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BajaRob
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My Dad, who I knew well, taught me that one could get more with honey than vinegar. Make sure that your words are sweet, you never know when you are
going to have to eat them.
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eetdrt88
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i'll buy everyone on this forum a beer if there is any pavement to gonzaga bay before the end of this decade and who's in charge of operations down there...i've been down there a few times last winter and during the
spring and saw absolutely no road work being done but now in the hottest month of the year they begin work too damn funny,well not for for the laborers 
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BajaRob
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You're on. By late 2009 you can buy me and Ricky Bell a cold Tecate @ the newly opened hunta.
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Dave
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Actually, it depends on your lease
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaRob
I guess it depends on the Campo. When Campo Ocotillos powered up, the total cost was split amongst those who wanted to hook up. Those who
chose not to or were not in the camp at the time must now pay a higher price to those who originally paid for the system. Those fees are then rebated
back to the original purchasers of the infrastructure. |
If the lessor can legally collect an assessment and decides to hook up then you are obligated. Of course the lease must be legal. Most aren't.
But I guess that's a subject for another thread. 
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by eetdrt88
i'll buy everyone on this forum a beer if there is any pavement to gonzaga bay before the end of this decade |
I think you will be surprised. That's over four years away. And, in my opinion, Baja is changing faster than ever. You better be prepared to buy
lots of beer.....
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David K
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This is the original road to Gonzaga Bay that I consider the item that made it such a special place to go to...
Photos taken in 1979 while pre-running the Baja 1000...
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thebajarunner
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David, that's 90 mph road!
Why don't you show the old potholes going up the Sisters, and the sheer drop down the side, and all the hulks resting below.
Shoot, those pictures are speedway pix...
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David K
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Standby 'runner... I dug out my 1974 and '75 photos when I was driving a Meyers Manx 1650cc Baja Special...
The problem is where the road was that bad, I couldn't get out and take a photo!
However, by co-pilot did at the bottom of one of the 'sisters' and photographed me driving down...
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David K
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Nearing the bottom of one of the 'terrible sisters'... 1974, my first trip driving around Baja at 16 (without parents)... Photo taken by 16 y/o friend
Pat Goforth.
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David K
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In 1975, I did the same big Baja loop trip again over Easter Vacation with friend Mike Clancy... Tijuana to Mision San Fernando to El Marmol to
Calamajue Canyon, Gonzaga, Puertecitos, San Felipe, home...
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David K
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Heading north from Gonzaga Bay in my 1650cc VW Meyers Manx Baja Special (roof rack, side curtains)...
The new graded highway (that many call a bad road) was built across the canyon to the left of this photo... 11 years later! One can see this long
grade from the new road...
[Edited on 8-1-2006 by David K]
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thebajarunner
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and someone always, always, always broke on these hills,
and you had to pass them,
and quickly,
and they never pulled to the side,
always sat in the middle of the road,
broke,
and the choices of which side to pass........
priceless!!!!
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David K
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The idea of not pulling over was to insure you would help get him going again! Naturally, nobody would not stop to help as cars where few and far
between!
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MrBillM
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Good Samaritans ?
Back around 1975-76 we were headed for Gonzaga Bay after dark. I was driving a Baja Bug and my friend, who owned a house at Alfonsina's was driving
an old Ford 2WD Pickup filled with construction materials, including sacks of Concrete mix and towing a dune buggy. Along the way we passed a Jeep
Club Caravan of a dozen or so vehicles. going through one sandy wash, my pal ended up putting one wheel too far to one side and buried the Truck in
the soft sand. Absolutely no chance to dig it out without unloading. After a short while, the Jeeps caught up with us and the end result was that
they were able to pull the truck out with two of their winches. Listening to the CB channel that they were using to communicate with each other made
it very clear that they would have passed us by without a worry if we had not been blocking the road. Nevertheless, we were appropriately grateful
and invited them to drop by while we were there. They camped at the North end of the Runway and none ever stopped by. An amusing postscript to that
trip was that nobody bothered to tell them that the area where they pitched their tents would flood on the night's high tide. I took some great
pictures of their "Soggy" camp. They weren't too friendly while we were shooting those pics.
That's OK, when we first camped on the beach there in 1973, nobody bothered to tell us either. I woke up in the early a.m. to find our Bugs sitting
in about six inches of water (and rising). First things first, we got the vehicles moved. By that time, the water had reached the tents. A couple
of the residents came down the next morning while we were drying out and thought the whole thing was really funny. I guess it was.
The thing about the old road was that no picture could really do it justice. Over the years, I had told many people about that road and they'd nod
and say "yeah, I've been on roads like that". Sure. The only thing that ever came close was Super 8 I took back in the 70s, but even then with all
the bouncing around, you still couldn't communicate it to someone who'd never been on it.
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David K
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poo poo on that Jeep club! They got what they deserved!
When my folks took their new Wagoneer to Gonzaga Bay (via Puertecitos) in 1965, some swag at Puertecitos said the road ended right there... The only
way to Gonzaga was by boat (or plane)!
Armed with a copy of Gerhard & Gulick, they new a Jeep could be driven to Gonzaga... and they did.
Here's our Jeep at Alfonsina's in 1967 on our way to L.A. Bay... Rare shade! I am laying on that cot with hat, behind the local kid...
[Edited on 8-1-2006 by David K]
[Edited on 8-1-2006 by David K]
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David K
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Anyway, photos cannot relate the experience of the grades to Gonzaga (aka The Sisters)...
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eetdrt88
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freakin awesome photos...
of a place I love long before i ever set foot there...thanks
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thebajarunner
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Breakdowns on the Sisters
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The idea of not pulling over was to insure you would help get him going again! Naturally, nobody would not stop to help as cars where few and far
between! |
David, I was talking about the guys who broke during the races, on the Sisters, and did not try to clear the course.
Some of them got dumped over the side, when enough of us got backed up to the bottom of the hill, not able to get around...
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Corky1
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Here's a few pictures of the old road taken form the new road!! Nov 03
[Edited on 8-1-2006 by Corky1]
 
\"Keep The Rubberside Down\" |
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Corky1
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Another??
The rest of the are to big to post. Sorry!
Corky
[Edited on 8-1-2006 by Corky1]
\"Keep The Rubberside Down\"
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