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Bajaboy
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Okay, so got the truck back today. The crack was near a stress point near motor mount on driver side. The shop owner took my truck and consulted
withe the guys at Toyota and decided extra reinforcing was necessary. The shop said the frame is as strong as ever and I feel better. Total cost was
$350. I highly recommend Collision Experts in Lemon Grove.
Time to finish packing for a Thursday departure.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Okay, so got the truck back today. The crack was near a stress point near motor mount on driver side. The shop owner took my truck and consulted
withe the guys at Toyota and decided extra reinforcing was necessary. The shop said the frame is as strong as ever and I feel better. Total cost was
$350. I highly recommend Collision Experts in Lemon Grove.
Time to finish packing for a Thursday departure. |
so did they put a doubler in to make it stronger. or just weld the crack?
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Okay, so got the truck back today. The crack was near a stress point near motor mount on driver side. The shop owner took my truck and consulted
withe the guys at Toyota and decided extra reinforcing was necessary. The shop said the frame is as strong as ever and I feel better. Total cost was
$350. I highly recommend Collision Experts in Lemon Grove.
Time to finish packing for a Thursday departure. |
so did they put a doubler in to make it stronger. or just weld the crack? |
I'm not quite sure what a
doubler is....but he did say something to the effect of three reinforcements. That is they welded the crack first and then welded reinforcement in
three places? Maybe you can interpret my gibberish
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basically a backing plate that is bolted or welded in place over the crack
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Okay, so got the truck back today. The crack was near a stress point near motor mount on driver side. The shop owner took my truck and consulted
withe the guys at Toyota and decided extra reinforcing was necessary. The shop said the frame is as strong as ever and I feel better. Total cost was
$350. I highly recommend Collision Experts in Lemon Grove.
Time to finish packing for a Thursday departure. |
I am glad you were able to resolve this problem. Looking at it from my perspective, a vehicle that is paid for is less expensive to insure and
operate than a brand-new one. If possible, you should nurse the one you have rather than take out a large loan on one that you "want." It is great
to hear that your expenditure was less than $500.
That said, have a great time on your trip to Baja - either in the Ford pickup or in your Toyota. I hope you create a nice trip thread when you get
back. I'll be checking to see all of the nice places you and your family went.
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Bajaboy
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Thanks Ken...I am not in the mood for a new truck at the moment and was pleased to resolve the problem. I'm looking forward to a very quick trip to
our place in Asuncion with my son. We'll also camp a couple of nights on the way down and back. Report to follow.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
California used to be one of the best school systems... When I had children using it, I discovered a total change from school of the late 1960's and
early 70's (and no vouchers for us working folks to use private schools, like the elite politicians use for their kids). |
One of the main reasons is because we spend less than most states and you get what you pay for...or what repeated tax cuts give you
http://www.edsource.org/data-ca-per-pupil-exp-compare-states... |
Congrats on the frame repair, and report-----sounds like you made the best decision to me.
On the "money spent per student" as the "main cause" of our low rating in results---------I don't buy that for a second!!! You cannot equate
"results" with "money spent" in my opinion. It is the quality of Teaching methodology (not necessarily the quality of the teachers) that is the
"main" problem, IMO.
Barry
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
California used to be one of the best school systems... When I had children using it, I discovered a total change from school of the late 1960's and
early 70's (and no vouchers for us working folks to use private schools, like the elite politicians use for their kids). |
One of the main reasons is because we spend less than most states and you get what you pay for...or what repeated tax cuts give you
http://www.edsource.org/data-ca-per-pupil-exp-compare-states... |
Congrats on the frame repair, and report-----sounds like you made the best decision to me.
On the "money spent per student" as the "main cause" of our low rating in results---------I don't buy that for a second!!! You cannot equate
"results" with "money spent" in my opinion. It is the quality of Teaching methodology (not necessarily the quality of the teachers) that is the
"main" problem, IMO.
