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Mexitron
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I would have thought that Donald Trump would have been concerned about this...talk about hitting 'em in the money belt, this stuffs happening on the
toll road in front of his new developments.
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
I would have thought that Donald Trump would have been concerned about this...talk about hitting 'em in the money belt, this stuffs happening on the
toll road in front of his new developments. |
Many have said that all he did was sell his name for the projects and really has no financial interest. Quien sabe?
Hey, did you see my reply about Minch in that other post?
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Mexitron
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Hook--oh yah! Which thread was that on? I must have been offline for awhile and missed the response...sorry...
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Woooosh
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If the crime in northern Baja isn't slowing the economy down enough- the local real estate professionals are helping drive away business...
Baja Fair Trade Group Expelled from AMPI
Board not re-elected
BY NANCY CONROY
The members of the Baja Fair Trade real estate group have been expelled from the local real estate organization in Rosarito (AMPI) for advocating Baja
real estate reform. The group recently announced that they would promote the concepts of Full Disclosure, Escrow, and Title Insurance in order to
protect buyers in the Baja marketplace. The announcement was severely criticized by a local group of real estate agents. These individuals accused the
group of slander and bad attitudes, and orchestrated their summary expulsion from AMPI. Brian Flock, an expelled Baja Fair Trade member, said
“Disclosure clearly hit a nerve within the old guard leadership of the Rosarito associations. I suppose that disclosure was too much of a threat to
the bread-and-butter of their businesses.” A week after the affair, AMPI elected a different board of directors.
Baja Fair Trade had presented a proposal to improve consumer protection in the Baja real estate market. Their proposal included a disclosure form that
would require all members to disclose known defects in a property to potential buyers. For example, Baja Fair Trade would require members to disclose
sewage issues or title litigation. Additionally, Baja Fair Trade argued that agents should advise clients to use Escrow, obtain Title Insurance, legal
guidance, a home inspection, and use a professional closing method. Although these measures reflect the ordinary expectations of any buyer, the
proposals were treated as heretical by some members of the Rosarito real estate groups.
The brouhaha began when an AMPI member, Ronald Hoff, circulated an email alleging that the group members were “Ugly Americans”, and arguing that “for
you to come here and promote yourselves as “experts” who are going to “clean things up” is both laughable and embarrassing”. Hoff asked “who appointed
you sheriff?”, and accused the group of associating with the Gringo Gazette.
Then, Willie Bautista, the president of another local real estate organization (APIR), sent a letter to Baja Fair Trade rebuking them for their “bad
attitude”. Bautista wrote “You have the attitude that we should change our ways to make our methods of doing business just like in the States. You
assert that the Baja Fair Trade group will clean things up and make it safe for the buyer to purchase in Mexico…It is your underlying attitude that
needs adjustment. You are new here. You are foreigners. You do not understand the “Mexican way of doing real estate”” Bautista demanded that Baja Fair
Trade apologize for their actions, adding that if they did not “we refuse to forgive and forget”.
Baja Fair Trade member Victor Loza, who is one of three Mexican members of the group, wrote that “the message sent is an unfortunate use of a
leadership position to multiply the idea that Americans must be silent when in our country”, adding that as a Mexican professional he disagreed with
this “bully attitude”. He warned that sending the wrong message would hurt business, saying “imagine how clients will view our association” after they
heard about the affair.
In a written statement signed by AMPI leader Gustavo Torres, Loza was prohibited from becoming an AMPI member and told that “this information is to be
shared with other local associations”. Members Brian and Ivonne Flock were ordered to immediately apologize, and notified that if they did not, they
would be summarily dismissed from AMPI. The Flocks did not apologize, and Torres attempted to physically prevent Flock from leaving the premises with
a written copy of the dismissal letter. Flock said “The so-called justice process by the leaders has proven to be a sham.” Baja Fair Trade has posted
the letters, emails, and expulsion documents on their website at www.bajafairtrade.com.
