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jerry
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who cares
i can, have, and will, help mexican familys the way i choose i dont need a self apointed guru to tell me anything
who cares if jr has a split personality?? there are lots of freaks in this world that i dont give the time of day to have a good one
jerry and judi
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MrBillM
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Reading Comprehension
Nowhere did I say that I don't believe in HELPING the Mexican people (or anyone else for that matter). Note that my statement referred specifically
to JR's contention that all of the donations, etc. were stupid and that your responsibility is to teach them a trade. Try reading it again.
Is that what you're doing, Bruce ? Teaching them a trade ?
If you're simply giving them donations like Food, clothing, school supplies, necessities or you are hiring them to do work they already know, then you
are "Stupid" by JR's Gringo standard.
I will continue to do what I have done for over twenty years and that is to donate as I see a need that I can fulfill. Every trip I make South, I
take along a sizeable number of goods for donation. While that may make me "stupid" in JR's eyes, so what. I could care less what he thinks.
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JZ
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
ee88 what is with the attack?? I thought Jrbaja was trying to start a good thread here and you blasted it right out of the water.
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If you really believe that, wow, you are confused. Why do you follow this man.
Calling people "stupid," "idiots," and "Pathetic." is starting a good thread??!! Did you even read what he posted??!! Wake up!
[Edited on 8-14-2005 by JZ]
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Bruce, read the first post again:
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Helping the Mexicans
For the really stupid, it's not about throwing your money at them, buying mass quantities of beer at the depositos, or giving them donations.
It's about teaching them a trade so they don't have to be maids and gardeners for the P-nche gringos.
But I don't expect the idiots on here to understand thoughts like this, they are too busy taking polls, drumming up support, and kissing each others
katooties!
Pathetic, still!
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Now, take note how many insults are in it... If that is how jr starts a 'good thread' we may never have peace in our time! |
David I cant speak for Jr Baja but the way I interpreted his writing was that he did not point it at any one in particular and he wrote it with a if
the shoe fits ware it attitude.
I did not think the shoe fit me so I did not take offense
I think unless you are an idiot, stupid or drumming up support, and kissing each others katooties!
Pathetic, still!. that You don't have anything to worry about .
I don't know any Nomads that fit in to those things, so I assume he is addressing Anon.
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I live in Mulege. I most likely know 95% of the people, American and Mexican, who donate time, money, goods, and educational benefits to the people
who want or need it. These donations started long, long ago. They go unheralded today as they did 35 years ago. There is no need to proclaim one's
giving....unless you are need of a pat on the back.
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JZ
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
ee88 what is with the attack?? I thought Jrbaja was trying to start a good thread here and you blasted it right out of the water.
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If you really believe that, wow, you are confused. Why do you follow this man.
Calling people "stupid," "idiots," and "Pathetic." is starting a good thread??!! Did you even read what he posted??!! Wake up!
[Edited on 8-14-2005 by JZ] |
I don't Fallow any one. but Jrbaja did not say that you or I are "stupid," "idiots," and "Pathetic. did he?
I wonder why some people take Immediate offense when some posts certain words like that. I always figure they are talking about the people that fit
in to that category.
I know my spelling is Pathetic. so I guess maybe I fit in but it is the truth so I am not mad about that.
[Edited on 8-14-2005 by Bruce R Leech]
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jrbaja
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This was totally distorted
in your interpretation Bill. Giving donations stupid? Hardly.
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Sharksbaja
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Then you obviously know Bruce personally.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Anonymous
I live in Mulege. I most likely know 95% of the people, American and Mexican, who donate time, money, goods, and educational benefits to the people
who want or need it. These donations started long, long ago. They go unheralded today as they did 35 years ago. There is no need to proclaim one's
giving....unless you are need of a pat on the back. |
Did you introduce yourself as same.
Tell me o knowledgable one.........what Mulege projects are in the works right now funded by donations?
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
... and kissing each others katooties!
