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edm1
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Well, in light of Dennis' purported reaction to my post, I hereby STFU.
Just wanted to make sure he was on board with all the details of his personal life being out there for Nomads to read. |
Hook, the purported reaction is their private conversation and business, and shouldn't change how we truly feel and think, what is right and what is
wrong.
[Edited on 6-22-2012 by edm1]
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Hook
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Oh, I still have my opinion of what was right and wrong in all this. It was very glaring. And not surprising, really.
But Dennis is the boss on this, assuming he is given the chance to BE his own boss.
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EnsenadaDr
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Maybe you need a legal refresher..Edm1
Patient information made public with the patient's consent is not a violation of privacy...Just sayin' | Quote: | Originally posted by edm1
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Well, in light of Dennis' purported reaction to my post, I hereby STFU.
Just wanted to make sure he was on board with all the details of his personal life being out there for Nomads to read. |
Hook, the purported reaction is their private conversation and business, and shouldn't change how we truly feel and think, what is right and what is
wrong.
[Edited on 6-22-2012 by edm1] |
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edm1
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Patient information made public with the patient's consent is not a violation of privacy...Just sayin' | Quote: | Originally posted by edm1
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Well, in light of Dennis' purported reaction to my post, I hereby STFU.
Just wanted to make sure he was on board with all the details of his personal life being out there for Nomads to read. |
Hook, the purported reaction is their private conversation and business, and shouldn't change how we truly feel and think, what is right and what is
wrong.
[Edited on 6-22-2012 by edm1] |
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No thank you. I have proper sources of legal info.
[Edited on 6-22-2012 by edm1]
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wiltonh
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If he knows that everyone is talking about him, it might give him a good goal to come back here and tell us how things really are.
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Oh, I still have my opinion of what was right and wrong in all this. It was very glaring. And not surprising, really.
But Dennis is the boss on this, assuming he is given the chance to BE his own boss. |
And that's a point that bothers me a bit.
It seems that things are being done for his own good over his objections. That is someone knows more about what's good for him than he does himself.
In my opinion that is the way to kill a patient's spirit. One of the worst things about being hospitalized is a sense of loss of power. A sense of
your life now being run by others. Many of the comments he has made and were posted suggest that that is a struggle for him. A struggle to remain in
charge of his life.
So I like Vicente's attitude. Don't change anything without D's desire and consent. This should not be a power struggle.
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Hook
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Give it up, EDM1. It's all about attention..............
Dennis, sorry for the dramatic asides. I hope you will understand that a person can be concerned with more than your PHYSICAL well-being. That was my
deal. I wouldnt want all that personal stuff coming out while I was lying incapacitated.
And, you, with no Pacifico, either. The horror................the horror..............
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edm1
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Give it up, EDM1. It's all about attention..............And, you, with no Pacifico, either. The horror................the horror..............
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:-)
Yeah, I wish Dennis the best.
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danaeb
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| Quote: | Originally posted by edm1
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Patient information made public with the patient's consent is not a violation of privacy...Just sayin' | Quote: | Originally posted by edm1
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Well, in light of Dennis' purported reaction to my post, I hereby STFU.
Just wanted to make sure he was on board with all the details of his personal life being out there for Nomads to read. |
Hook, the purported reaction is their private conversation and business, and shouldn't change how we truly feel and think, what is right and what is
wrong.
[Edited on 6-22-2012 by edm1] |
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No thank you. I have proper sources of legal info.
[Edited on 6-22-2012 by edm1] |
I was so concerned with this issue that I contacted Doug directly by email. My issue is with Dennis' self-appointed spokesperson divulging private
medical information. I experienced the same phenomenon after a serious medical procedure, when I began receiving unsolicited emails from total
strangers (friends of friends, etc) wanting to discuss my 'condition', cures, prayers etc.
I don't know Dennis, but it's obvious that that the outpouring of love and offers to help is what this forum is all about. So please, don't misread
this. My only issue is with the dissemination of private medical information, and respect for such.
Experience enables you to recognize a mistake every time you repeat it.
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rts551
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Wow.
fake marriage certificates
fighting over who is the caregiver (and probably who takes care of his finances)
private info on the internet (hopefully doesn't lead to illegal activity)
looks like Nomads is on a new low. I sure hope Dennis gets well soon and can speak for himself.
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toneart
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I don't know Dennis or DrEnsenada personally, but I do know their select identity that they wish to present here on this public forum, and other
forums.
