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Mike Supino
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Did you check this site for Mickey Thompson dealers?
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/dealers.html
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David K
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Yes I did Mike, thanks... BIG O (a named distributor) is near me, but they don't stock it, can order it in. The Dick Cepek web site also listed Big O,
but Big O said NO!
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Roberto
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Here you go - http://fourwheelparts.com/4wp/products/productLine.asp?cat=T... .
Three stores in San Diego County.
Have you checked the prices on those tires? I don't think they'll qualify for "easy to swallow price".
[Edited on 4-18-2006 by Roberto]
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Ken Cooke
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Just take your copy of FOURWHEELER in to 4Wheel Parts and have them price match what their competitors are charging for Mickey Thompson's ATZ's:
National Tire and Wheel has LT265sx16s listed at $136 a tire.
www.ntwonline.com
For that price, there's no reason to buy another BFGoodrich AT. 
Press Release:
Mickey Thompson? Introduces The Baja ATZ? Radial!
A New Line of All Terrain Radial Light Truck Tires
Stow, Ohio - The newest generation and technology in all-terrain tires from Mickey Thompson! The Baja Radial ATZ offers a smooth ride with aggressive
looks and functionality. The perfect tire for everyday drivers and weekend off-roaders.
The Baja ATZ Radial Features:
* Sizes for most light truck and S.U.V. applications - from the traditional 30x9.50R15LT, all the way up to the giant sized 40x13.50R20LT
* Variable sized, interlocking tread-lugs for quieter, smoother ride and excellent handling
* Enhanced Sidebiters? for a more aggressive look in an all terrain and better off-road traction
* "Stone-Kickers" built in between each shoulder lug to disperse rocks and gravel
* Newest technology in construction delivers ride, handling, low road noise, and long mileage
* Siped tread-lugs for excellent all weather driving
For more info on Mickey Thompson Tires visit:
www.mickeythompsontires.com
or call (330) 928-9092.
[Edited on 4-18-2006 by Ken Cooke]
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David K
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Thanks Roberto, yes... I called them... the tires in your link are all bigger than my needs, perhaps why they exceed the $165 mark?
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
Just take your copy of FOURWHEELER in to 4Wheel Parts and have them price match what their competitors are charging for Mickey Thompson's ATZ's:
National Tire and Wheel has LT265sx16s listed at $136 a tire.
www.ntwonline.com
For that price, there's no reason to buy another BFGoodrich AT.
Press Release:
Mickey Thompson? Introduces The Baja ATZ? Radial!
A New Line of All Terrain Radial Light Truck Tires
Stow, Ohio - The newest generation and technology in all-terrain tires from Mickey Thompson! The Baja Radial ATZ offers a smooth ride with aggressive
looks and functionality. The perfect tire for everyday drivers and weekend off-roaders.
The Baja ATZ Radial Features:
* Sizes for most light truck and S.U.V. applications - from the traditional 30x9.50R15LT, all the way up to the giant sized 40x13.50R20LT
* Variable sized, interlocking tread-lugs for quieter, smoother ride and excellent handling
* Enhanced Sidebiters? for a more aggressive look in an all terrain and better off-road traction
* "Stone-Kickers" built in between each shoulder lug to disperse rocks and gravel
* Newest technology in construction delivers ride, handling, low road noise, and long mileage
* Siped tread-lugs for excellent all weather driving
For more info on Mickey Thompson Tires visit:
www.mickeythompsontires.com
or call (330) 928-9092.
[Edited on 4-18-2006 by Ken Cooke] |
Thanks Ken, I saw them in JP Magazine, but no prices were shown... I think I am going with the Coopers... Both the Mickey Thompson and Dick Cepek
tires are slightly taller (75s vs. 70) and I don't want to mess with my speedometer as it is right on (for mapping Baja roads). I will try and look at
them all today...
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Ken Cooke
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Let us all know what you decided on... 
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David K
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and the winner is.........................
