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gibson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
People won't come down here 'cause it's turned into a snake pit. It isn't so much the border wait as much as it's the anti-Americanism. The over-all
friendliness toward Americans has changed and the government has fostered a belief that we are the enemy. They need that excuse in order to scapegoat
all of the crap that they have brought upon themselves with their thieving past governments.
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definitely sounds like it's time foryou to 'look inside'!!
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajamatic
Wow. This went sour fast.
(IMHO) The reason for the 90% drop is the press, and nothing else. most of the people who go to tJ for the day have no idea about the politics or
general temperature in regards to Americans as tourists - they only know they can be twirled on the shoulders of a 12-shot glass-slinging bartender,
and maybe get some "sucky sucky." And since this article appears on the front page of the LA times, you can rest assured that the numbers will return
(to some degree) to see the new, safer, more beautiful TJ. We'll see if the rep can hold up to its promises. |
Bajamatic
Aren't you begging the question a bit, that foreign travelers are responding to media, as opposed to the factual content of the media-specifically
crime, that is, there has been some bad stuff going which is decidedly targeted at travelers, expats, tourists who pass through the TJ - Ensenada
region. And the primary issue is that the scoundrels often are law enforcement, while there is little authority to support a citizen of USA in matter
of criminal behavior??
(please don't begin a non-sequitor argument comparing USA to Mexico, either)
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
It does appear that many of the Visitors to Mexico expect that the Govt. will take care and Protect them as they expect in the States. That is just
not the Way things are done in Baja.
We as citizens of the United States cannot demand that the Mexican Govt. change their ways to fit our Needs. It will not happen!!
It will take many years of Strife before each of our Cultures are able learn to let each Country Live out its Destiny. |
Your views bear reflection and repetition on this board.
Too many exports from the USA are US citizens who cannot make it financially in the US. When they relocate to a place like Baja, while they don't
have the means, they got the mouth.
'nuff said regarding the ugly exports.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Skeet/Loreto
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The boycott of the TJ Area will help in the Short-Run, just as the Debackle over Natalie Haloway created an 18% Drop in Tourism in Aruba.
The TJ Mexican Business Owners just do not have the Power over the Corruption.
Law-Enforcement in Baja and many Parts of the Country has no bearing on "What we, as Americans generally think about Law-Enforcement.
Low-Pay leads to Corruption, which has been the Norm for many years.
Until such time that "Mordida" is Changed, there will be no Change in Law Enforcement as it is in the States with Drugs. Until the People decide to
"Change Their Way of Life".
It Just seems to me that the Divided Culture in the States has lead some of the Mexicans to Think that we Display "Weakness", therefore some will Prey
on the Weak.
I forsee in the Future a Time of Turmoil especially when the Fence is finished, many of the Illegal Criminals " are returned to Mexico, they
themselves will Fall on the Drug Cartels for Survival. Hope So.
Time Will Tell
Skeet/Loreto
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MrBillM
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The Marketplace at Work
Reading the article today at breakfast, there is no question that the dominant force at work is the "Fear Factor". Their "9/11" of "1/31" was simply
another nail in the coffin, scraping away some of the daytrippers.
Once again, the market is performing as it should.
For myriad reasons, including corruption, the authorities were never going to adequately address the problem until it became a significant economic
problem for the business community and the general populace.
IF their reforms are maintained and improved, EVENTUALLY, the tourism will return to a more positive level. This one of the basic lessons of the
free-market. Consumer dissatisfaction with a product is overcome slowly once the negatives are addressed and that product is improved, especially if
that consumer discontent revolves around the question of personal well-being.
Unfortunately, I have witnessed many occasions over the years where genuine attempts at overcoming negative feelings have been shortlived because the
effort was not rewarded quickly enough.
Time will tell.
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rdrrm8e
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Genuine CUBAN cigars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Many stores showcase high-quality products: silver from Taxco, Talavera pottery from Michoacan, handcrafted stained-glass and leather products.
The Cuban cigars at the business association-approved stores are authentic , and tourists can get custom-made furniture and pinatas at the
historic arts and crafts market.
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