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gnukid
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I am gathering that preferred FTA equipment is
Viewsat Ultra receiver $125-200
dish 1.8m order from guadalara
LNB (which? is best)
coaxial cable
signal strength detector
tv dinner
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BajaBad
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Quote from Dennis above (or below... who knows):
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BajaBad.........
You will burn in Hell if you try to cheat this god-like company. All of your chickens will come home to roast. Your eyeballs will pop and leak down
your Hawaiian shirt, over your ample belly to pool on the cushion below your brain pouch.
In the mean time, the History Channel is fun, in the mid 200s.
Like Comitan says...Be bad, it feels good.
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Is it just me, or is it a bit funny that I am a female, not an ample-bellied male? 
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Hook
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I suppose receiving HDTV is out of the question with FTA?
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Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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So far there are no reputable HDTV receivers for FTA.
Just can't have everything, gosh durn it!
[Edited on 10-16-2007 by losfrailes]
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Hook
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Well, I'll never know until I ask, Wayne. I do appreciate and respect your info.
I have to wonder what the value of some of this FTA hardware (dish, receiver, LNB) will be when the switchover to HD occurs in 2009. That's getting
pretty close.
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2009
That is the "current" date for switchover to Over-the-air Digital Broadcasts and vacating the Analog spectrum which will then be put up for auction by
the Feds. It doesn't affect the Satellite transmissions.
The DIGITAL Broadcasts will NOT necessarily be HD. All of the TV sets produced after January of this year are compatible for Digital reception.
Or, so I understand.
[Edited on 10-17-2007 by MrBillM]
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
That is the "current" date for switchover to Over-the-air Digital Broadcasts and vacating the Analog spectrum which will then be put up for auction by
the Feds. It doesn't affect the Satellite transmissions.
The DIGITAL Broadcasts will NOT necessarily be HD. All of the TV sets produced after January of this year are compatible for Digital reception.
Or, so I understand.
[Edited on 10-17-2007 by MrBillM] |
So, you think the terrestrial broadcasters will be sending a different signal up to the birds than their terrestrial signals in 2009?
I dont.
I think that most all the major networks and well as the non-premium content providers CNN, ESPN, etc.) will just broadcast the HD signal. They will
rely on viewers with a SDTV to get a converter.
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comitan
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Something to explore:
http://www.canamsatellites.com/index.html
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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losfrailes
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Hook
No malintent. I wish it were possible today with HDTV! However, as yet nothing that is working as well as they would like. There is some chatter on
various websites about the 'almost working' HDTV, but so far nada.
The current state of the art receivers are the Viewsat Ultra due to the ability to update them with a flash memory usb stick. Makes it real nice.
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So Los F. whay system would you recommend
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rts551
At the present time, a 1.8 meter dish with Viewsat Ultra receiver.
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Hook, what Bill is saying is that the switchover is to digital broadcasting, not HD. As far as I know, he's correct. I would bet that a lot of the
smaller channels will broadcast digital signals in standard def for quite a while.
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If there is any thing about the whole issue that may be illegal it's that you are not paying IVA on a service being delivered and used in Mexico.
I would think that is the the "most" illegal thing about it.
Are they going to come after you for it? I sincerely doubt it.
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
Dwight David Eisenhower
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajabus
Are they going to come after you for it? I sincerely doubt it. |
That's because Mexico has but 1.4 million sat subscribers. Even if you add in cable it's barely over 5 million. The revenuers have bigger fish to fry.
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gnukid
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I hear CNX Mini, duo, or trio is excellent with USB too wondering if any have tried it.
Also many report there is a rash of Viewsat Ultra Clones that have failed quickly so be sure to buy from a dealer and not ebay etc... http://www.ftatalk.com/
Which satelites are you guys getting? How many dishes?
