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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 05:45 AM


is there any one on line from La Paz or south that can give a currant report?



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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 06:09 AM


been trying to raise pino in vinorama and some others down in that area without luck......still no word from lou who is also close to vinorama.....same with cabo pulmo........as soon as I hear something I will post. Lou at least was sending us regular e-mails every hour or so yesterday.



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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 06:13 AM


I'm sure the power is off but some may have backup power and no telephone service. or there dishes may be gone.



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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 06:13 AM


7:00 a.m. in Loreto and telephone and electic service still intact. Intermittent heavy rains throughout the night. At daybreak there are gusty 15 - 20 knot winds from the NNE and thick layered clouds to the west. Except in heavy rains the outline of Carmen can be seen to the east. I have not been up to the arroyo south of town, but I imagine that it will be awhile until those of us in Colonia Zaragosa make it in to el centro.
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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 06:25 AM


Hopefully we will hear something soon from that area. Most of our customers in that area have double redundant power systems....I suspect the dishes may be out of whack and hope it's not worse than that.



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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 06:51 AM


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7:00 a.m. in Loreto and telephone and electic service still intact. Intermittent heavy rains throughout the night. At daybreak there are gusty 15 - 20 knot winds from the NNE and thick layered clouds to the west. Except in heavy rains the outline of Carmen can be seen to the east. I have not been up to the arroyo south of town, but I imagine that it will be awhile until those of us in Colonia Zaragosa make it in to el centro.


thanks Bill you are the furthest south person I have been able to reach.

the weather here is about the same as yours but a little less breeze




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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 06:57 AM
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This is looking south into an oncoming John around 7:30 this morning from the panga playa in Colonia Zaragosa (Loreto). My boats are under cover about 10 feet higher than these pangas and I am worried. I hope that the pangueros know something I dont.
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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 07:00 AM


nice photos..thanks...check out how loaded with silt the water is from land runoff.

Been trying to ping some of our customers modems in the area without luck.




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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 07:08 AM
A glimpse of Carmen between squalls


I guess they will have to reschedule that dorado tournament.
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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 07:09 AM


It doesn't look good for La Paz and points south.



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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 07:13 AM


Bill,
thanks for the photo. Been watching the for the latest postings from you guys [gals :"Pam"]....

~A friend of mine had left Nor.Cal this morning headed to Tripui, I warned him of the flood problems on the hiway.

Please keep us up-dated on the latest....Thanks Marty
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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 07:25 AM


HURRICANE JOHN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 20A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP112006
500 AM PDT SAT SEP 02 2006

...JOHN WEAKENS BUT STILL A HURRICANE...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT ALONG COAST OF THE BAJA CALIFORNIA
PENINSULA FROM MULEGE SOUTHWARD ALONG THE EAST COAST...AND FROM
PUNTA ABREOJOS SOUTHWARD ALONG THE WEST COAST. PREPARATIONS TO
PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE COMPLETED.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE EAST COAST
OF THE BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA NORTH OF MULEGE TO BAHIA SAN JUAN
BAUTISTA. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24
HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE WEST COAST OF THE
BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA NORTH OF PUNTA ABREOJOS TO PUNTA
EUGENIA...AND FOR THE COAST OF MAINLAND MEXICO FROM ALTATA TO
GUAYMAS. A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM
CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY
WITHIN 36 HOURS.

INTERESTS ELSEWHERE IN AND NEAR THE GULF OF CALIFORNIA...BAJA
CALIFORNIA....AND NORTHWESTERN MEXICO SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS
OF JOHN.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 500 AM PDT...1200Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE JOHN WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 24.3 NORTH...LONGITUDE 110.5 WEST OR ABOUT 10
MILES...15 KM... NORTH-NORTHWEST OF LA PAZ MEXICO.

