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bajaandy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
Cut and past the below into word shrink the font and print several of them to stick on your driver’s license vehicle registration etc. Make the word
SINDICATURA in red.
Estimado(a) Señor(a) (Your name here) por cualquier problema con
la Policía Municipal Estatal o Federal por favor marca al
SINDICATURA indicada abajo.
Tijuana - (664) 688-2810 - 973-7770 - 973-7759 - 683-4095
Ensenada - (646) 617-1561 - 176-2222 - 617-1561
Mexicali - (686) 558-1600 ext. 1661 |
I love it... sort of the equvilent of a "get out of jail free" card.
subvert the dominant paradigm
"If you travel with a man, you must either fall out with him or make him your good friend."
JBL Noel
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LRW
fdt: Not sure what your particular interest is in this or how you can assist, ... |
Fernando knows lots of people and is the first person we, and many others would call if we had a problem in TJ. He is very active in trying to help
stop corruption etc. He is always interested when someone has a problem in Baja----has helped out more than one nomad in the past.
If he can help, he will.
Diane
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LRW
fdt: Not sure what your particular interest is in this or how you can assist |
LRW, my interest is not particular to me it is of interest to all good people both from Tijuana and other places that drive thru Tijuana or anywere in
Baja California. We are pretty fed up with the crap that is going on and keeps happening as is your case. The reason I replied and asked particulars
from your story is that you have more information than the average complaint and that information is what is needed to get all of this to stop. Even
without a badge number or name tag, by having time of day, motorcycle number, place and description of the officer should help in pinpointing who it
was and have him repremanded in whatever way posible.
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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Lee
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Don't give in to dirty cops!
| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
| Quote: | Originally posted by LRW
fdt: Not sure what your particular interest is in this or how you can assist |
LRW, my interest is not particular to me it is of interest to all good people both from Tijuana and other places that drive thru Tijuana or anywere in
Baja California. |
To LRW: this works for me. Make a copies of your license and vehicle registration. DO NOT GIVE THE ORIGINAL TO ANY COP PULLING YOU OVER.
If they insist on originals, tell him you'll give it to his supervisor AT THE STATION. Once you've handed over originals, you have no leverage.
I have a throw-away license (expired) that I can lose, if need be. But I have copies too. If a cop is refusing to take you to the station, and
is unable to radio for backup and a supervisor, CUT TO THE CHASE AND REFUSE TO PAY ANYTHING AND TELL THE COP TO ESCORT YOU TO THE BORDER. There's
no reason you needed to give this slimeball anything -- and 50 pesos would have been generous.
Fernando -- feedback on this? The above is just what I would do -- and though I'd be professional and respectful, I'd be pi**ed at the dishonesty
of the cop AND WOULD CLEARLY COMMUNICATE THAT TO HIM!
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
Fernando -- feedback on this? The above is just what I would do -- and though I'd be professional and respectful, I'd be pi**ed at the dishonesty
of the cop AND WOULD CLEARLY COMMUNICATE THAT TO HIM! |
Good, just give them no money.
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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awfulart
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Mood: Wondering what our Nit-Wit elected officials are doing now?
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Mordida
Paying is a way of encouraging this kind of dishonesty. As long as one pays it is expected that they will continue down the bribery path. Enablers
cause more problems than disablers. At some point this must come to a halt!
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gibson
| Quote: | Originally posted by Al G
Gibson, you don't own a gun do you   |
whatoilooklike?? some idiot from Nth America who actually believes (along with the religeous poo poo) that some of the founding father's
implimentations apply to the 21st century??? puuulease!!
(sidenote: dear evolution ... please pick up the pace!!)  
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Someone tag and bag this sucker...he may be near Nebraska
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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Bajafun777
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Real easy Gibson if retired cops or off duty cops were in the Omaha Mall it would have been settled real fast with--two the body and one to head--No
more threat!!! Yea, everything gets twisted by the antics of those saying we have no rights to weapons but B.S. Our "Founding Fathers" especially
wanted our citizens to have access to weapons, as to prevent now or in the future the winos, dinos, and ding bats from getting a nut case like Hugo
Chavez in and trying to take over our country. Americans have always been fighters and can always take on the toughest situation and survive, just
the way it is!!! bajafun777
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gibson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajafun777
bajafun777 |
ever hear the term ... "drag your knuckles into the 21st century"?
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ELINVESTIG8R
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My philosophy regarding firearms is:
"If you need it and don't have it you may never need it again."
I will continue to drag my knuckles into this century.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Pompano I saw that before you deleted it...It was funny.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Pompano I love that picture and I respect your philosophy on gun control. No argument from me brother.