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Digital Broadcasting
I think that your comment/question indicates a misunderstanding of the upcoming changeover from direct Over-the-Air Analog
Broadcasting to Over-the-Air Digital Broadcasting. The legislation ONLY covers the broadcasts now picked up via antenna and the
inclusion of Digital-capable tuners in all TVs marketed after May 07 unless the vendor specifically notes that they are not digital-compatible (old
stock). For those who still have TVs with analog-only tuners at the time, the Feds will supply them with (2) $40 value vouchers per household for the
purchase of digital converter boxes to allow them to continue use of the older TVs.
There is NOTHING in the mandate concerning HDTV. Considering the fact that demand for HDTV is still lukewarm, I personally believe
that the majority of the Digital Over-the-Air broadcasts will NOT be HDTV until sometime much farther in the future due to the
increased bandwidth necessary for HD broadcasting. Even among those now broadcasting in HD, the majority are still broadcasting in 1080I or less due
to bandwidth constraints. DirecTv IS advertising 1080P.
NONE of this has anything to do with Satellite Uplink or Downlink broadcasting. That is already in Digital MPEG-2 format.
More Info is available at: http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/digitaltv.html
BTW, when I mentioned the "moral" considerations previously, I wasn't making a personal judgement of same. Merely indicating the status. Personally,
I may decide tomorrow or at some time in the future to buy a Viewsat for the same use. I have no opinion on what decisions others make in this
respect.
[Edited on 10-17-2007 by MrBillM]
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Directv is licensed by the FCC for transmission in the US. Ain't my fault if their beam hangs over into Mexico and we get to watch whatever channels
we pay for in the US(except spot beamed local channels). HDTV will probably screw up everything in the US, Canada and Mexico until the communications
gurus can get it all figured out without us all having to go out and buy a boat load of new equipment.
A quick afterthought: Pirating in Mexico isn't illegal.
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You're certainly correct about the mandate only being for digital delivery by Feb of 2009, Bill. I was unaware of that.
But from a practical standpoint, will these content providers really continue to broadcast their SDTV signal (in digital in 2009) if the majority of
them are also broadcasting in HDTV digital? Would they really continue to allow the sat services to supply their viewers with an SDTV signal with all
the other competitiors already on the HDTV bandwagon? It doesnt seem practical to me. Direct TV is now touting over 70 HD channels and 100 by the end
of the year.
I'm sure some esotheric sat channel will still be providing you with your Perry Mason reruns in SD, though. So, maybe we are just different types of
viewers.
But I think that HDTV purchases are anything BUT lukewarm. It is a stampede, at this point.
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It will be fine regardless. Broadcasters will send a digital signal only, in the near future. TVs will be digital or you will use a low cost digital
signal to analog tv converter box, presumably. The signal will be oftenbe HD which could mean anything over previous analog resolutions of 400 lines
up to 1080 but could be something between. Your tuner will take the signal and send something to your screen that takes best advantage of the signal
and screen combo. It is all quite flexible.
I made a committment to HD a long time ago. I have HD tuners and HD cameras and HD sat and HD DVDs and I carry these things through mex and they work
on all old school TVs plus new ones too. Almost all devices have built in converters and many options to get the best of what you got. Just keep in
mind, its extremely rare to have full 1080p HD signal and have a TV monitor that is 1080p which is fully 4-5 times more pixels (stuff) than old school
TV.
Interestingly, now local US broadcasters are sending an analog HD uncompressed signal available by rabbit ear antena. That's the highest available
quality only through analog rabbit ear antena. Try it, you will be blown away.
And for those waiting, you might not like it. Its gross to see so much detail of people so clearly and a little distracting from relaxing with a beer
when the detail is making you brain explode.
Anyway, I don't watch much TV. I take hi rez pictures and shoot video in HD and bring it home and to parties and then we watch videos of the sea and
our adventures on HD. There are few things as beautiful on HD than the Sea of Cortez.
Anyway, here are very recent review of HD TVs
http://reviews.cnet.com/Televisions/2001-6475_7-0.html
http://www.consumersearch.com/www/electronics/hdtv/
http://www.pcmag.com/products/0,,qn=All+HDTVs,00.asp
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