JOHN IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 9 MPH...15 KM/HR...
AND THIS GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24
HOURS. ON THIS TRACK THE CENTER OF JOHN SHOULD MOVE NEAR OR OVER
THE EAST COAST OF THE BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA TODAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE DECREASED TO NEAR 85 MPH...160
KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. THESE WINDS ARE CONFINED TO A SMALL
AREA NEAR THE CENTER. JOHN IS A CATEGORY ONE HURRICANE ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. FURTHER WEAKENING IS FORECAST AS JOHN
INTERACTS WITH LAND DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 25 MILES...35 KM...FROM
THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 85
MILES...140 KM.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 975 MB...28.79 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF UP TO 5 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE
EXPECTED IN AREAS OF ONSHORE FLOW NEAR THE PATH OF THE CENTER OF
THE HURRICANE.

RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 6 TO 12 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM STORM
TOTALS UP TO 18 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND
SOUTHERN BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA AND THE WEST COAST OF MEXICO FROM
LA CRUZ TO GUAYMAS. THESE RAINS COULD CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH
FLOODS AND MUD SLIDES OVER AREAS OF MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN.

REPEATING THE 500 AM PDT POSITION...24.3 N...110.5 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHWEST NEAR 9 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...85
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...975 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
800 AM PDT.
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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 07:27 AM


Bill, and Pam The updates, and fotos are much appreciated. What is with the pangas still on the beach? As Pam says, are good friends in Loreto do wait till the last minuto. Keep us posted. --- it looks like it will be a long day.
thanks, Bob
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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 07:28 AM


Just got this from Lou but it's time stamped 11:30PM Local from last night:

HURICAN JUAN- 9-1-06 11:30PM

DEAREST AMIGOS- HOPING ALL HAVE COME THRU THIS W/O MAJOR PROBLEMS. OUR PRAYERS ARE W/ THOSE IN THE LA VINO RAMA , BOCA DE TULE, LOS FRAILES, CABO PULMO AND LA PAZ AS THIS SYSTEM PASSES THRU.

WE EXPERIENCED 56 MPH WINDS AT 7 PM AND HAVE REC,D 3.91 INCHES RAIN. WINDS ARE STILL 25-40 MPH RANGE.

PLS LET US KNOW YOUR RAINFALL TOTALS ETC SO I CAN PASS THEM ON.

JUST LOOKED OUT SIDE AROUND THE YARD , A SCENE I,VE SEEN A FEW TIMES BEFORE VERY MESSY, BUT WE ARE THKFUL THAT EL SENOR SPARED US ANY PERSONAL INJURY AND DAMAGE [ THIS AM WE WILL DRIVING AROUND TO ASSESS DAMAGE AND REPORT BACK WHAT WE,VE SEEN.

MUCHISSIMO GRACIAS FOR ALL THOSE WHO GIVEN THEIR INPUT INTO THIS STORM. I THINK WE,VE LEARNED A FEW THINGS. IT WAS VERY FRUSTRATING YESTERDAY WAITING FOR THE STORM TO HIT MUCH EARLIER THAN IT DID.

QUE DIOS LOS BENDIGA-CUIDATE MUCHO-LOU -=-

And this is from Rick in Elias calles:

well last night it got a little worse,i would say that i probably have not seen 50 mile a hour winds,it looks like we got around 1.5 inches of rain,,, the ocean is brown and choppy, after i get the tv going later we will take a ride,,but it dosen't look like a water is coming down the arroyo which i can see from my bedroom,,,, i would say your place is perfect,, but will get there when we get out,,, so for now it all looks good,, will get back

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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 07:32 AM


"Funny" how hurricanes were low on my list of concerns when I fell in love with and decided to put the bulk of my extra money into a little chunk of a date orchard in an ARROYO. We've survived three so far in 13 years. This one could go either way. Kind of tough to worry about all that work from 1300 miles away.

We are sending our very best and strongest "vibes" to the wonderful people of San Nicolas. They have far more to lose than we ever will.

Good luck to all the Nomads down there. I'll be checking back as soon as I get back from my inspection today. Fingers crossed. (That'll help a lot!)




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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 07:32 AM
Loreto 8:30AM


Loreto 8:30AM



Rain off and on since 3 or so AM, heavy at times. Lots of water in the streets. The arroyo north on Davis St is running hard, assume the same for the south ones. No real wind yet. John is still well south, but still an H.

