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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mike Supino
The scams are still happening in El Rosario! |
That's surprizing to me. The last time I fueled at El Rosario the attendent even came over to me to show that the pump was cleared before he started
it.
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Ken Bondy
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To my knowledge, I have yet to be scammed at any Pemex, including Santa Rosalia. I'm sure it happens, it just hasn't happened to me. I use diesel
and my tanks have locked caps, that may help. I do have a positive story. Several years ago I crossed the border southbound at Mexicali for the
first time. It was kind of hectic, and I guess I was a little flustered when I pulled into a Pemex station just north of the turnoff to San Felipe
(Mexico 5). I filled up the Hummer, about 35 gallons of diesel. I don't remember the price but I counted out what I thought was the right amount of
bills in pesos and handed them to the attendant. He counted them, then shook his head in a "jeez, what a dumb gringo...." mode, looked at me, and
handed me back a fairly substantial amount that I had overpaid. He then proceeded to chew me out in pretty good English, warning me to "watch my
money" in Mexico. I promised to be more careful, asked him to go with us on the trip to watch out for us, he respectfully declined. It was a good
experience.
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Hook
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Just pay at the window, people. It's an insidious pump attendant scheme, perpetuated at many Pemex.
I have no doubt that Shari was referring to 100 peso notes.
On El Rosario, I have found that,for some time now, they make sure that I SEE the pump has been zeroed.
It isn't fair to besmirch the El Rosairo station's good name in such a drive-by fashion, Mike. Let's hear the details. Antonio deserves that much (at
least) for all his attempts at running an honest business in a dishonest system. If he had a bad employee, let's let him know.
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surfer jim
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Wasn't going to bring this up as I didn't want to get that involved but the last two times in El Rosario (december) I asked the pump attendent what
the exchange rate was and was told "10.7"....fine....filled up and paid attendent first time and paid window next time....but only got ten peso rate
both times.....
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tripledigitken
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PAY FOR FUEL IN PESO'S
| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
Wasn't going to bring this up as I didn't want to get that involved but the last two times in El Rosario (december) I asked the pump attendent what
the exchange rate was and was told "10.7"....fine....filled up and paid attendent first time and paid window next time....but only got ten peso rate
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Not excusing the exchange rate shortfall.
Everyone traveling in Baja should know that if you pay for anything in Peso's its fuel.
Jeez. That's Baja 101!
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roundtuit
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In Loreto the other day attendant made special attention to the pump being on zeros. Never had a problem in pemex south fo mulege, get gas every other
week since Oct
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comitan
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The way to eliminate all the problems at the gas pump is to have a Mexican plated car, Never have any problems!!!!!!!
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Capt. George
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si senor! I've noticed in San Ignacio many times one set of pumps only (or trying only) to serve Mexicanos...while gringos directed toward other
set of pumps...
Is it just my paranoia or ???? Only had troulble once in S.I. did the gas cap kick, they've never forgotten...still watch the new guys!
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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Sorry for the confusion but yes, here in Mexico $100 is a hundred pesos...now, not true about having mexican plates...rip offs are rip offs for
everyone...in Guerrero Negro an amigo of mine who works at the little pemex told me to always pull up to a certain pump as it was the only one that
was accurate...tons of mexicans fuel at the other pumps too...only the amigos know the score! And for those of you who haven't been to baja in awhile
there is a new Pemex just north of the immigration stop near Guerrero Negro so you don't have to go into town to fuel up now. Make sure to say Hi from
Shari to Celia who works the till in the little store there...she's awesome, and old amiga.
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woody with a view
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And for those of you who haven't been to baja in awhile there is a new Pemex just north of the immigration stop near Guerrero Negro so you don't have
to go into town to fuel up now. Make sure to say Hi from Shari to Celia who works the till in the little store there...she's awesome
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Muchas......
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bajabound2005
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We ALWAYS pay in pesos; got ripped off by the propane guy once by paying in dollars; no mas; siempre pesos. For gas (for the car) we've learned to
get over the fill it up (in any language) and now specify, in pesos, how much we want. $300 is a fill on a nearly empty tank. When ask them to fill
it; they overfill it trying to hit some round number on the tank which never happens anyway but some, none-the-less, ends up on the ground, or all
down the side of our car. In many years, I think we only got ripped off once at a Pemex.
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Capt. George
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I love stopping for fuel...it's almost like a little game!
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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Minnow
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You want to have some real fun? I usually bring along a 5 gallon gas can to fill up first. Then when they get 22 liters in it make a big deal about
it and check the look on their faces. The only fair pumps in baja are in El
Rosario. Thank you Antonio.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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oldhippie
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I just drove over 2000 miles down baja and back. Pump was zeroed each time and I wrote down the number of liters, peso amount, and odometer reading
each time. Always paid in pesos. I don't think I got scammed anywhere. Everything seems to add up. Of course, maybe I got scammed everywhere. The gas
I bought in Cd. Constitucion did cause more pinging than any other fill-up. If I did the arithmetic correctly (long hand, I forgot the calculator)
it's about $2.30 per gallon for regular.
Was thinking about writing a trip report, but.............I'm lazy. I will say that the gringofication of Todos Santos/Pescadero bummed me out but on
the other hand the San Pedrito trailer park has gone back to nature and the camping is free. Spent a few pleasant days there.
Thanks for the hospitality Shari.
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BCSTech
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GAS SCAM VARIATION
We had heard about the crooks working the gas stations in Santa Rosalia but I had never seen them in action until our last trip. Here's how one
variation of the scam works;
Your friendly attendant zeros out the pump, then "looks" like he starts the pump but really doesn't. All he does is punch in some numbers but does not
press the "go" button. Even if you're standing there watching, he'll put his arm up to lean against the pump and engage you in conversation and
casually block the pump display with his arm so you can't see that the numbers are not changing, as no gas is being pumped.
He may also try to distract you by asking if you want your windshield washed and points to his partner in crime behind you who has already started
washing your windows.
When he finally pulls his arm away and removes the pump nozzle like he's finished, there is 50 or 100 pesos showing on the pump display, regardless of
what amount you had asked for. When you point this out, he acts surprised like he didn't understand your request and offers to restart the pump, but
mentioning that he will add the amount for the phantom gas he's already "pumped." This time he'll start the pump correctly and walk away.
Don't let these criminals get away with this. Anytime they attempt to restart a pump on you, know that you are being scammed. Offer to call the police
if they insist.
Finally, he may even try to short change you if you do not pay with exact change. Always know in advance how much change you're supposed to get, smile
and keep your hand out until they fork it over.
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Wiles
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Remember when the exchange rate was 4,000 pesos? Now that was some entertainment down at the ole Pemex.
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beachbum1A
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Speaking of fueling up; Let's say I do not want to fill my tank-is it more "common" to order by litres or by $$pesos?
Recently I asked the attendant for $200 pesos of 87 (and held out a $200 peso bill). He looked confused and I had to repeat myself. Made me wonder if
I should have ordered an approximate number of litres instead of by pesos... 
Just do it!
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abreojos
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Doscientos de la verde por favor. Will get you 200 pesos of Magna.
Always tip.
[Edited on 2-15-2007 by abreojos]
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beachbum1A
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Gotcha! Thanks.........
Just do it!
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bajalou
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Just a note that some of the pumps have to be restarted if they automatically shut off and remain off for more than 45 seconds. If you're standing
there, you'll know if this is the situation. (usually when the attendant walks away for other customers) And usually when filling more than one
tank.
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