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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MH_Stevens
While we are considering being stopped and searched by the federales, has anyone else been through the check point on 1 just north of Santo Tomas that
is half manned by uniformed manikins? I so badly wanted to take a picture but just thought it might not be welcome. My wife and I laughed out loud the
whole time the real soldiers were looking over our wagon.
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Yup, pretty funny!
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Barry A.
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Hard-core law enforcement manikins-------
There is a tiny town in Arizona (can't remember exactly where) with a shiny police car sitting beside the highway as you enter town, with the most
realistic "manikin" cop sitting behind the wheel you ever saw------they say that it is very effective-----and I can believe it-----I sure slowed down.
Only after stopping did we realize what was going on.
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MH_Stevens
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Maybe I need to expand on my personal feelings in light of Comitan's sayings. Until a few years ago hand guns were rare amongst the average Mexican
because they were severely restricted. Guns were carried by the feds or the major criminal, neither of which have a beef with us. Recently gun laws
have been relaxed and as the Gringo Gazette said gun laws are not now being enforced which, again according to what I have read there and at other
on-line sites, the average common thief or carjacker is now packing. This surely makes Mexico more dangerous for everyone, not just Gringos and
personal protection needs to be evaluated in the light of this. I see no way that I have been disrespectful to anyone.
Mike S
Cheers,
Mike Stevens
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Reeljob
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Yep, that's Boulder City. I remember when they went to move the car and the Maniquin had a 30-06 hole in his head. Right thru the Window. Maybe
that's why they use a manequin.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Barry A. I think you may be right about feeling uncomfortable, in TH, Mexicali, etc. I found that I was super cautious in the border Towns and stayed
away from places like Cabo where all the Bad stuff happens.
If you are concerned while driving i would get a a good Dog{Black Lab] and always make a show of holding him when you come to the Military Stops, also
keep him with you at any time you are on theBeach.
My say is that I will take Baja over south Cental anytime, and I have worked there as a Policemen{1960}.
Stevens: You are some what wrong when you indicated that Guns have been Rare in Mexico. Nearly every small village owner and Fisherman, and Rancher
will have a 22 Cal. or 30 Cal Rifle. my experience from the 28th Parrell South.
I would not give much though to anything that is Published by the Gringo Gasette. Gun running is still going on every day!!!
Skeet/Loreto
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Tucker
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To paraphrase one of my favorite sayings, ("If you don't believe in resurrection, you should be here at quitting time") " If you think there are no
guns in Mexico, you should be here on New Year's eve".
\"I think it would be a good idea.\"
-- Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization
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comitan
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Steven
Suppose you bring a weapon to Baja and get caught.
1. You will go to jail
2. Your vehicle will be impounded.
3. Everything of any value in your vehicle will disapear.
4. You will then have to get a Lawyer to get you out jail & pay your $1,000 dollar fine. This lawyer will tell you this will take time $5,000 to
10,000 later you will be able to pay your fine and get out of jail.
Good luck security comes at a high price in Mexico.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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MH_Stevens
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Comitan: I know you are right about the risks. The problem that I really wanted to bring to mind is that with the changes taking place with Mexican
gun law, with it's gun laws moving towards the US's, the unarmed tourist or ex-pat is at a disadvantage that was not there previously.
Mike S
Cheers,
Mike Stevens
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sschaneman
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Ok just another questions about guns. My husband is an avid collector of historical type weapons from all cultures, what is the policy of these type
of collections?
Some of his more "expensive pistolas" he might want to take with him when we relocate, is this even possible? its not like they even fire anymore,
they are for show or decortive value.
Can you own if you are getting a dual citizenship?
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bajalou
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Haven't heard anything authorative regarding the Mexican gun laws changing. The GG is certainly not a credable source for me. 
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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comitan
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Mike
You make your own decisions, i'm just trying to make you aware as to what you are dealing with. In the 23 years of Baja I've been in prison, it was
my fault I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I've been sued, Had criminal charges filed against me all my fault, but I've had a lot of
experience here in Mexico, even with a friend that got caught with a gun, he went to jail, a lawyer got him out, and stayed out as long as he made his
monetary contributions, when he decided that he had paid enough, the lawyer called and told him get out of the country now. He did that and has never
been back.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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osoflojo
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At this point , not that any one cares but statistics just reported by the PGR (Mexican Attorney General) regarding Federal offenses investigated
within each state and the country as a whole reflect the following extracts:
Baja California:
1/1/05 - 9/30/05, 1268 firearms/explosives cases investigated.
1/1/04 - 12/31/04, 1617 firearms/explosives cases investigated.