COOPER Discoverer STTs
I went to Four Wheel Parts, Off Road Wharehouse, and made calls...
Express Tire was the only place that actually had a tire to show me of the 3-4 candidates... It was the exact size I was seeking, and very close,
albeit slightly above to my price range' top end of $165... ($169.99).
I will tell you how well or poorly the other places handled my quest, later...
[Edited on 4-19-2006 by David K]
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
COOPER Discoverer STTs
[Edited on 4-19-2006 by David K] |
David, from the looks of the photo... that tire looks great, but I would ask about how much noise they might make. There is nothing worse than noisey
tires, in my opinion.
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David if your Toyota has the wheel well clearance I'd recommend going for an LT285 size tire. It's basically equil to a 33x11.50 where as the LT265 is
a 32x10.50. I put them on my chevy and GMC and they made a big difference in the sand and they wear longer. Of course the price is higher.
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David K
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That was my first question... and Baja Angel's too!
Unlike the 'monster mudder' tires that those raised trucks use which are as loud as a 747 flying overhead, Cooper has sound cancelling technology
built into them... the 'bars' and 'recesses' are of differnet widths going around the tire. I expect them to be louder than the 'street-like' BFGs I
have now, but not too bad...
They should be here Thursday PM... I will post photos.
[Edited on 4-19-2006 by David K]
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David K
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Thanks TW, but they are already ordered and I wanted my odometer to not change, as well as the budget... so I stayed with 265/70-16.
By the way, they are 3 ply sidewalls, but 'newer technology construction' that will be 'better' than All Terrain T/As 3 ply sidewalls.
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David K
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Last look at the BFG Rugged Trail T/As with sidewall crack, at 24,850 miles and 8 months old...
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A closer look...
Cooper Discoverer STT
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David K
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So, I now have some good 'shoes' for my 4X4!
They do 'hum' driving, but not obnoxiously... Watch out Baja, here comes Tacoma with new tread.
The sand test will be how far I get without deflating on Shell Island or how much deflation is needed to 'float'.
Then I think a drive into Mision Santa Maria is in order!  
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David K
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Yes, 3 ply sidewalls... I will play around with tire pressure for the best 'feel'...
Toyota recommends 29 front, 32 rear on my truck.
The BFGs were rated for max. 35 PSI.
The Coopers are rated for max. 50 PSI.
Any opinion on how much air I should run highway driving?
The 4 Wheel Parts place had a fellow who didn't really know anything about tires, even though his fellow counter workers were all there, nobody came
to his aid to help him answer my questions... Rate them near 0.
Off Road Warehouse had someone with some knowledge, but no tires to show me I was seeking... and they get whatever tire I wanted but from some
middleman distributor. I will go back there for shocks or lights, not tires.
Express Tires had what I was considering for me to look at and touch, and that counted big time. I have had good experience with Cooper before, and I
know other Cooper customers who were all happy. They are American made... (the only bad thing?  ). Just kidding...
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Wow its starting to look like a truck  Just messing with ya DK. Great
looking tires, and your truck is ok too 
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Thanks Frank... time will tell how these tires really do, and I will report the truth... as I do with my new Toyota's problems (if I ever have
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Now you need one of these. It will push the cows under the truck
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Last look at the BFG Rugged Trail T/As with sidewall crack, at 24,850 miles and 8 months old... |
David,
That is not a crack, it is a cut from something sharp you must have driven over on the trail. Perhaps a creosote branch or something. Those cracks
are not too much of a concern since the cuts are superficial. However, depending on the sidewall thickness, it could turn into a problem later on
down the line.
At any rate, a new set of tires was sorely in order.
You will want your tires to sit 'square' on the pavement - not so much air pressure that they ride on the center of the tire, and not so little that
your tires have a 'squishy' ride either. So, right around 28-32 p.s.i. you might find a happy medium. There is the ubiquitous chalk test to measure
correct air pressure. But, recommended tire pressures typically cover this. Have fun with those new meats and I hope they float real well across
Shell Island.
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