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Martyman
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Santiago;
I like your idea but the officer will have your drivers license and your registration so... Maybe give them copies?
I paid $36 last time I went through Tijuana.
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gnukid
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Larry
If you are insinuating something derogatory, as it appears you are for some time, its insulting as I am sure you intend. So now that you have insulted
me repeatedly. Does that make you feel good or justified in some way?
Lets hear it, Lencho?
What is your point? Lencho?
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kodiak
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I actually did have a negative experience in La Paz just a few days ago. I drove my wife to the dentist on Reforma Street. Dropped her off and went
down to the next street, turned left, and parked by the curb...just like a half dozen other vehicles. I even pulled in my driver's side mirror out of
the line of traffic since it does stick out quite a bit.
Not wanting to sit in the dentist's lounge for the next 2 hours, I decided to walk about town and check out the sights. Was gone for 45 minutes and
when I returned, I saw a police officer on a quad, removing my license plate off my truck. I had my keys on me, so I hit the door unlock/lock button
and it blips the horn. Just to let him know I was there.
He shoves a ticket in my face and proceeds to get on his quad and leave...with my plate!! I asked him what the citation was for and he stated,
"Private parking" "You no park here". I look around and asked him where is the sign stating that this was private parking?? The curb is not
painted. He told me that everyone knows this is private parking, and I will need to come to the "municipal &^%$#$%" which I did not understand
since I am no fluent in Spanish. I asked him for directions to the "municipal" place and he says he no comprendo.....Okay..how about Policia
station???? No comprendo.
He hops on his quad and takes off. Well, I am not going to let my plate out of my sight...so I jump in the truck and start following him for 5-6
blocks to the police station...He is in a large group of police and is frantically waving and pointing at me in the truck. So a guy in a white shirt
with lots of bars and stars climbs up on the side of my truck and asks what is the problemo?? "No problem", I answer, "I just was trying to find out
where to pay for this ticket, so I can get my plate back." The 'bars and stars' guy, tells me to find a place to park and come inside for directions.
This is where it gets interesting. Downtown La Paz, in the middle of the road , infront of the busiest streets in La Paz....and this guy wants me to
park a truck that is 8.5 feet tall and is as big as a Freightliner?!?!? "Just where is it would you suggest I park this thing?" I ask. "Thats your
problem", he says. Nice attitude he has....So I just pulled the emergency brake and shut the truck off. Now...I am effectively blocking the better
part of 2 lanes on a busy one way street. THAT gets their attention!
'Stars and Bars' goes over to the quad cop and tells him to escort me to the place to where I can pay my fine. He does not look too pleased about
this but motions me to follow.
We finally arrive at what must be the opposite end of La Paz, and I am instructed to wait in this line.....when I get my turn, I am informed that I
must have a copy of the ticket made. I walk 5' away to the copier, get the copy made, turn around and see the guy behind the glass I was supposed to
give the copy to, is closed. You must be kidding me?!?!?!
So...stand in another line and get the final judgement.....$13.
I pay the fine and quad cop hands me my plate and I make it back to pick up my wife at the dentist office just as she is getting out of the chair.
2 Hours of my time and $13 for parking in a supposed private area on the street. Look for me down there on the 24th...thats when her crown will be
finished and ready to put on.
But this time..I have glued my plate on with gorilla glue and 6 self tapping bolts through the steel of my flatbed.
[Edited on 1-15-2008 by kodiak]
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DENNIS
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Kodiak.....
Is that their normal demeanor? What a bunch of crap. We hear a lot about nasty cops up here but not much about them down south. It sounds pretty
bad.
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kodiak
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Just my experience in La Paz. He may have been having a bad day.
Funny thing...when I got rear-ended in Ensenada, the police and federallys were very nice and helpful. Could not have met a nicer bunch of people.
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In mexico I have several full color high res laminated copies of a drivers lic, not my real one and not my real name and it's a NY one figuring they
don't see those very often.
The plates on the car are old expired plates I never turned in. The real ones are locked in the trunk shoved down where they would be hard to find.
Whenever I can get my hands on old plates I bring them down so I have a supply.
I make my own little stickers for the plates and glue them on so it looks current.
The cabo cops and various other cities must have several of my "items" and I get a big kick out of handing it over or seeing the plate gone.
Two can play this game and it can be fun when you always win.
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
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comitan
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Well I guess its out its a terrible place here in La Paz. 
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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gnukid
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FYI When you arrive en el transito en La paz there is a window to contest the ticket and a discount for arriving soon. They will throw it out if you
ask.
