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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
Was thinking a separate bike path following the main highway would be nice...I know, I know, ain't gonna happen...but would be pretty cool!
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The new HWY 1... they are building in Sur may be safer for them, but not by my standard. Unless a lane is built for them..Mexico should Ban them now.
As a after thought, much of Mex 1 is used by locals and quads on the side road....that should be where they are allow/made to travel. I know, i know
many places have no side...just a drop off.
Albert G
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Pops
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
Was thinking a separate bike path following the main highway would be nice...I know, I know, ain't gonna happen...but would be pretty cool!
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The "main highway" was a bike trail before it was paved!  
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pops
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
Was thinking a separate bike path following the main highway would be nice...I know, I know, ain't gonna happen...but would be pretty cool!
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The "main highway" was a bike trail before it was paved!
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Here's the original Baja Main Highway between San Agustin and Cataviņa... The truck shown is coming to it from the new highway, a mile to the west.
This is just south of the famous El Camino Real waterhole of Agua Dulce...
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Markitos21
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My brother and I passed (very slowly) two blokes headed south near Santa Rosalia. We where wondering the same thing. How the hell did these fools make
it this far? A few days later they arrived in La Paz and where next door to us at the Pension. They where from Germany and told us that US drivers
where the worse in the world because our roads are so large and safe we didnt know how to drive. Can you imagine the poor truck drivers that had to
dodge those guys? Needless to say we didnt get along much after that. As a matter of fact they found somewhere else to hole up in while in La Paz
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Mexitron
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Hmm...maybe they could replace the Escalara Nautica with Escalara Bicicleta
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David K
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Hey Markitos!!! When are you coming back north? Is you boat down there now...? Enjoyed the cruise, a few years ago!
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TMW
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Those Germans were just joking with you. The Autoban and the two lanes are built like the U.S. highways, basically same width. I've driven in Germany
and France and they are really good highways, great place to visit. On the Autoban the speedlimit is 60 for the right lane and commercial trucks are
only allowed to pass in the left lane not stay there. Speed limit in left lane is unlimited but a cop can still give you a ticket if he thinks your
going too fast for the vehicle your driving. Also you must pull over from the left lane if a faster vehicle comes up behind you.
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DENNIS
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TW ---
You mean the Autobahn is a two lane road? No more?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Markitos21
They where from Germany and told us that US drivers where the worse in the world because our roads are so large and safe we didnt know how to drive.
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Having biked in Europe and US, I would agree that US drivers are worse for bicyclists, but not for that reason. US drivers are odd ducks in that they
think bikes are kids toys not meant for the roads, while most other countries seem to think differently about bikes. For instance, in Italy and Spain
they drive crazier with regards to US norms, but they show bikes more consideration -- only in the US have I experienced car drivers that purposely
cut close to bikes or yell at bikers,... and I can't imagine what makes these drivers act like such jerks. Can't tell you much about Mexican drivers
in Baja, as I only Mt Bike there.
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DENNIS
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I can attest to the Mexican practice of biker protection in my area.
I live on a five mile windey road hill, from the bottom to the end. It has one lane on each side, up and down.
Too often, on a weekend morning, a driver will travel the distance at three miles per hour, running interference for one or two biciclists, dressed
in their stupid glowing uniforms.
The driver of the car has effectively taken the road as his own and couldn't care less about other drivers who may have something better to do than
crawl up the hill at his speed.
These are people who deserve a road trip on HWY one.
[Edited on 6-27-2007 by DENNIS]
[Edited on 6-27-2007 by DENNIS]
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woody with a view
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maybe a soft "nudge" on the bumper will get their attention. when he pulls over to inspect the damage pull along side and tell the idiot, "i'll see
you at the top!"