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castaway$
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So if you get pulled over by a dirty or fake cop how do you think they would react if you whip out your video camera and start recording. Or at
minimum start taking pics with a regular camera, we all most likley have one with us. Seems to me that would either scare them off or pee them off,
either way you would think they would get the heck of there muy pronto.
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Packoderm
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They might smash you camera, so don't use your good one. It would be better, I think, to have the camera rolling as you are driving the gauntlet, so
they have a chance to back out before they are put on the spot.
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Gadget
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| Quote: | Originally posted by castaway$
So if you get pulled over by a dirty or fake cop how do you think they would react if you whip out your video camera and start recording. Or at
minimum start taking pics with a regular camera, we all most likley have one with us. Seems to me that would either scare them off or pee them off,
either way you would think they would get the heck of there muy pronto. |
Sure, I've thought about this before. You could just set up a little video camera, I like the Sony PC120, on wide angle and just let it roll. Don't
have to make a big deal out of it or draw attention to it. It could be in a passengers lap or sitting on the center console. After you have haggled
with the nice law enforcement ??? officer and get thorough all the various mordida options, you could point out you have it all on tape. Don't know
the reaction, but it sure would be fun  dont you think?
Look, I had a run in with this little Military officer at the toll booth at Rosarito who wanted $50 for a carpet knife that I stupidly put in the
glove box instead of the tool box. He was calling it a concealed weapon, but agreed that if it was in the tool box, he would consider it a tool.
HUH???!!!! We had been blown off the coast at Alejandros after spending 2 days trying to tie everything down from blowing away. His threat was that
he was going to call the municipal police and that it would cost me $100 with them. I simply told him to go ahead and call and I would happily pay
them the $100 in front of him, but he wasn't going to get the $50. After 45 minutes of this I put up my hands, walked over to the knife sitting on
the passenger seat, walked with it and my hands still up to the back of my rig, broke the knife blade off the handle in my trailer hitch and dropped
both pieces into the trash can. I said " y ahora este es basura ". I thought the guy was going to hemmorage a vein in his neck. My son was about to load his shorts , but he let us go, no mordida. Crazy but effective.  These guys entire routine relys on being able to intimidate. Just call their bluff!!!
And if that perks up your interest in story, check out the rather less glamorous tail on a thread called Baja 500 07 trip report, and my story about
Horsepower Ranch, if you haven't already. That didn't go so well  Ya win some
and ya lose some, but heh, I've never seen the inside of a meky jail after 3+ decades of traveling in Baja. 
"Mankind will not be judged by their faults, but by the direction of their lives." Leo Giovinetti
See you in Baja
http://www.LocosMocos.com
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
| Quote: | Originally posted by LRW
fdt: Not sure what your particular interest is in this or how you can assist |
LRW, my interest is not particular to me it is of interest to all good people both from Tijuana and other places that drive thru Tijuana or anywere in
Baja California. |
To LRW: this works for me. Make a copies of your license and vehicle registration. DO NOT GIVE THE ORIGINAL TO ANY COP PULLING YOU OVER.
If they insist on originals, tell him you'll give it to his supervisor AT THE STATION. Once you've handed over originals, you have no leverage.
I have a throw-away license (expired) that I can lose, if need be. But I have copies too. If a cop is refusing to take you to the station, and
is unable to radio for backup and a supervisor, CUT TO THE CHASE AND REFUSE TO PAY ANYTHING AND TELL THE COP TO ESCORT YOU TO THE BORDER. There's
no reason you needed to give this slimeball anything -- and 50 pesos would have been generous.
Fernando -- feedback on this? The above is just what I would do -- and though I'd be professional and respectful, I'd be pi**ed at the dishonesty
of the cop AND WOULD CLEARLY COMMUNICATE THAT TO HIM! |
Why not give the cop your license? If you lose it, just go to DMV and get a new one when you get home. New license from DMV seems easier than peeing
off a cop and losing a day of vacation. Registration in my car is always a photocopy - original is at home.
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Pescador
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Copies are much better and I will never give the original. In Colorado we get to keep the old license when we get a new one, so as soon as I cross
the border, one of my old licenses gets put in the front of my billfold, while the current license gets put away with passports and my FM3. I have
copies of passport and registration and if asked I will supply copies but I do not give the originals to a policeman on the street.
I really like the camera idea and I think that could become standard procedure for any stops. Bet that time, date, and good picture could be great
information to give to FDT.
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bajaandy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
I really like the camera idea and I think that could become standard procedure for any stops. Bet that time, date, and good picture could be great
information to give to FDT. |
Better yet, let's post the pictures right here on BajaNomad... maybe we could even have a special forum just for that.
subvert the dominant paradigm
"If you travel with a man, you must either fall out with him or make him your good friend."
JBL Noel
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaandy
Better yet, let's post the pictures right here on BajaNomad... maybe we could even have a special forum just for that. |
Great idea! 
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