Barry
Barry |
Thanks Barry. Do think a teacher would be more effective with 20, 30, or 40 students?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
On the "money spent per student" as the "main cause" of our low rating in results---------I don't buy that for a second!!! You cannot equate
"results" with "money spent" in my opinion. It is the quality of Teaching methodology (not necessarily the quality of the teachers) that is the
"main" problem, IMO.
Barry
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Barry - Do you teach Science by doing or by reading about it? Are both the same or are they mutually exclusive? What is your opinion?
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
California used to be one of the best school systems... When I had children using it, I discovered a total change from school of the late 1960's and
early 70's (and no vouchers for us working folks to use private schools, like the elite politicians use for their kids). |
One of the main reasons is because we spend less than most states and you get what you pay for...or what repeated tax cuts give you
http://www.edsource.org/data-ca-per-pupil-exp-compare-states... |
Congrats on the frame repair, and report-----sounds like you made the best decision to me.
On the "money spent per student" as the "main cause" of our low rating in results---------I don't buy that for a second!!! You cannot equate
"results" with "money spent" in my opinion. It is the quality of Teaching methodology (not necessarily the quality of the teachers) that is the
"main" problem, IMO.
Barry
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Thanks Barry. Do think a teacher would be more effective with 20, 30, or 40 students? |
I am not sure. Almost all my classes back in the '50's and '60's had at least 30 per class, and we seemed to do ok back then.
Barry
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
On the "money spent per student" as the "main cause" of our low rating in results---------I don't buy that for a second!!! You cannot equate
"results" with "money spent" in my opinion. It is the quality of Teaching methodology (not necessarily the quality of the teachers) that is the
"main" problem, IMO.
Barry
Barry |
Barry - Do you teach Science by doing or by reading about it? Are both the same or are they mutually exclusive? What is your opinion?
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I don't understand your question, Ken. What does "mutually exclusive" mean ? (I never have understood that term). In high school, we did
both-------read, and "doing". Same in College, as I remember.
I am not sure what that has to do with "money spent"?
Barry
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"mutually exclusive"? See "plastic language".
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
California used to be one of the best school systems... When I had children using it, I discovered a total change from school of the late 1960's and
early 70's (and no vouchers for us working folks to use private schools, like the elite politicians use for their kids). |
One of the main reasons is because we spend less than most states and you get what you pay for...or what repeated tax cuts give you
http://www.edsource.org/data-ca-per-pupil-exp-compare-states... |
Congrats on the frame repair, and report-----sounds like you made the best decision to me.
On the "money spent per student" as the "main cause" of our low rating in results---------I don't buy that for a second!!! You cannot equate
"results" with "money spent" in my opinion. It is the quality of Teaching methodology (not necessarily the quality of the teachers) that is the
"main" problem, IMO.
Barry
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Thanks Barry. Do think a teacher would be more effective with 20, 30, or 40 students? |
I am not sure. Almost all my classes back in the '50's and '60's had at least 30 per class, and we seemed to do ok back then.
Barry |
And most of my classes today have upwards of 37 students. How about we fund education to go back to 30 students per class Now you might have to give up some of that hard earned pension that you're asking
new hires to go without.....
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
California used to be one of the best school systems... When I had children using it, I discovered a total change from school of the late 1960's and
early 70's (and no vouchers for us working folks to use private schools, like the elite politicians use for their kids). |
One of the main reasons is because we spend less than most states and you get what you pay for...or what repeated tax cuts give you
http://www.edsource.org/data-ca-per-pupil-exp-compare-states... |
Congrats on the frame repair, and report-----sounds like you made the best decision to me.
On the "money spent per student" as the "main cause" of our low rating in results---------I don't buy that for a second!!! You cannot equate
"results" with "money spent" in my opinion. It is the quality of Teaching methodology (not necessarily the quality of the teachers) that is the
"main" problem, IMO.
Barry
Barry |
Thanks Barry. Do think a teacher would be more effective with 20, 30, or 40 students? |
I am not sure. Almost all my classes back in the '50's and '60's had at least 30 per class, and we seemed to do ok back then.
