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Bajamatic
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to be fair, mac's support of old software is very much the same as pc's - my old os 9 apps still work if I want them too - much the way vista can
still riun windows apps. but this is an LONG debate so make your own call here.
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fdt
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In the middle of nowere, when hot and thirsty Coke or Pepsi?
Here (México) I have Vista, both telnor and telmex offer Vista and as Roberto says it has no problems, the anticuated programs we might be using are
the ones with problems and should and will update.
Now if any of you have a better alternative for shari than what I suggested, $0.00 down and low monthly payments on your (mexican) phone bill, in
pesos, specialy for her that is running a business and uses the computer to promote her business and according to law (here in México)can be tax
deductible and that brand new computer can be paid for by just a fraction of what she charges on a nightly rental.
But I guess the choice is hers or yours if you decide to sell her one. And as for a mac, I'd love to see who is going to help her in Asuncion if she
has problems with it.
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Roberto
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Back on track
... after the hijack, but some things cannot be helped.
PC vs Mac - Macs are good machines. More expensive than PCs though, I think it would be hard to argue otherwise. Also, laptops are wonderfully
flexible and transportable, but more expensive, by and large, than desktop computers. More difficult to upgrade, as someone else said. Memory and Disk
Drives are not a problem, but graphics cards can be an issue, for example. As far as external connectivity USB/Firewire has pretty much solved the
problem.
If you are looking for maximum bang for the buck, a desktop PC will be your best bet. But, we're still talking somewhere around $500. The refurbished
option from Tiger or elsewhere sounds good, but a little less appealing in Bahia Asuncion than in the U.S. - due to service availability. The Telnor
option Fernando suggests makes a lot of sense - you can get a quality machine, and distribute the cost.
My two cents - backed up by 25 years of "Expertness" 
[Edited on 2-11-2008 by Roberto]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
13 mensualidades de $ 528
24 mensualidades de $ 299
36 mensualidades de $ 211 |
Carlos Slim won't be doing this out of the kindness of his little black heart. What does all this credit cost?
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Russ
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Shari, Hope your proud of your self! Ya got a lot all these great and wise Nomads all worked up. Some have been upgrading to new PC's ... or Macs but
haven't seen an offer of a used one to you.
I guess the old adage, "Don't pass junk on to loved ones" fits here. Good luck, Russ
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Hook
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Roberto, I forgot to mention a HUGE reason I wanted to stay with XP. So much of the software that I own for video and image editing would not work
under Vista. It would have necessitated a major expense to upgrade the versions of Adobe and Boris software that I use........when they came out.
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Barry A.
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Mr. BillM-------
My son never claimed to be an "expert", and I only represented him as a "guru", which in your mind apparently meant "expert". He is paid 6 figures
by a large corp. to advise them on computer matters, but that does not necessarily make him "an expert", I suppose. In fact I cut and pasted your
remarks in an e-mail to him and he came back saying that he 100% agreed with your comments, and he was really happy to hear that Microsoft was
extending the tech support on XP---he was not aware of this until now. He said you really knew what you were talking about, and thanks for the info.
To me it is a shame that your "hair-trigger" attack-dog responses are so caustic-------it is just not necessary to be so hostile------but thanks for
the info anyway, and my son thanks you also.
Barry A.
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Sharksbaja
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I setup a network between my laptop and PC. It is very convenient to connect via wireless connection. It took a little effort to get it up and running
but now I can upload/download back and forth. I use the laptop for GPS uploading and I can make the tracks, paths etc. at my PC workstation then
upload them to my truck GPS via laptop in the driveway. Works great. The other cool way to network is to set up a secure internet file sharing
connection between your laptop and your pc. I think I heard Vista has that kind of program. Any you Gurus experts know?
Anyhoo, I agree about the need to own both. Laptops on trips are great. Prices are low for PCs. Occasional probs with both.
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by morgaine7
Here's a link to the Telmex deals, which seem pretty decent to me.
Kate
[Edited on 2-12-2008 by morgaine7] |
Interesting to see how all the ones offered on the telmex link come with some sort of Vista; Pro, Home Basic or Starter. If mexicans would only wise
up and read All My Children Bajanomad the telmex or telnor tiendas would have to close theire doors.
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Russ
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| Quote: | So, where's your offer, Russ? I mean, I would imagine someone who can afford a house at Punta Chivato, should be able to find a used computer - or am
I wrong?
[Edited on 2-11-2008 by Roberto] |
I'm looking. Not everyone here can afford a house. I've been here 17 years and things have changed some. Since you asked.
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jorgie
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the telmex deals sound the best for the application
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comitan
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It was my experience of buying a computer in Mexico you get XP-Vista in Spanish and you have to know someone to get them in English. (Pirated) I know
some of you will question this, but the Computer was Bought at Microsystems here in La Paz a large reputable dealer they could do nothing.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Iflyfish
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Mrsfish just got the new mega screen Mac with computer built in, arrived the other day. Came with Spanish instruction book and Spanish Key
Board......go figure....they are however very responsive to the problem....have to give them that, and the graphics, amazing.
I'm sure your Spanish is sufficient to use a Spanish computer and those deals look very appealing.
Iflyfish
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bajadogs
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I'm a Mac guy,
No problems, viruses, trojan horse problems etc. Out of the box it does so much and system upgrades are painless compared to Windows. I understand the
lack of Mac support in Baja deters Nomads from the big switch. The problem may be that Macs don't require the support. Windows help is everywhere,
because it's needed everywhere.
I'll tell you what Shari, if a little plot of land can be set aside at a reasonable sacrifice, I'd be more than happy to become the Baja Apple tech
guy. Apple Store, Asuncion, BC.
Oh, and if you MUST run windows, all current Macs can run any version of Windows ever bit as good as any PC - not a selling point for me.
I'm just defending Mac. You can get by for a lot less $$$ as long as you have the support nearby.
Peace and Good Luck!
Dogs
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jorgie
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fdt has it right.....telmex. it doesn't matter to Shari , english or spanish will work and the cost/payment structure is right for Shari and Juan.
Lets not forget that Juan is also a techi and knows the experts etc.
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shari
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ooohhhh, this IS good!!! I learned tons in this thread...I'm tempted to try Mac as many of my guru/experts have recommended it to me...now...Bajadogs,
I will rise to your challenge...we have a few little chunks of sand where you can squat...IF..you bring me down a desktop or whatever you can find
that will get me out the PC intensive care ward. It doesn't sound like you'd have alot of work though!! I shy away from the Telmex deal as you don't
own the equipment and what if something happens to it? It's also expensive in the long run and sounds like I don't want Vista, whatever the heck that
is. Iflyfish is right about our salty, dusty environment and perhaps a desktop would be better, but I sure wouldn't kick a laptop out of bed!!!!So
ummm, seems like lots of people have upgraded...anyone want to sell me their old but decent PC? Trade...barter????
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
I shy away from the Telmex deal as you don't own the equipment and what if something happens to it? |
Were did you get this info? Not from Telmex, when you buy from them, you own the equipment, of course if you don't make payments to your phone bill
you will also get disconnected or anything we don't make payments on. Oh well.
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shari
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wow, thanks for that
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