Kudos to CFE; power went out twice, once for maybe an hour and once for 5 minutes. Used to take them the better part of a week.
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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 07:36 AM


This was from a friend in Los Barriles at 9:48 pm last night, they are the second row of homes from the waters edge:

We are on the generator, phone lines still up. We are being pounded......very badly....catagory 2.....right on us. We have water everywhere in the house. Karen stayed at her place....it is coming apart.....roof leaking badly, windows broken...sliding glass door broken.....everything is wet at her house....Her new apt. is ruined...all the windows broke. They are scared but have a safe place. Will get over as soon as we can in the morning.

Will try to write more Saturday when we can see the damage.




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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 08:04 AM


Based on coordinates posted by the National Hurricane center at 0000, 0200, 0500 and 0800 this morning local time, each of which they claim accurate within 20 miles, John has turned west and is now moving inland on a course of 315 degrees, or NW. If this course remains unchanged John will continue across the peninsula and emerge into the Pacific about 40 miles north of Cabo San Lazaro. This would be nice for Loreto, but not so nice for Puerto Lopez Mateo.
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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 08:08 AM


is there any further word from the east cape/los barriles area this am ? power and phones are probably down.
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[*] posted on 9-2-2006 at 08:10 AM


HURRICANE JOHN ADVISORY NUMBER 21
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP112006
800 AM PDT SAT SEP 02 2006

...JOHN LASHING BAJA CALIFORNIA WITH HIGH WINDS AND HEAVY RAIN...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT ALONG COAST OF THE BAJA CALIFORNIA
PENINSULA FROM MULEGE SOUTHWARD ALONG THE EAST COAST...AND FROM
PUNTA ABREOJOS SOUTHWARD ALONG THE WEST COAST.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE EAST COAST
OF THE BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA NORTH OF MULEGE TO BAHIA SAN JUAN
BAUTISTA. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24
HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE WEST COAST OF THE
BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA NORTH OF PUNTA ABREOJOS TO PUNTA
EUGENIA...AND FOR THE COAST OF MAINLAND MEXICO FROM ALTATA TO
GUAYMAS. A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM
CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY
WITHIN 36 HOURS.

INTERESTS ELSEWHERE IN AND NEAR THE GULF OF CALIFORNIA...BAJA
CALIFORNIA....AND NORTHWESTERN MEXICO SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS
OF JOHN.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 800 AM PDT...1500Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE JOHN WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 24.5 NORTH...LONGITUDE 110.8 WEST OR ABOUT 40 MILES...
60 KM...WEST-NORTHWEST OF LA PAZ MEXICO AND ABOUT 110 MILES...175
KM...SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF LORETO MEXICO.

JOHN IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 9 MPH...15 KM/HR. ON THIS
TRACK THE CENTER OF JOHN SHOULD BE MOVING NEAR OR OVER THE EAST
COAST OF THE BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA TODAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE DECREASED TO NEAR 80 MPH...130
KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS AND THESE WINDS ARE CONFINED TO A SMALL
AREA NEAR THE CENTER. JOHN IS A CATEGORY ONE HURRICANE ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. FURTHER WEAKENING IS LIKELY AS THE HURRICANE
INTERACTS WITH LAND.

JOHN IS A SMALL TROPICAL CYCLONE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND
OUTWARD UP TO 25 MILES...35 KM...FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL
STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 85 MILES...140 KM.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 980 MB...28.94 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF UP TO 3 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE
EXPECTED IN AREAS OF ONSHORE FLOW NEAR THE PATH OF THE CENTER OF
THE HURRICANE.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 6 TO 12 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM STORM
TOTALS UP TO 18 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE OVER THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN
BAJA PENINSULA. THE WEST COAST OF MEXICO FROM LA CRUZ TO GUAYMAS
COULD SEE 3 TO 6 INCHES OF RAIN WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM TOTALS OF 10
INCHES. THESE AMOUNTS COULD CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS
AND MUDSLIDES OVER MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN.

REPEATING THE 800 AM PDT POSITION...24.5 N...110.8 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHWEST NEAR 9 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...80 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...980 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 1100 AM PDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 200
PM PDT.
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