This incident is expected to seriously hurt the reputations of both AMPI and APIR. However, a week after the incident, AMPI elected a new board of
directors. The new officials have solid real estate credentials and may be able to restore AMPI’s credibility after this affair.
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Woooosh
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I guess Mr. Torres has stopped looking for his kidnapped assistant. Maybe he should just go golfing with OJ.
Hugo Torres Proposes:
Agreement between Tijuana, Playas de Rosarito and Ensenada to Protect Tourism
Rosarito’s mayor-elect Hugo Torres Chabert proposed the need for a collaborative agreement that would serve to unify the efforts of Tijuana, Rosarito
and Ensenada for the purpose of securing a safe Tourist Corridor for visitors. Tourism is the essential element of the region and a priority for the
new administration of the “Quinto Municipio” (Rosarito was the 5th to be granted municipal city status).
That is what the Mayor-Elect expressed on October 6th at a meeting of the Grupo Político Ciudadanos de Ensenada A.C., a political action group. He
stressed the need for the coastal government administrations to work together and support each other. He deems it necessary due to the security risks
taking place in the State.
“The industry of tourism is of utmost importance, and we must take good care of it. When the new city administration begins, a priority will be to
protect it by decree. We’re in an era of conflict and need to act swiftly. I’ve had talks with the mayors-elect of Tijuana and Ensenada and the
challenge is before each of our mayoral responsibilities. We all agree to begin the collaborative process,” Hugo Torres explained.
There is a proposal in the works to create a Policía Metropolitana (Metropolitan Police) force to avoid situations such as recently occurred when
police gave up a chase of a semi that crossed the city border to Ensenada and had to give up the pursuit. In a similar situation, Hugo Torres
explained, any illegal act that may affect tourism from one municipality to the other has repercussions on the entire industry.
Hugo Torres explained that to reactivate the tourism industry also implies the open flow of tourism traffic along the coastal highways with efficient
checkpoints and of streamlining the procedures for buses with tourism from the United States. At the same time is it important to improve our
infrastructure for making our cities more attractive for to visitors and for our residents.
“We need to collaborate efforts to improve public safety and attract tourism. Our cities are basically co-dependent toward this goal, though we are
autonomous in each of regions. What happens in any part of our State has repercussions on our entire economy,” he pointed out.
Regarding the clean-up of our police departments and anti-corruption efforts, he said that each city must act on their own. There are efforts taking
place at the State level for bringing justice to corrupt officials.
Other topics that were discussed during the question and answer session: the need to rekindle the fishing industry, to protect species such as lobster
as a prime industry for the corridor and of international fame, to start thinking of strategies for the water needs of the near future.
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Al G
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I realize Torres is a very common name in Mexico...I hope they are not related 
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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Minnow
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
| Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
| Quote: | Originally posted by Al G
Yes...you may be right...for now. This is the most media exposure and board and clubs notice in a very long time(don't know how long)
Plus border delay on a major holiday weekend...just does not say much. |
Define "very long time". You mean since you started going to baja a couple of years ago, or when you started posting on this board, a couple of years
ago. You newbies kill me. |
I've been going for just a few years now. I think I started back in '91.
I've altered my northern baja driving habits for now.
Stupid newbies......I guess I'm an idiot.
How big is a minnow's brain anyway? |
They must not test you FF's on reading. Otherwise you would have been able to figure out who that post was directed at.
Tell me, Soul, is this the most exposure, as to the crime issue, you have seen in your 16 years going to baja. Because I recall this sort of thing
popping up every few years, then it dies down, then it comes back. It is kind of like the tide.
I would guess my brain is about the same size as most peoples, I can just put more in it. That goes double for you Soul.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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bearbait1
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Size doesn't matter, it is quality that's important, and I'm sticking to it.
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Minnow
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Any idiot could see who you directed that at you subtle dog! This one did. It's
just fun to grind on your elitist BS once in awhile.
[Edited on 12-1-2007 by soulpatch] |
For the record, I am an anti-elitist.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
See? No worries then.
I am patently full of chit. |
You in need of a good shyster. Lots of people on this board infringing on your patent 
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