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gnukid
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Well done, thanks for pointing out the false bad spanish technique, sometimes I use it right back! Que? Pos-nomemolestes-pos, por-que nomeconoces-pos?
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Peloncito
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So, I already posted my southern direction experience in C.C. getting hit up for the mordida. This time, heading north, my wife was driving and I was
armed with my camera. I told my wife to stop at every signal (even if it was green), every stop sign and every crosswalk.
I looked up and saw a woman walking across the center lane of traffic in the middle of a block, outside of the crosswalks. I told my wife to hang back
because this looked like it could be a potential hazard for those of us driving through lately.
Unfortunately, a fellow Baja tourist and possibly a registered Nomad, drove past us on the right frontage road easily under the speed limit. Even
though the pedestrian was completely across the center lane the police truck pulled in behind the maroon Ford and pulled them over. I can only
speculate that the police pulled over the California plated vehicle for not stopping for the woman crossing the street, but it seemed like a possible
reason for the extortion process.
I took the photo of the harassment, police looked over at me as we drove by and we were out of there, no mordida this time through. If the driver of
the Ford Explorer is a member here, I hope you talked your way out of the fine!
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Iflyfish
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Peloncito
Thank you very much for this post. I hope that the guy who was stopped was a Nomad who reads this thread. Good job on taking the photos.
There is strength in numbers and we have numbers.
Again I want to thank you for posting your experience. It's nice to know that as Nomads we cover each others backs.
I notice that the truck is numbered 008.
First round is on me!!
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Iflyfish
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Baja&Back
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Location: Vancouver, Canada / todo de Baja
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Mood: Rarin' to go South!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
What I as a long time Guest of Baja Sur resent is the complete Audicity of People like you who come to Baja and insist that the People change to your
way of thinking __Just for Money>????
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Hey, Skeet, nothing to do with "way of thinking" - the law is the law.
It is illegal in the Republic of Mexico to extort or receive a bribe. It is illegal to OFFER a bribe.
Both parties here are committing a Federal offence!!
President Calderon has spent his entire tenure fighting corruption like this.
Maybe best to send the President your letters.
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Iflyfish
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Iflyfish
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Anyone been thru the gauntlet recently? How did it go? Good news is also welcome!
Iflyfish
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monoloco
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Drove through there a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday, no problema.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
Drove through there a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday, no problema. |
They're saving you for later.
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ncampion
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I have to go to La Paz in a week or so. I'm thinking about removing my license plates, that way I'll look just like a Mexican and maybe they'll leave
me alone this time through.
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monoloco
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Maybe it's because the last time they extorted me I took up a lot of their time and they got a little nervous when I started counting out the feria
from my ashtray.
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Udo
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Counting feria from the ash tray...now, that's a classic that we all can use.
Udo
Youth is wasted on the young!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
I have to go to La Paz in a week or so. I'm thinking about removing my license plates, that way I'll look just like a Mexican and maybe they'll leave
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Probably not. I'm sure that's a CC felony. "Pay double for you."
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Iflyfish
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Anyone been through Ciudad Constitution lately? How was your trip through that town? Both good and bad experiences are helpful to hear about.
Thanks,
Iflyfish
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roamingthroughbaja
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Friends from Calgary drove through 3 weeks ago no problems. Friends from Washington DC drove through on Tuesday, no problems.
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Iflyfish
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Thanks roamingthroughbaja!
This is good news!!! Thanks very much for the update.
I hope others too will post their experiences.
Iflyfish
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Frank
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Ill post my experience from Verdugos Bar in a few days!
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karenintx
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Wanted to share an email I just received from our friends that traveled through CC last week.
My wife and I left Cabo San Lucas about 7am on Wed., July 21 heading for San Diego. We were very impressed with the road construction progress from
Cabo to Todos Santos and beyond. Because of all the information on Baja Nomad regarding the mordita in Insurgentes and Constitucion, we stopped in
La Paz for gas eliminating the need to stop for gas in those cities. I watched my speed, stopped at all the stop signs and stop lights......it took
us longer to get through there because of it, which wasn't a problem as we weren't in any hurry. We didn't see a police officer in either
town.....weird....wondered if the recent protest had something to do with it or if they were having lunch as it was about 1pm. Anyway no problems at
all. We got to Guerrero Nego about 7:30pm Pacific Time, stayed at the Don Gus Motel and had dinner at their restaurant. We have stayed there before
enjoying the people and the food in their restaurant. We continued on Thurs. morning about 7am and headed for Ensenada. There was lots of
construction along the way so it also took us longer than usual. Think there will be a major improvements on the road........We arrived in Ensenada
without a problem, staying at the Casa Del Sol. We left there about 8am the next morning getting in the line to cross the border about 9:30am and not
getting through until 10:50......wasn't too bad -- at least it wasn't terribly hot! No problem getting through the border............So all in all we
had a great trip. Hope this settles some fears that others may have on the long journey north.
Their return trip will be in about three months so I will ask for a road report when coming south.
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DENNIS
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I believe it will take a span of time without extortion to convince the traveling public that things have changed although positive stories like the
one above are promising.
Thanks, Karen.
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Iflyfish
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Thank you for your very interesting and informative post. I hope that people will continue to post their experiences, both good and bad, traveling
thru Ciudad Constitution. Dennis is right about it taking time to see if this extortion of US Citizens by Police in Ciudad Constitution has really
stopped. We have all learned from these posts that there are successful ways to deal with this criminal behavior if it happens. You can read a summary
of our collective currrent strategy for dealing with this issue below.
If you are stopped by police in Ciudad Constitution and threatened with a ticket for something you did not do then please report the details to:
American Citizen Services
US Consulate General Tijuana
ACSTijuana@state.gov
If you are stopped by a policeman in CC and they try to extort money from you , this approach that has been used successfully to stop this crime.
Come to a complete stop at ALL intersections, look both ways to make sure no pedestrians in cross walks. Follow the 18 mph speed limit. If stopped do
the following:
1. stay calm, take your time
2. ask for name and badge number, write these down, do not surrender your drivers license
3. let cop know you are calling Sr. Villalejos, Sub-director de Policia, at 613-100-1910
4. insist that you go to the station NOW and deal with the fine
5. Since the police office is reportedly closed on Sunday, travel thru Ciudad Constitution on M-Sat.
6. remain calm, confident and clear. Follow thru.
7. Drive in the right hand lane and look local, don't make eye contact with a cop.
8. Let every one you know that there is a serious problem with police extortion on the ONLY highway that connects Baja N with Baja S and that each day
the city of Ciudad Constitution loses thousands of dollars in lost revenue because of this.
Iflyfish
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