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Hopefully this will help stop the continued flood of drugs trucked from Mexico through the US and into Canada. This was just the latest massive bust
that came from Jalisco New Generation Cartel. I'm sure the Canadian Police can provide the US authorities info on where they let them in on the
southern border:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-police-cocain...
This follows this one from just 3 weeks ago:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/crime-border-alberta-...
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Many tentacles, many victims. I don't want this in my city. IDed as a terrorist organization might prove effective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4JEFNxKdaY
Biden pardoned almost 2,500 drug criminals. I'm sure many of those were reduced sentences, plea bargained for lesser crimes. They are now on the
streets - I don't expect them to get jobs at McDonalds now. No - back to their criminal enterprise with more gangs, drugs, illegals willing to do
business with them. Surabi - you're counting overdose deaths? Don't cherry-pick one instance and point a finger - you know where the drugs come
from? who's making them? how much is crossing the border every day? the network?
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JZ
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Leave it to the good old NYT's:
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  | Oh, just great, more blood, more murders. A never-ending war....again. If the US military participates, and if it's a success, as soon as victory is
declared and the troops leave, the cartels will be right back at it, feeding American drug users.
I'm totally against having US "boots on the ground" in Mexico, killing Mexicans. Totally. Totally. Totally.
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Think you're right about cartels being ''right back at it,'' but don't read what you think the solution is.
Aren't US addicts the real problem? The US can't help them?
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | Oh, just great, more blood, more murders. A never-ending war....again. If the US military participates, and if it's a success, as soon as victory is
declared and the troops leave, the cartels will be right back at it, feeding American drug users.
I'm totally against having US "boots on the ground" in Mexico, killing Mexicans. Totally. Totally. Totally.
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Think you're right about cartels being ''right back at it,'' but don't read what you think the solution is.
Aren't US addicts the real problem? The US can't help them? |
Too few offer solutions here. Just same old complaining unfortunately
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An invasion of Mexico? I think the chance of that happening is about zero. President Trump will work well with the Mexican government, just like he
did with the last Mexican government. The 'remain in Mexico' policy will be reinstated for prospective immigrants. Designating the cartels as
terrorist organizations will allow the authorities in the US to go after the cartel assets more easily, among other things. It will also allow the US
to provide more aid to Mexico so that they can fight the cartels. My view, after seeing the cartels operate over many years, is that they are indeed
terrorist organizations. The Mexican nationals I have gotten to know, simply see the cartels as being evil.
I have been reading online that Mexicans who have been personally victimized by cartel violence have welcomed the new terrorist designation by the US,
in hopes of it leading to a change for the better in Mexico.
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You cant eliminate organiz3d crime and drugs. As long as Americans seek drugs, suppliers will fill the demand.
Whack down the mexican cartels, they will be replaced by american or chinese crime organizations. Endless game of whack a mole.
The designation is really all just theatrics by trump admin. RFK Jr is a former heroin dealer who today promotes cooky antivax fringe ideas, and
trump is appointing him health czar. Go figure. RFK Jr appointment indicates Trump admin does not care about health or drug deaths of Americans.
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Eliminate it? Probably not. History seems to indicate this is true. Still, I think a good improvement could be made. I look back at 1920s Chicago as
an example. Crime, violence, murder were out of control. Innocent bystanders were being hit and killed in crossfire. Numerous bombings. Organized
crime controlled police and justice to a terrifying extent. Enter 'the untouchables', a relatively small group determined to make things better. They
succeeded, and so can Mexico. Sure, there is still crime, and over the decades there has been the ebb and flow of good and bad; seemingly one of the
hallmarks of the human race. Was 1930s and later Chicago better off by the efforts of those who tried? I think yes.
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| Quote: Originally posted by cupcake | Eliminate it? Probably not. History seems to indicate this is true. Still, I think a good improvement could be made. I look back at 1920s Chicago as
an example. Crime, violence, murder were out of control. Innocent bystanders were being hit and killed in crossfire. Numerous bombings. Organized
crime controlled police and justice to a terrifying extent. Enter 'the untouchables', a relatively small group determined to make things better. They
succeeded, and so can Mexico. Sure, there is still crime, and over the decades there has been the ebb and flow of good and bad; seemingly one of the
hallmarks of the human race. Was 1930s and later Chicago better off by the efforts of those who tried? I think yes.
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Some prefer to throw their hands up and quit. You are right, hard work and effort would definitely pay off.
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Something really struck me during the last major election in Mexico (the election that included the office of President). The candidates that were
murdered before election day. Most, if not all of them knowing the danger they were subjecting themselves to by running for office. And yet, they
still ran. Those are some incredibly courageous people. Like those that changed Chicago (and really the entire US by example) in the 1920s and 1930s.
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Well Trump did pardon Ross Ulbricht who ran one of the worlds largest illegal drug market places (silk road). So he's obviously going to be hard on
the drug trade. Or not. Action v as words. The future is still TBD.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mjs | | Well Trump did pardon Ross Ulbricht who ran one of the worlds largest illegal drug market places |
I believe it was not a pardon, but rather his sentence was commuted to time served. If true, that is a significant difference.
I don't know exactly what Ulbricht was guilty of, as there are reports online that his website was used by others to sell drugs, and that he was a
fall guy for them. Apparently, Trump felt that 10 years was enough time for what he had done.
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I'd prefer having someone with those talents to create a fully encrypted dark web site out and working for law authorities than spending his life in
jail continuing to work for the dark side. Maybe after serving twelve years in jail he can be flipped to work for the CIA or NSA. Its been known to
happen before.
But two life sentences plus 40 years did seem a bit overdone.
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From what I am reading, it looks like Ulbricht just created the website which allowed the registered users to deal amongst themselves. Ulbricht may
have had no knowledge of the individual deals that were going on.
I don't know if Ulbricht received a commutation of sentence or a full pardon, but the original sentence might have been too harsh. Trump thought it
was "ridiculous".
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/21/politics/silk-road-ross-ulbri...
"The now-defunct marketplace allowed users to anonymously trade drugs and other illegal goods and services in near-total secrecy using bitcoin.
According to the indictment, Silk Road acquired nearly a million registered users worldwide, about 30% of whom were based in the US."
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JDCanuck
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I wonder if Telegraph and Signal will receive similar treatment. The fully encrypted messaging programs seem to be under attack because criminals can
hide in them. Whatsapp, and Messenger are already broken encryptions so are home free. There was one developed in Canada that was used by drug dealers
and following breaking the encryptions by Interpol a lot of drug operations were busted. The developer is now facing charges too.
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Some hikers in jacumba by the border (east county san diego) were shot at yesterday. They were hiking in mtns near the border, shot by some coyotes
or smugglers encountered on usa side of border. news called them cartel members and terrorists. One hiker shot in leg.
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Thanks for the heads-up.
American hikers come under cartel fire near border
https://fox5sandiego.com/news/border-report/american-hikers-...
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Will further bolster Trump's decision to send troops to the border.
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Typical Fox "news" report. How do they know it was cartel? It doesn't say anything about identifying the attackers, only about the victims, says an
investigation is underway.
Coulda been some trigger-happy MAGA thinking the hikers were illegal migrants.
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The source was of the report here:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/local-media-release/american-ci...
BORTAC and BORSTAR agents maintained a secure perimeter and tracked the assailants back to the border where they returned to Mexico
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