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Barry A.
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Thank you Keri----------
Just got off the phone with son, Phil. He says that the 9 man CDF crew trying to save the "Ranch" and the Fish hatchery, as well as an elderly lady
living at the ranch, almost lost their lives-----actually had to get in their "fire shelters", and then when things got too hot even in the "shelters"
had to roll into the big pond at the ranch. Two were badly burned and medi-vac'ed out. Their is a big investigation going on right now at the ranch,
and nobody is allowed in there. They (CDF) lost their Fire engine---completely burned. It is not clear how this happened, but the elderly lady did
get out, so no loss of life as yet.
AS stated, these Fire Fighters are HEROS, and deserve every "perk" they get, IMHO.
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DianaT
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Barry,
So sad to hear about this, and so sad for your loss. We hope the firefighters will be OK.
That area is one of our favorite areas --- over the years, we have spent lots and lots of time there.
And yes, those fire fighters deserve everything
Diane and John
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CaboMagic
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Barry A: please receive and accept our prayers and kindest wishes .. glad your son found Dulce safe & unharmed ... our hopes that those injured
will recover swiftly... material possessions can be replaced no matter the costs or inconvenience .. Tommy & Lori
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Alan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
Barry,
So sad to hear about this, and so sad for your loss. We hope the firefighters will be OK.
Diane and John |
The reports I have are that all injuries were relatively minor.
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MoFish
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Just got back from the Mammoth area, lots of smoke but the winds are down and the humidity is up so maybe they can get a handle on it.
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Barry A.
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Alan-----I do hope that you are correct, but we heard that at least two of the firefighters had to be medi-vac'ed out with 3rd degree burns. The
others survived by use of their fireshelters, and rolling into a deep pond on the property when the shelters became too hot. There was an indepth
investigation today, but have not heard any results, yet. One fire engine was destroyed right beside the house.
If you have any details we would love to know them------we are not even sure what agency these heroes are from----CDF, BLM, or USFS.
Apparently our ranch was the only totally destroyed property, thank God, but we are keeping our fingers crossed, and prayers active.
Thanks once more for all the kind words, and info from you fellow NOMADS.
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Barry A.
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This report just in from my son:
Today we just had to put out a hay stack that flared up. I did tour the Ashworth property again with JD and Betty Lynn. Oak Creek is the only big
burn all day coming from the campground down to the Hatchery. They were working hard on it and I think the Ashworth Property now provides a good fire
break so I hope it will not get by. Otherwise clean up will begin. It seems as though the big fires are all up high in the mountains now and
hopefully the valley fires are done. That is about all the news for today. I did get a good nights sleep. Thank you all for your prayers
Phil
So----it would appear that all is getting close to stable.
Barry A.
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Paula
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Barry,
I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Going through all this must be terrible for you and you family and community. I can barely imagine...
Paula
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Barry A.
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Thanks, Paula------but you know, it just "happened"----we always sorta knew it would someday, and it did.
Now we are all getting together to figure out how we can rebuild an even better place than before. This fire certainly errased a lot of the
accumulated "junk", and over-growth on the property, and now the view of the Sierra's and Inyo range is supurb!!!------no trees to obstruct your view,
you know. So, we will carefully evaluate, plan carefully, and rebuild a magnificant place that we all can enjoy-------at least that is the plan for
now.  It is still a magnificent property (40 acres) with rare full water
rights, and two creeks flowing thru it----------you gotta love it.
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Paula
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Way to be, Barry!
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bajaguy
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Here in Carson City. Wind is from the south, we have plenty of smoke and ash, probably from the Independence/Big Pine fires. Visibility is about 3
miles.
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Paula
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You make an excellent point, Soulpatch. Lives sould always come before stuff.
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Barry A.
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SoulPatch---------your point IS well taken, but again I say----these guys were at the ranch to save an older resident who was still there---------at
this they succeeded, tho I do not know the details. I feel terrible that there were injuries, and almost loss of life, but I in no way feel guilty.
As a former Fire Fighter, I have nothing but respect and admiration for my fellow fire-fighters, even tho I know that they revel in what they are
doing (as did I). I applaud their efforts and success, and pray for their safety, always.
I am not in the least bitter, (mainly because I agree with you) but I think it interesting that 1000 yards SE (down wind) was the State Fish Hatchery,
and the fire was stopped there by two retardant bombers, one helecoptor, and a hoard of fire fighters even tho nobody was still there-----they had all
been evacuated---------you can draw your own conclusions-----it is simply the "way things are", and always will be, and probably the way they should
be.
This private land that burned is simply too valuable to abandon-----few places in the Valley have complete "water rights" since the City of LA bought
up 99% of the water rights many years ago, and that alone makes this property invaluable. Fully knowing the danger, we WILL rebuild knowing that we
could never duplicate what we have, and except the dangers in the future.
I salute you for "looking out" for your fellow fire-fighters, but you also realize, I am sure, that fire fighters do their "thing" because they love
it, and love helping out their fellow man.
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07/08/2007 - A lightning strike started the blaze that's forced hundreds of people to evacuate the town of Independence.
Firefighters have also closed campgrounds and stopped traffic on US Highway 395 between Independence and Big Pine because of the 12,000 acre fire.
A helicopter brought the 3 injured firefighters to Fresno Community Regional Hospital Saturday night.
More than 400 firefighters are trying to protect homes, and so far they've been successful.
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Barry-- sorry for your loss- and yes you should rebuild. I lived in Carson City for 13 years and the firefighters who fight forest firres are a
special breed. There are crews from the Nevada State Prisons that fight fires and it's an honor assignment- not one without danger. While I lived in
CC a crew from the prison was trapped by a fire in a canyon just west of CC and all were killed. A monument stands in that canyon as a permanant
reminder of the sacrifices of those brave, if somewhat flawed men. Unfortunately the growth of CC has been to the west up that canyon and now houses
occupy areas that used to be a buffer from the sierra foothills and the fire danger posed in a typical Nevada dry season. People speed by the
monument without ever knowing what it represents both in the sacrifice and the danger it implies.
God bless and best wishes to your family.-- Norm
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Those firefighters are brave.  In '94 fourteen of 'em were killed on Storm King
Mountain in Colorado. Wiped out nearly a whole crew from Prineville, OR. Fire is the only thing that goes uphill faster than it goes downhill. Never
get on the uphill side of a forest fire.
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Sorry Barry. I know the feeling of loss. You WILL come out on top. You've got a good handle and attitude on life.
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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Barry A.
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Soulpatch------------THANK GOD!!!!!
Thank you for reporting this--------we certainly were concerned, and could not find out how they were doing.
Still have not heard the results of the "investigation".
We did learn that "friends" of our relatives (relatives were away from the ranch on vacation) decended on the residences at the ranch and got many
small portable valuables OUT hours before the flames took over the place, including most of the vehicles, and all the pets-----------many blessings
are forthcoming, and friends are sure valuable in a time like this. We were not even aware of this "happening" until yesterday------God bless our
friends.
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Yes, the OC Register outdoors reporter stated injuries were minor but that six of them were taken to the hospital for treatment of smoke inhalation.
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Alan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Still have not heard the results of the "investigation".
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On a conference call yesterday for the Operational Area it was reported that it is anticipated it will take several weeks before a "Green Sheet"
(Investigative Report) will be issued by CalFire (CDF).
Two engines were burned over and 3 FF's were airlifted. Actual injuries were reported as minor but they were also treated for smoke inhalation.
(Definitely not a fun process!)
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