Baja California Sur:
1/1/05 - 9/30/05, 48 firearms/explosives cases investigated.
1/1/04 - 12/31/04, 57 firearms/explosives cases investigated.
The entire country:
1/1/05 - 9/30/05, 10692 firearms/explosives cases investigated.
1/1/04 - 12/31/04, 14,145 firearmsexplosives cases investigated.
In almost all instances firearms/explosives cases came in #2 or # 3 behing Drugs. These figures do not reflect any state cases.
Take it for what it's worth.
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viabaja
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Things I've learned from the locals:
If you are popped with an unlicensed firearm (they aren't giving hunting permits for .45's, 9mm's, etc.)
Don't even bring a BB or pellet gun in
You will go to jail
You will spend X amount of years in jail
You will spend $1000's on an Mexican attorney that will drag out for years
Your family will spend $1000's to support you in jail (did you think prisons in Mexico are free?)
For the idiots who just have to have the damn things in their vehicles, leave them home. Better yet, stay home and stock up for Terminator 4.
All you need in Baja is:
Money
Learn to speak Spanish
A smile
A good attitude (you are a tourist in THEIR country - behave)
Fishing gear
and................. a cold Cerveza!
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MrBillM
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Pistol-Packin Gringos
DON'T LEAVE YOUR WEAPONS AT HOME.
Sell them to me. I'm always in the market (at the right price) to add to my arsenal even if I need to add another Lockup for them. Like Sex and
Cerveza, just can't get enough.
Speaking of weapons, I've been getting catalogs just recently from an outfit that sells mostly replica Edged Weapons and some of the offerings are not
shippable to Calif, Mass, New York and Arknasas (strange, that last one). Anyway, in the latest issue I picked up there is ONE item that cannot be
shipped to California ONLY. It is a Mace. One of those handles with three chains, each of which is attached to a spiked steel ball. It's
interesting that the Socialist Peoples Republics of Mass and NY are OK with those, but not California.
No idea what the regulations in Mexico are for that one. It would be interesting to find out.
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Gypsy Jan
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Free road North to Rosarito, near Popotla/Fox Studios
the military checkpoint has a new sign (it wasn't there last week, I think) that says, in Spanish, if a gun is found in your car during inspection, it
is a mandatory two-to-seven years in prison.
Well, I guess its just like those commuter lanes signs that warn of fines. Paraphrasing the words of Clint Eastwood in the Dirty Harry film, you have
to ask yourself, "Am I feeling lucky today?"
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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MH_Stevens
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Well I guess they must be reading this thread.
Cheers,
Mike Stevens
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comitan
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Stevens
Do you realize how many gringo's come into Mexico every day without guns, I'm sure you read about all of the robberies, rapes, killling of gringos. I
would be willing to bet that there is more crime commited in L.A. in one day than in the Baja in a year.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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turtleandtoad
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MrBillM,
Are you volunteering to find out? 
Let us know how things go 
Mike & Robin; Full-Time RV\'ers
37\' Georgetown w/3 slides & 275 Watts of Solar Power
06 Taco TRD
www.turtleandtoad.com
I am here
To paraphrase Frank Lloyd Wright; I\'m all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let\'s start with keyboards. --
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MrBillM
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Peace, Brothers
I am a law-abiding resident of Mexico and would NEVER consider breaking such a serious law. My lawlessness is limited to vehicle speed.
When it comes to violent crime stats, I'm not so sure that TIJUANA would come out looking so much more peaceful (per-capita) than Los Angeles, much
less all of Baja, but who knows ? I guess someone could look up the statistics. Good thing that Nuevo Laredo is not in Baja. If some eager beaver
wants to do the statistical comparisons, be sure to filter out the suicide stats which are lumped in with violent crime data.
In the meantime, if any of you converted pacifists wish to sell off any firearms (North of the border, of course) feel free to let me know.
I note from a post just adjacent to this, that Rosarito is at times a dangerous place, too.
[Edited on 11-7-2005 by MrBillM]
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capn.sharky
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WHY? Why would anyone want to bring a gun into Baja. If you shot someone--even in self defense you will probably go to jail. Are you guys that want
to bring a gun to Baja ready to use it? When was the last time you got checked out at the range. What if you miss and hit an innocent person. What
if the bad guys get ahold of it and use it on you. I have alot of handguns here in the safe in the U.S. But, I would never think of taking one to
Baja. No offense, but do you guys like Humvees too? Why not join the Army or Marines and volunteer to go to Iraq. Skeet is right on again. Don't
do it. Its not worth it.
If there is no fishing in heaven, I am not going
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