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Al G
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think bikes are kids toys not meant for the roads
You damn right they are not meant for roads and for sure not on roads with traffic doing the speed limit of 40-60 mph and these marooons doing 5-10
mph...you cannot be so "enlighten" as to think that is safe. In 5-10 years when the traffic exceeds safety for even cars...you will still be saying
you have a right to the road. I say register these aholes charge them $20,000 a year in vehicle fees and build roads for them...don't expect us to
foot the bill and give you a free ride.
The riders should be smoged for sweat oder and excess gassing
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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bajadock
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Geez, I thought this pot would have been bubbling more. Been shopping for tile and doors for new house most of the day.
1. Don't know about "bicycle guys", but this guy who enjoys bicycling admits some bikers seem to want to torment drivers. Not smart!
2. US drivers seem to have a need for anger venting. Bikers, lacking 4,000 lbs of steel protecting them are an easy target. Agree with MTGOAT about
other countries and their attitudes towards bicycles.
3. As JFK's prez council on phys fitness didn't take very well, those who exercise regularly are categorized as fanatics, lunatics, nuts and gaunt. I
am not gaunt. My trash can shows the evidence of my beer consumption skills!
4. Dennis, yes, some of the outfits are perfect for only certain neighborhoods of San Francisco or ice-dancing. But, given the battle between drivers
and bikers, better to wear day-glo than be wearing pavement/dirt as a result of "I couldn't see you and what were you doing on the street?".
5. Drivers in Colorado are much more willing to provide room to bicycles, IMHO, due to the # of bikers on the road. There are still some idiots on
the small saddles AND the captain's chairs on the road in Colorado, too.
Safety should be #1 on the road for all, or getting to point B never happens. I'm certain we all have friends, family or acquaintances that have met
terrible fates on the road.
Safe traveling this upcoming busy week. ALLTHEBEST
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Al G
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Thanks DK...hope you don't mind me coping that one...always wanted to know what Mex1 looked like before
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Al G
think bikes are kids toys not meant for the roads
You damn right they are not meant for roads and for sure not on roads with traffic doing the speed limit of 40-60 mph and these marooons doing 5-10
mph...you cannot be so "enlighten" as to think that is safe. In 5-10 years when the traffic exceeds safety for even cars...you will still be saying
you have a right to the road. I say register these aholes charge them $20,000 a year in vehicle fees and build roads for them...don't expect us to
foot the bill and give you a free ride.
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Be careful where you start tossing your bombs....
May I suggest we get rid of the oversized RVs that aren't meant for such a small road? Or the old geezers trying to navigate them....???
Not trying to start any wars but just a friendly reminder to look in the mirror and lighten up a bit.
Zac
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woody with a view
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the thing is, is, rv's aren't any larger than an 18 wheeler.
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
the thing is, is, rv's aren't any larger than an 18 wheeler. |
But think of it from the truck driver's perspective...I'm sure they don't like all the RVs, etc. Again my point wasn't to point fingers but to
lighten up....
It's a dangerous road regardless of what you're driving or who is driving...be careful out there.
Zac
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woody with a view
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It's a dangerous road regardless of what you're driving or who is driving...be careful out there.
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'specially if you ride a bicycle and two LARGE vehicles are bearing down on your own piece of space and time  .
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pappy
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i ride my bike everyday, but think about the safety of folks in autos-in other words, i stay well within the lines of bike lane or as far on the
shoulder as possible. i COMPLETELY hate bikers who disregard the lines,etc. and ride out in the traffic lane, which in turn causes me(or anyone else)
to have to cross over into oncoming traffic lanes so we don't run the friggin' bikers over....why can't there be a "legal shove" law? ya know, a
friendly tap with bumper like woody said....
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burnrope
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I'll take bicycles on Hwy1 over oversize RV's anytime, although I'd never ride a bicycle on Hwy1. With the road being so narrow they seemingly have
to drive 12 to 18 inches over the center line, making them impossible to pass. I've lost mirrors on my truck encountering them coming from the other
direction. It would be great when they're caravaning they could at least leave some room inbeween their rigs to fit in when passing.
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