Barry |
And most of my classes today have upwards of 37 students. How about we fund education to go back to 30 students per class Now you might have to give up some of that hard earned pension that you're asking
new hires to go without..... |
Well, yes, there are some hard choices that have to be made. My point is that I don't think "more money" is the answer, as I have said. When you
compare the amt. of money spent per student today with what we spent back in the '50's, and then look at the apparent results, something is terribly
wrong, and it is an admitted very complicated issue starting with the home life of the students, and the attitude of both parents and students that
they have these days.
I am NOT willing to give up "some of my pension", or sacrifice any of the still-working's future pensions either, until the spending is reduced thru
better/smarter methodology and curriculum in the schools, and at home, and everywhere in-be-tween. The present situation in the schools is so bad
that both my grandkids were "home-schooled" until they entered High School, and they did NOT end up "maladjusted" socially---just the opposite, and
they both graduated cum-laude , in both High School and College.
barry
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Bajaboy
You may someday see a little of the Social Security for which you worked and paid for---
The system punishes one for working and not for passive earnings.
We both receive Social Security, but it is greatly reduced because we also receive pensions from CalSTRS for teaching in the public schools and from
PERS for teaching in the California State Prisons- -all of which we worked hard to earn and paid into every month. For both of us, many of the Social
Security quarters were as self-employed and as independent contractors which meant we paid both sides of the tax.
However, our Social Security was NOT reduced at all by the passive income we receive from dividends and interest.
So those who were born into the lucky sperm club can work enough to earn the required quarters for Social Security and receive full benefits.
You mentioned reduced class sizes----and it is the answer to so much---- the schools would need far fewer support staff with classes of 20 mas o
menos.
One cannot compare the CA schools to what they were in the 1950s --- they are different. In the Fresno area we were dealing with students with 40+
different languages as their first language. Great for diversity, difficult to give the individual attention that is needed when faced with 180
students every day.
Then again, some people will continue to blame all of the problems they had with their children on the schools.
Hope the frame on your truck is welded well. Road into BA is not that bad in most areas, but there are some killer potholes. And the water has been
off for a few days----hopefully it will be back SOON.
[Edited on 5-23-2012 by DianaT]
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Of course, absolutely and with guaranteed certainty...
The plight of undereducated public school students is NOT due to any influence parents may have in insuring that their children do their homework and
understand it.
That can't be it! It cannot possibly be because far too many parents are not willing to take the time away from watching the boob tube, guzzling beer,
and B.S.'ing to keep track of where their children should be education-wise.
It's impossible for a parent to ascertain reading comprehension or math skills of their child. That is the job of......of.....somebody.
And they sure as hell will not point fingers as to who is at fault for causing little Sammy or Sandy to limit themselves flipping burgers for a
living.
[Edited on 5-23-2012 by DavidE]
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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This is a pretty cool site.http://www.khanacademy.org/ |
Agreed!
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I still have a Toyota Tacoma and saw this thread on a "frame crack", and since we've been traveling for over a week and away from any sort of internet
communication I haven't seen this topic.
Thinking that it would benefit me to see the last page (no. fifteen [with my parameters] at this writing) first to see where all the discussion lay, I
clicked on page 15.
Nothing, zilch, zero, nada related to any cracks in a Toyota Tacoma frame. Now the topic seems to deal with education—of a sorts.
Ahhhhh, internet forums. Aren't they great?
Oh well, I'll dig back in the thread and see where the information is about the Tacoma. Maybe I'll mine something of value.
Carry on.
Allen R
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The frame is apparently fixed! Now we can get back to the original intent of this thread..Discussing stuff that has nothing to do with the theme...I
have a cure for the common cold and cancer..Lets talk about that....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
The frame is apparently fixed! Now we can get back to the original intent of this thread..Discussing stuff that has nothing to do with the theme...I
have a cure for the common cold and cancer..Lets talk about that.... |
Please forward the "cures" via U2U.
thank you
Barry
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