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BajaWarrior
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Summanus
I bought Powerstrides (6-volt deep cycle) for my solar system in San Diego near the Sports Arena area. Got a great price on a bunch of them...any
order over 6, I believe, will get you a discount. They are the same battery inside as the Trojan T-105's, just marketed under a different name...and
cheaper.
Talk to these guys:
Powerstride Battery
3450 Kurtz St Ste B
San Diego, CA, 92110-4451 |
Yep, just talked to Powerstride, 10% price increase tomorrow as well. Good price for over 10 batteries, $68 each. Same as T-105 Trojan. These are
U2200, Interstate had the same battery, $72 each.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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Russ
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Sunbelt Batteries in Santi is a huge warehouse that handles Trojan. Last I looked they were on the Trojan web site. I've gone to L-16 for my solar
system. But a lot of folks here use the 105's. I'm hoping that some of the new technology will help us with the cost of batteries but I'm not going to
hold my breath. Don't forget to buy distilled water.
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wornout
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Sunbelt Batteries in Santi is a huge warehouse that handles Trojan. Last I looked they were on the Trojan web site. I've gone to L-16 for my solar
system. But a lot of folks here use the 105's. I'm hoping that some of the new technology will help us with the cost of batteries but I'm not going to
hold my breath. Don't forget to buy distilled water. |
This is just an observation:
I have used L-16 at my home in San Felipe since 1997 and have replaced them once. If you only need 200 amps, then the smaller units are the way to
go. If you need over 300 amps, get the L-16 or knock-off of the L-16.
The reason I do not use 105's is they go through water at least twice, maybe three times, the rate of an L-16. Both Bajalou and I do battery
maintenance for quite a few neighbors in San Felipe and believe us, all the 105's we check use water at an accelerated rate.
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wornout
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Sunbelt Batteries in Santi is a huge warehouse that handles Trojan. Last I looked they were on the Trojan web site. I've gone to L-16 for my solar
system. But a lot of folks here use the 105's. I'm hoping that some of the new technology will help us with the cost of batteries but I'm not going to
hold my breath. Don't forget to buy distilled water. |
This is just an observation:
I have used L-16 at my home in San Felipe since 1997 and have replaced them once. If you only need 200 amps, then the smaller units are the way to
go. If you need over 300 amps, get the L-16 or L-17 knock-offs.
The reason I do not use 105's is they go through water at least twice, maybe three times, the rate of an L-16. Both Bajalou and I do battery
maintenance for quite a few neighbors in San Felipe and believe us, all the 105's we check use water at an accelerated rate.
[Edited on 11-1-2006 by wornout]
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BajaWarrior
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I'll give you that, the Trojans and other same group size batteries do blow through the water, just a cheaper up front cost for adequate power.
I am only maintaining my own batteries so it's not too big of a chore. But definatley fill them before leaving for the summer as I do.
Thanks for the reccomendation for the L-16's, I am replacing my bank next fall and will look into them.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wornout
The reason I do not use 105's is they go through water at least twice, maybe three times, the rate of an L-16. Both Bajalou and I do battery
maintenance for quite a few neighbors in San Felipe and believe us, all the 105's we check use water at an accelerated rate.
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You are comparing apples and oranges. There are a whole lot of variables at play but bottom line is that a 105 ain't near the same battery as
a L-16.
How often are your neighbor's 105's regulated?
How deeply are they discharged?
You've got to baby them.
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
I'm hoping that some of the new technology will help us with the cost of batteries but I'm not going to hold my breath. Don't forget to buy distilled
water. |
This is sorta far fetched, but by the time you need to replace a new set of batteries, there is a good chance we will have solar powered fuel cells.
The focus is on natural gas fired fuel cells, but many are working on other forms including solar. Maybe sooner then you think. I hope so , because
I have a small stake in a couple companies.
Albert G
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jorgie
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Much thanks Nomads, great stuff, got me on the right track. I went to Trojans site.......how do you lift 128lbs ?? Sounds like they recommend the
L16s.
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jorgie
Much thanks Nomads, great stuff, got me on the right track. I went to Trojans site.......how do you lift 128lbs ?? Sounds like they recommend the
L16s. |
They are not for Girliee Men
Albert G
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BajaWarrior
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| Quote: | | This is sorta far fetched, but by the time you need to replace a new set of batteries, there is a good chance we will have solar powered fuel cells.
The focus is on natural gas fired fuel cells, but many are working on other forms including solar. Maybe sooner then you think. I hope so , because
I have a small stake in a couple companies. |
That's what they said 14 years ago when I bought my first set of batteries, and again 9 years ago and again 3 years ago!