I have commended Janene on her willingness to put aside the widely publicized animosity and take charge as a medical overseer. However, I agree with
Hook that Dennis' wishes be honored. How do we know what his wishes are? Well, it is none of our business, other than our concern for his well being.
In my opinion, Janene is talking too much online. How does she find the time, given that she is a busy Nurse/Doctora in Mexico, and now she has taken
on the Dennis project (reluctantly). She would be much more effective by quietly focusing on her tasks and just update us on his medical
progress...period.
I am distrustful of people who have that kind of vehemence (like Rumana and some of the other people in Off Topic and some other forums. It consumes
their time and becomes their life. It is an addiction and that is unhealthy. Online forums are a great outlet to connect with others, to toss around
ideas and especially information on Baja, as on The BajaNomad. But putting Dennis' huge traumatic life changing event in perspective, we are way down
the list of priorities. We want information of his well being, but we do not need to know all the details of his personal life going forward.
I am stuck in Northern California and currently having Chemotherapy treatment, or I would come down there to do the following:
Talk to the Hospital Management, or maybe the volunteer staff would know, but a certified Ombudsman needs to witness the agreement
between Dennis and Janene, make an assessment, and follow up on how much "take charge" power he wants her to have. That could all change or blow up in
an instant, given their emotional history and expressed resentment. The Ombudsman needs to be physically present in the room with the two of them.
After setting this up, I would then Butt Out!!
This is NOT a personal indictment by me of Janene. I do not know her, and she seems to be doing a great thing for Dennis. But...given all the bad
blood history that had been previously aired here in public, I am uncomfortable and it raises questions about her motivation. It is only a question.
She is probably a very honorable person.
Another thing that complicates all of this is the recent huge change in Dennis' health. It is still too new. He can't realize all the future needs. As
Janene says, "he is in denial".
So, other than the Ombudsman assessment, Dennis needs to rest and recuperate. No stress!!! Let Dennis reach out to the people he wishes to visit him
and on his schedule. He can make phone calls, I presume. He can ask friends to get him phone numbers of people whose numbers he doesn't have with him
right now. In my opinion, all the well meaning Nomad visitors are overwhelming him and interfering with his rest and opportunity to heal. It is all
too soon!
Granted, Janene is the only one who is stepping up. Maybe someone else will step up and relieve her from the difficult commitment of following through
and setting up his house for his return, (with Dennis' permission). Janene is giving mixed signals about wanting to have to do this. She presents it
as a necessary task that must be done (which it is).
That is my opinion. Hopefully this is all going the best way possible, with Janene's help and my skepticism is unfounded and unnecessary.
I still look forward to invading Shari's compound with Dennis, he with his bongos and me with my trumpet. Be careful what you wish for, Shari. 
Dennis, get well, Amigo!
Tony
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woody with a view
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we'll all be there for that FIESTA, Tony!
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durrelllrobert
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Even though I am DENNIS's other neighbor and the BN that first notified EnsenadaDr I have stayed off this thread mainly because I am in Canada now and
only know what I read on this board. However, when persons start posting about the impropriety of giving out personal information on this subject I
must refer them to all of the posts by certain hate mongers about Janens personal life on the OT board. 
Bob Durrell
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TMW
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
I am stuck in Northern California and currently having Chemotherapy treatment
I still look forward to invading Shari's compound with Dennis, he with his bongos and me with my trumpet. Be careful what you wish for, Shari.
Dennis, get well, Amigo!
Tony |
Tony here is wishing you the best too so you and Dennis can upset Shari's world.
TW
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SFandH
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Granted, Janene is the only one who is stepping up. Tony |
A poster named FDT has visited DENNIS if I remember his post correctly.
Best of luck to you and DENNIS.
[Edited on 6-22-2012 by SFandH]
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David K
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That is 'Ferna de Tijuana'/ FDT (Fernando). Didn't Doug go too ('BajaNomad')?
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Lindalou
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quite a few people have gone to visit, not all Nomads.
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EnsenadaDr
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Just spoke to DENNIS, he says the new rehab is like a graveyard...I joked with him and told him the only difference between Gordos and the rehab is
that the patients don't have a beer in their hands...anyway he wants me to bring the charger up for his KINDLE, he says his right hand is fine..so
maybe he will post something in the next few days....
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BajaBlanca
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Dennis, glad you will be reading all this LATER. Holy smokes, Batman. What a lot of strife.
GET BETTER SOON !! then no one has to make decisions on your behalf at all.
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David K
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Good for you Dennis!
Get back here on Nomad so I don't get too far ahead of you in the post count battle!!
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