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The Greatest ?
Nah, that was Elvis. More people mourned his death, too.
It locked-out the LD trunks in Indio. I was working that night.
Since CaboRon's snit got all of the posts deleted, this might not make sense to some, BUT.........................
3:10 to Yuma was great Lived up to the reviews. Too bad the Good Dad (Christian Bale) Dies, but they leave open the possibility that the BAD, BAD
guy (Russell Crowe) survives You have to love a moral statement like that.
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Roberto, I'm glad your recall is better than mine. As I said, I'm no good at sizing crowds. I do remember a LOT of non-ticket-holders outside the
seating area, even parked on nearby hills. With those screens and amps they probably had a pretty good view. I don't know why I thought the Soprano
was Mexican. I'm also glad you remembered to bring a camera and sorry I forgot. I guess I'm getting like Ol' Dutch myself. As Carlin says, "When
Reagan got Alzheimer's, how did they know?"
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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oldhippie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
| Quote: | Originally posted by oldhippie
By definition, there's always only one "most popular" tenor. He's gone. Who is the heir apparent? Andrea Bocelli? I just listened to one of his CDs
but it was mostly duets that I skipped through. |
Oh good we can get back to the discussion.... Andrea Bocelli just does not have the sheer strength of Pavaroitti, Carreras or Placido Domingo.....
although he is a wonderful Belle Canto singer as was Luciano !
There are several new tenors who might take up the challenge.
I am looking forward to seeing them perform,
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Me too! It's quite a tradition. The most emotional singing.
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Andrea Bocelli just does not have the sheer strength of Pavaroitti, Carreras or Placido Domingo..... although he is a wonderful Belle Canto singer as
was Luciano !
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Agree about Bocelli but it won't make any difference cause his audience has no clue. They claim him as an operatic tenor so that's what he'll be.
Domingo is #1. He's always had the better voice but not the charisma. There's that special something about an Italian tenor,
especially one that has the looks of the neighborhood butcher or truck driver.
We loved Pavarotti cause he was Italian, ugly puppy dog cute and could sing.
BTW, Karajan, who heard both Caruso and Pavarotti sing said Pavarotti was better. Good enough for me.
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Placido gets the "Nicest Guy" award for his activities off the stage, especially after the big D.F. quake. But Luciano had the best voice of any
artist in my lifetime barring all other considerations.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Dave ,
I have worked closely with both and you are right about the clarity and strength of Placido's voice.
On a production of Carmen at the SF Opera ... i was with Domingo each night at the top of the cliff. When he would stand and raise his rifle,
i as the prop guy would actually fire a real rifle with a one quarter load. We always had a few minutes to chat while waiting for our cue......
A fun guy and awesome voice.
There is something very special about creating the voice...it takes about three days to build to the point where they can sing unassisted to four
thousand people in an opera house..... ..incredable !!
Great times and greater singing have i seldom heard from both of these tenors.
Bravo!
CaboRon
[Edited on 9-8-2007 by CaboRon]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Domingo is #1. We loved Pavarotti cause he was Italian, ugly puppy dog cute and could sing.
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So, a new nationalist debate ensues. The Spaniard has more talent than the Italiano.
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A Fine Singer
Just wanted to be sure that everyone knows I liked Pavarotti. His passing is sad, but he wasn't going to be making any further appearances and we do
have his recordings. Considering his ailment, the end was no doubt a blessing. Having lost many friends and relatives to Cancer, I know that it is a
cruel journey.
I have to say that my favorites are the Irish Tenors (Finbar Wright. Anthony Kearns. Ronan Tynan), but that could be because I love that music.
One question for the aficionado(s).
I have seen Minuets performed, especially in Movie period pieces, but I wasn't aware they were common in Operas as Ron writes.
OK, I see that Ronnie has corrected his post to read Minutes. That makes sense. Still, the question is: do they
do Minuets in Operas ? "Enquiring" Minds want to know.
[Edited on 9-8-2007 by MrBillM]
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Folks, there's no comparison between Andrea Bocelli and Luciano Pavarotti.
One is a raw talent, the other an educated and trained musician. Bocelli has a beautiful voice, true enough, but could not carry an opera. His range
is also limited, compared to trained tenors.
They operate(d) in different worlds and comparing them makes no sense. And Elvis? What does he have to do with this?
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A few operas include minuets. Lully, Mozart, I think.
Didn't know Pavarotti did Bel Canto though, thought that had been usurped by the sopranos.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oldlady
A few operas include minuets. Lully, Mozart, I think.
Didn't know Pavarotti did Bel Canto though, thought that had been usurped by the sopranos. |
Oldlady,
I bellieve you are referring to Castrati, used in Motzart's
operas. Today usually performed by a mezzo soprano.
CaboRon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bel_canto
[Edited on 9-8-2007 by CaboRon]
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No...I had forgotten about Castrati and was wracking my tired brain for minuets set in operas (I know they're there) and figured Lully or Mozart the
most likely.
When I think of Bel Canto I think of Callas. She carried a tune pretty good too.
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Gentle Adonis wounded lies, dying, dying.
What message, O Cythera, dost thou send?
Beat, beat your white breasts, O ye weeping maidens,
And in wild grief your mourning garments rend.
Sappho of Lesbos
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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