Pathetic, still! |
JR, you crack me up! I think folks should get a clue and understand that you are a chain puller. And, not a bad guy in person!! Hah! 
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Diver
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Bob is obviously one of the smart ones !!
Sometimes what's obvious is not to some.
It's always amazing when we raise new chicks and bring them a larger water dish; you have to show them that it's water all over again before they
will drink it from the new dish ! 
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
| Quote: | Originally posted by Anonymous
I live in Mulege. I most likely know 95% of the people, American and Mexican, who donate time, money, goods, and educational benefits to the people
who want or need it. These donations started long, long ago. They go unheralded today as they did 35 years ago. There is no need to proclaim one's
giving....unless you are need of a pat on the back. |
Did you introduce yourself as same.
Tell me o knowledgable one.........what Mulege projects are in the works right now funded by donations? |
good point Sharksbaja
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jrbaja
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He seems to get along with
the Mexican people just fine. And after all, it is Mexico, no? Who exactly do you mean when you say nobody?
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comitan
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Anon
Your getting personal, thats hitting below the belt people only hit below the belt when they are loosin. From your posts I thought you were above
that even if you are a anon.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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jrbaja
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Mulege
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comitan
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I'm sorry I have to disagree with you, they are attacking but not on such a lowly way you in my estimation have gone to the lowest level. I just read
another anon which one I don't know playing lowball with some of the others especialy JR. And if you see them deleted its because I reported them.
Wiley Stagg
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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L O L : laughing Out Loud.
That is NOT Mulege !
Q was, do you know anything about the situation in Mulege?
i.e. is Bruce Leech running the Telcel store as he anounced to do?
i.e. is resurface completed on M1 from Santa Rosalia to Santispac?
i.e. is the Ejido problem solved in Mulege?
i.e. is the Palican open in September?
i.e. is the jungle open everyday?
i.e. is there any construction going on in Mulege, worth to report here?
i.e. is the Serenidad open in Sept.?
i.e. is there any flooding going on @ the Mulege river right now?
And next time, post a pic from Mulege or don't post at all.
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mulege marv
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helping mexicans
jr i think you are out of line line by posting what you THINK is best for the mexican people. you live in a border town, face it , it is different
there than in central baja. work is slow here in the summer and any work you, (gringo) can provide is help. teaching somebody a trade, if there is no
demand for the finished product is a waste of time. i , personally think , you are a arogant -------- who is exactly who you preach against. i left
this board once because of you but refused to let you chase me off, like many others. help comes in many forms, and when you need work , and there is
no work, and i can give them work, at their request, for a DESCENT days wage. people need to eat and families need to be taken care of. the mexicans i
have encounterd have a proud culture and would not take something for nothing. so when one of the locals comes to me and says he needs to make some
money, i should send him away or teach him how to weave bamboo ? that doesnt put food on the table. good for the long term, teaching, but it doesnt
put food on the table. wake up and give it up. let them deceide what they need and whats best for them, not you. last time i checked they didnt elect
you as their representitive. you just self appointed yourself. to think you know whats best for sombody else is a dangerous thing. and yes i got
sucked in to another negitave post, but you feel strongly about something , well anyway.
Want what you have
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rpleger
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Anon,
I don`t know who you are, but if you don`t think that Bruce is a good, active, business person, and nieghbor then you havn`t lived in Muleg? very long
or your not very active yourself.
If we don`t know who you are, ?How the hell can you criticize anyone ?
Screw you Anon.
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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jrbaja
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You have no idea Marv
what you are talking about.
And for the other namless genius, that's before the tourists took it over. I wouldn't expect you to recognize it.
[Edited on 8/15/2005 by jrbaja]
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comitan
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Marv
Thank you for your view it is the same as mine, but mine goes even farther but I will make it short Mexico has enough do gooders. This is just my
personal opinion, and I'm not going to try to explain my opinon it would take to long and be to involved.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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