I'm still waiting for my flying car they said we would have in the near future back when I was a kid! 
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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Al G
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by BajaWarrior
This is sorta far fetched, but by the time you need to replace a new set of batteries, there is a good chance we will have solar powered fuel cells.
The focus is on natural gas fired fuel cells, but many are working on other forms including solar. Maybe sooner then you think. I hope so , because
I have a small stake in a couple companies. |
That's what they said 14 years ago when I bought my first set of batteries, and again 9 years ago and again 3 years ago!
I'm still waiting for my flying car they said we would have in the near future back when I was a kid! |
OK where do I buy stocks for this Flying car
Albert G
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Neal Johns
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Al G, I have 100 shares of Flying Car stock fresh off my inkjet that I will part with cheap. See me over dinner at the BajaCactus party Saturday (the
check is on you).
Neal (Trust Me) Johns
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wornout
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Al G
| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
I'm hoping that some of the new technology will help us with the cost of batteries but I'm not going to hold my breath. Don't forget to buy distilled
water. |
This is sorta far fetched, but by the time you need to replace a new set of batteries, there is a good chance we will have solar powered fuel cells.
The focus is on natural gas fired fuel cells, but many are working on other forms including solar. Maybe sooner then you think. I hope so , because
I have a small stake in a couple companies. |
In 1998 when I retired from EPRI (Electric Power Research Institute) I went to the Generation and Storage Department for some advice about setting up
a solar home. At that time, he had a fuel cell in his office, which came from Japan. The manager indicated is should be available in a couple of
years. They were looking at the engineering and wanted to find someone who could produce them. That was 8 years ago. I went ahead and replaced my
L-16's last spring as we are still waiting to see that technology marketed and I am sure some company purchased that technology such as Exxon,
Chevron, Royal Dutch to keep it from coming to market.
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Al G
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I follow the fuel cell industry on a weekly basis and I am aware of the slow pace. There are now 3-4 times the research companies and many time that
the grants and investment money then there was 2 years ago. I know that does not mean alot, but there is more hope now.
Everyone knows what the fossil fuel industry does and they do not try to hide it anymore. My neighbor was a welding contractor in the Kansas area and
work up north constructing ethanol plants. He told me as soon as the plant was ready to go on line it would be bought at twice it was worth and then
the oil company would contract with him to dismantle it. That was his story and he is the one that got me into investing in alternate energy. Had a
good run this year.
Albert G
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jorgie
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with the fuel cells, what is the connection and application to that which is presently fueled by batteries/solar power ?
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jorgie
with the fuel cells, what is the connection and application to that which is presently fueled by batteries/solar power ? |
This is a tough subject to tackle before coffee.
Not to get to technical, but hydrogen fuel cell mix Hydrogen and oxygen and produce electric. There are fuel cell you can buy now for $800, but only
produce a very low output and you have to buy tanks of hydrogen a lot like you would buy for gas power a BB gun. The big deal is using solar to
manufacture Hydrogen.
Maybe this would be better:
nano.mtu.edu/HydrogenFuelCell_start.html
You will have to copy and paste in the address window, I think. or Google "Hydrogen Fuel Cell" and you will get millions of hits. You could read for a
week
Albert G
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Russ
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There are fuel cells out there but as far as I can see they are used only for back up for hospitals and such. The stuff I read a couple of years ago
said one unit the size of a refrigerator would power three homes. It had three removable propane tanks. But how to refuel them and service them? I
haven't found any information. The cost was estimated around $15k per. Maybe ma�ana.
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Summanus
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batteries and fuel cells
These are two sites that I have been reading and watching videos from while having my coffee....very interesting stuff:
http://www.knowledgepublications.com/
http://www.knowledgepublications.com/google_hydrogen_2_GW2H2...
Summanus....ancient Roman Nightly Thunder God. He liked refrieds too.
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bajalou
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
There are fuel cells out there but as far as I can see they are used only for back up for hospitals and such. The stuff I read a couple of years ago
said one unit the size of a refrigerator would power three homes. It had three removable propane tanks. But how to refuel them and service them? I
haven't found any information. The cost was estimated around $15k per. Maybe ma�ana. |
For 3 families to share, that $15k isn't really too bad compared to setting up 3 good sized solar systems. Propane is avaliable in most areas without
too much trouble.
No Bad Days
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Summanus
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At this point in time, I would still favor the solar-power system over a fuel-cell option. We are pretty trouble-free with ours. Just my
preference to what I am familiar with at present.
I look forward to all the new technologies that are sure to come out after the upcoming elections.
Summanus....ancient Roman Nightly Thunder God. He liked refrieds too.
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