Also, You can buy mini-alan head bolts to attach your plates. The cops only have standard philips and flat head screw drivers.
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longlegsinlapaz
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The cop who TORE my rear plate off for parking in a line of cars on an unpainted curb destroyed my plate holder & broke the
bolts/screws because he didn't have a screwdriver!!!!! All he had to do was reach under & unscrew the blasted wing nuts! My plate wasn't in too
good a condition when I retrieved it either! So no all La Paz cops don't carry
screwdrivers!!!!
Kodiak, I don't suppose you complained about the officer's attitude at the station? There ARE people there that speak English....you just have to
FIND them!
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BMG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
They will throw it out if you ask.
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Always?
I think the world is run by C- students.
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longlegsinlapaz
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NOPE!!!! When I was parked in front of this upholstery shop buying fabric for two ratty old chairs.........................
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BMG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
So no all La Paz cops don't carry screwdrivers!!!!
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There is a proper sized hammer and crowbar for every job.
I kinda like the Gorilla Glue idea. Wonder how long it would take them to just remove the bumper?
I think the world is run by C- students.
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Gadget
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Great info all of you.
So here is what I just did.
I printed out a copy in both languages. Pretty colors too.
Folded the pages in half, it prints out 2 booklet pages per printer sheet.
Punched some holes in em.
Bound them into booklet.
Numbered the pages, pages folded so the yellow dot is to top outside corner each page with number on dot.
Wrote a short index on inside front cover of english version of most important info for me to refer to.
Printed out a separate copy of Police and Judge locations as back ups.
If I get stopped again and don't have a gun up my shoot, the nice officer will get his copy and we can have a civil conversation on topics such as;
Sindicatura
What to do if a Police officer asks for money
Judge locations
Traffic fine amounts
What a vehicle can be impounded for
If we all had this handy, and attractive, little packet with us when stopped, along with our cameras rolling, a sugar donut balanced on our head and
the desire to find out every detail of the nice officers family life while we performed for him the latest version of River dance, well just maybe
this would all come to a rapid end    
Crazy enough??? like a fox
[Edited on 1-15-2008 by Gadget]
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Gadget is right, maybe we should send all of this to President Calderon who is trying to go about the whole thing in the wrong manner by sending in
masses of military troops when a few well armed tourists can accomplish the same thing. Why maybe we can market disposable drivers licenses, extra
plates (we can even get you a special discounted personalized plates) computer mounted cameras with live feeds to the local police department, and
special training in how to become just a little loco when when pulled over.
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kodiak
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| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
Kodiak, I don't suppose you complained about the officer's attitude at the station? There ARE people there that speak English....you just have to
FIND them! |
Nope...I just wanted to get my plate and get gone. I guess I need to work on my Spanish.....I tried to communicate with my broken Spanglish...and
that just seemed to irritate them even more.
I do have 2 drivers licenses, but the idea of extra plates is pretty good. 
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kodiak
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
Well I guess its out its a terrible place here in La Paz. |
I did not want to imply that La Paz is a terrible place Comitan.....It is not one of my favorites...too large and too much hustle and bustle for me.
Personally, I prefer smaller, quieter, areas...like Santispak But, if everyone
liked Santispak....there would be no place to park there either!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajabus
In mexico I have several full color high res laminated copies of a drivers lic, not my real one and not my real name and it's a NY one figuring they
don't see those very often.
The plates on the car are old expired plates I never turned in. The real ones are locked in the trunk shoved down where they would be hard to find.
Whenever I can get my hands on old plates I bring them down so I have a supply.
I make my own little stickers for the plates and glue them on so it looks current.
The cabo cops and various other cities must have several of my "items" and I get a big kick out of handing it over or seeing the plate gone.
Two can play this game and it can be fun when you always win. |
I've quoted the entire post because, well........I just like it.
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Osprey
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In Mexico, having in your possesion an unauthorized copy of an official document (like a driver's license) carries about the same legal penalty for
shooting 2 or more clerks/customers while robbing a bank. Cuidado!
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kodiak
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Beheading??
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Bajabus
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Osprey, warning duly noted.
However how on earth are they ever going to be able to check, I sincerely doubt any of them has ever seen a NY lic let alone the ability to call in a
check on a USA issued drivers lic. Right now at this point in time I am not too worried about it.
I am tired of their crap, especially that fat motorcyle cop that hangs out at the end of the malecone in LaPaz near the DHL office.
I refuse to play by the rules anymore. They don't and the deck is stacked.
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