle down.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
RTS----------my wife collects SS even tho I have a Fed. pension, and separate income form investments, and we totally reported that when my wife
signed up for SS a couple of years ago. She has been a self employed Artist all her life. Also, from our annual tax report, they know exactly what
we make in Interest, Dividends, and Cap Gains.
I am not sure I understand what you are saying here.
By the way, I had 23 jobs in the Private sector before I ever joined the Fed. Govt.. I chose not to collect SS because I did not need it, tho I
barely had enough quarters to qualify, I think---(not sure because it has been a long time since I looked at that)----maybe I did not have
enough!?!?!?!?!?
Barry
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No, "trickle down" benefits EVERYBODY, according to Art Laffer and common sense, AND my personal experience, AND the personal experience of my Family
Members for many years. My intention is not to brag, but to give you the benefit of my totally known personal experience, which for me counts so much
more than books and studies that use questionable input for their conclusions.
BArry
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rts551
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OK Barry. Books and studies(education) have served a lot of people well (including the 1%).
Time to watch the eclipse.
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Barry A.
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The eclipse was wonderful, and we had a totally clear day up here to see it. It got pretty dark, but not as dark as i expected. The moon was
considerably smaller than the sun, from this location. Big ring of fire, but I did not see any "solar flares" or anything like that.
I do not totally discount "studies and books" by academic experts, but I don't hang my hat on them either-------it is all good, and I have read my
share, and they contribute to the big picture. BUT, they are NOT the final word--------actual results are the final word, to me anyway.
Unfortunately, people measure "results" in so many ways that it becomes very obscure what is actually right and wrong in economics, and what is
actually happening. To me, results are the % rate that my portfolio grows over many years----thats it.
Again I say, watch Suzy Orman on CNBC and she tells it like it is, IMO, for the most part, tho she is a tiny bit too conservative for me, but I
understand that for a TV show.
Barry
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chuckie
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Is she going to talk about Toyota frames?
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
Is she going to talk about Toyota frames? |
 I think not. She is leaving that up to Bajaboy on Monday or Tuesday.
Barry
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
So! they dipped the frame? what did they dip it in ? Did that fix the crack |
It was sent to Mad Mike at Pimp My Ride. Triple Nickle Plated! BLING! BLING!
Some of Mad Mike's handiwork...
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David K
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California used to be one of the best school systems... When I had children using it, I discovered a total change from school of the late 1960's and
early 70's (and no vouchers for us working folks to use private schools, like the elite politicians use for their kids).
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chuckie
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So they are are establishing a scholarship/grant program on Frame Welding?kool, Maybe after all this trivia and political BS we can find out about the
Toyota fram..But I doubt it...
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Barry A.
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"trivia and political BS"?????????????
Barry
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
Wondering why California is ranked 34th in math and science.Way below the national average. |
... and the world average.
This quote is appropriate for this thread -
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=60190
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
California used to be one of the best school systems... When I had children using it, I discovered a total change from school of the late 1960's and
early 70's (and no vouchers for us working folks to use private schools, like the elite politicians use for their kids). |
One of the main reasons is because we spend less than most states and you get what you pay for...or what repeated tax cuts give you
http://www.edsource.org/data-ca-per-pupil-exp-compare-states...
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