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[*] posted on 7-16-2005 at 09:35 AM
Gentlemen. Thank you


for setting the example for others on how to play nice. Hope the others take your lead. How refreshing to have someone step up to the plate and admit an error, it takes a big person to apologize, especially in a forum such as this. Yankee ,I like you, I don't always agree with you but I see you are a person of fine character. Bruce, I don't agree these things should be left on the board, but in this case it was a great teaching lesson. Gentlemen , Thanks again for a breath of fresh air,k:yes:



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lol.gif posted on 7-16-2005 at 09:58 AM
Yep, it's a regular episode


of "Leave it to Beaver" around here !:lol:
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[*] posted on 7-16-2005 at 10:43 AM
Yankeeirishman.....


Since I won't u2u either of you. Yank:


I expected less from you. Get it?

Flaming is subjective is it not?

Just a little advise from the sidelines if you are receptive to constructive critism and can interpret my opinion as such.

In my opinion you are definitely fighting(sic) with the wrong person.

Your entire message has been compromised, right or wrong by your childish retort.

It would be advantageous for you to take more time to respond and clarify yourself and your conduct your overtones in a mature manner.

If you continue posting this way(which I find particularily offensive) about issues using adjectives and nouns that are personally derogatory I will avoid entering the debate.

Your willingness to critisize others personally does not behoove you. You have given this forum a contribution in your interest in Baja and the others who post here. You should continue to do so.

You need to paint your threads in color and not black and white. You are trying to define the people behind the posts with your honorable intentions. Fortunately or unfortunately they listen or heed the warning. But when you paint the explanation so black and white, which you commonly do, it looses it's beauty. And you will be told, in so many words.
You made yourself a promise and others too that you would not let others beget your exposed nerve.
Think back amigo.
I can't be testimony for what was said but I am sure a smart tactical maneuver on your part may have defused the situation. Sometimes dear friend, patience and wise posting can defray and reverse a perceived or a subjective threat. Peoples safety is paramount but it's very wise to evaluate the threat and who's posting it.
I am not pretending to support or not support any bona-fide Nomad and feel that you, and a number of others herein are quite set on curtailing any veiled threats that are determined by who?
How?
While our speech is obviously screened and altered to omit profanity, the volumes of regular dialog would be risk. Moderators have to weigh the free speech angle with the more provocative language.
It appears the "big brother" who you indict constantly is over a barrel.
How do you approach and moderate highly subjective conversation. Moderators certainly admonish criminal behavior and to imply otherwise would be a disservice to the entire site and its sponsers.


How I feel about "real" physical threats? Very concerned.
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[*] posted on 7-16-2005 at 11:00 AM


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Originally posted by yankeeirishman
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Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
thank you and dittos to you. Friends again I hope. :saint:


You would fit right in with the rest of my brothers. We all do this debat'ta with each other...and still love each other.
"Friends again I hope?"...always was...brother:cool:


you know I had the same thoughts when we were slinging mud back and forth. This is just like my Brother and I, we fight all the time but let some one else pick on one of us and we are the best teem in the world.

How come we have Mothers day and fathers day but we don't have a brothers day?:?:




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[*] posted on 7-16-2005 at 11:14 AM


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Everyone has or had a mother.

Not everyone has or had a brother.


Good point:light: Hose A




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[*] posted on 7-16-2005 at 11:17 AM


I agree with Bruce!



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[*] posted on 7-17-2005 at 08:50 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Since I won't u2u either of you. Yank:


I expected less from you. Get it?

Flaming is subjective is it not?

Just a little advise from the sidelines if you are receptive to constructive critism and can interpret my opinion as such.

In my opinion you are definitely fighting(sic) with the wrong person.

Your entire message has been compromised, right or wrong by your childish retort.

It would be advantageous for you to take more time to respond and clarify yourself and your conduct your overtones in a mature manner.

If you continue posting this way(which I find particularily offensive) about issues using adjectives and nouns that are personally derogatory I will avoid entering the debate.

Your willingness to critisize others personally does not behoove you. You have given this forum a contribution in your interest in Baja and the others who post here. You should continue to do so.

You need to paint your threads in color and not black and white. You are trying to define the people behind the posts with your honorable intentions. Fortunately or unfortunately they listen or heed the warning. But when you paint the explanation so black and white, which you commonly do, it looses it's beauty. And you will be told, in so many words.
You made yourself a promise and others too that you would not let others beget your exposed nerve.
Think back amigo.
I can't be testimony for what was said but I am sure a smart tactical maneuver on your part may have defused the situation. Sometimes dear friend, patience and wise posting can defray and reverse a perceived or a subjective threat. Peoples safety is paramount but it's very wise to evaluate the threat and who's posting it.
I am not pretending to support or not support any bona-fide Nomad and feel that you, and a number of others herein are quite set on curtailing any veiled threats that are determined by who?
How?
While our speech is obviously screened and altered to omit profanity, the volumes of regular dialog would be risk. Moderators have to weigh the free speech angle with the more provocative language.
It appears the "big brother" who you indict constantly is over a barrel.
How do you approach and moderate highly subjective conversation. Moderators certainly admonish criminal behavior and to imply otherwise would be a disservice to the entire site and its sponsers.


How I feel about "real" physical threats? Very concerned.



.....I made one major misstate in my responses to Bruce. That was a misreading on his opinion about the legal insert of the law concerning the Net. (I swear he went back and edited that post) Kidding!
I stand to say?. The other inserts of remarks were more in line of flaming, done by Bruce. It looked like trolling, smelled like trolling. This is why I lashed out towards him. Perhaps my style of writing responses and/or posting is harsh, black and white?but I write with directs?. not the ol? office politics. My style can be incorrect at times, yes?as it is with Bruce, and many others?s here (you too). The reason why the vast numbers of us are still here after many battles?we never make lively threats with intent to harm.
As you read and ?saw??.I ended the fight with an apologized post to Bruce, on the subject of the Law. He accepted. This thread should have ended there, but some folks decide to play in their two cents well after the follies have ended. No personality evaluation was needed at this point by you. No harm was done?but the public got an education on some law facts, and HOW TO END A ON GOING FIGHT! We took this fight short of a day?not days. It was a good, mudslinging arena. Short and sweet. Non-continued to the future posting. Let?s compare that to others here that goes on for months!
Your style Sharksbaja.... is very cool, and laid back?in most cases. I do not attempt to tell you how to perform on the Nomads with your style. To tell me ?Your entire message has been compromised, right or wrong by your childish retort? and other remarks you made about me?is off base. I don?t need a spanking from you Sharksbaja. To make my point here with you?I haven?t fired back at you here. I wont. You simply posted your negative words of opinion about me that was not a continuing flaming and troll tactic. I can accept that by any other Nomad. But not the flames.
I post and respond to posts, with far too often positive remarks. To mark me with your negative opinion as posted here?is very off base. You indeed bypassed any and all types of positive remarks about me in your post (which I have surely earned), so I?ll have to take your post as being an lack of properly prepared evaluation. One sided. Your style of writing needs a letter (as the one you did to me) from yourself. Your entire message has been compromised, right or wrong by your childish retort too.




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