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[*] posted on 4-5-2008 at 03:06 PM


HOW MUCH PER KILO? comm'l or retail?
just curious. i don't see it on the shelves here.




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[*] posted on 4-5-2008 at 03:08 PM


God Shari, I love our town more and more everyday!!!



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[*] posted on 4-5-2008 at 03:21 PM


I have never eaten Ablalone. I don't see it on menues here, though I just might not go to the right places. I believe I have seen it in Asian markets here canned. Is canned Abalone any good? How does one cook it? Your abalone looks wonderful Shari and know you are a wonderful cook.

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[*] posted on 4-5-2008 at 03:50 PM


Iflyfish - abalone is, IMHO, the best of all seafoods. You rarely see it in the US anymore because there are very few left in US waters. The meat is the foot of the snail, you remove it, pound it until it is thin, bread it, and then fry it very briefly on each side. I'm sure shari can give you a more detailed spec. The problem is finding them.
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[*] posted on 4-5-2008 at 04:03 PM
Amen, Ken Bondy


I used to spend my childhood summers on Catalina Island while you could still harvest abalone wearing only a snorkel and fins (and, obvs, carrying a diving knife).

I have very vivid memories of pounding out the steaks (while trying to avoid pounding any of the hovering wasps into the meat).

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[*] posted on 4-5-2008 at 04:15 PM


They steam and can the abalone here at the plant and canned or jarred abalone is very delicious...nice and tender and can be eaten as it, or made into a c-cktail or sliced and fried in butter and garlic or breaded...It's also fantastc as ceviche too. We are blessed to still be able to eat it here.



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[*] posted on 4-5-2008 at 05:14 PM


Abalone from Bahia Asuncion marketed by Ocean Garden Products.



As we learned from Shari and Juan, the fishermen in both coops can participate in lobster OR abalone season, not both as they are the most profitable products.

In conversation with a fisherman we met at the local llantara, he told us that at the coop in Tortugas and further north, the fishermen could fish for lobster AND abalone. I keep wanting to ask Juan about this, but keep forgeting---just curious----so I will ask right now????




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[*] posted on 4-5-2008 at 05:20 PM


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I commend your community Shari. These are good stewards, they protect and manage their livelyhood. Kudos!

It is so sad that the ideals and mindset vary in importance so widely. It is so out of kilter imo. On one side of Baja you have a concerted effort by Mexican locals maintaining a viable fishery.
On the other side(literally) you have a bunch of independants or loosely organised fishermen who cannot or will not or do not practice the law of protecting their interests.


Sharks, you are sure right on there.

While down to BoLA over last November I would swim each morning.

I encountered 2 snorkelers one morning with small diameter rods, a squirt bottle and a mesh bag. They work along in 6 to 10 feet of water, squirting BLEACH into the rocks and crevices, pock around with the rods and collect the tiny Octopus that get stunned by the bleach. The bags had 2 to 3 inch diameter catch in them at the biggest.

I tried to get the one guys attention but he would keep his distance and always turn away from me. It was so upsetting, but I am just a gringo, what can I do?

Abram says that of late sales of gallons of bleach in town have gone up 10 - 20 times. He believes the added pollution is killing of plankton and as a result the Whale Sharks are not coming into the inner bay.

This is just such a harmful practice, but I guess you have to think about how desperate you may get when hungry.

Sorry, poorly worded rant, had to clean it up a little. G



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[*] posted on 4-5-2008 at 05:34 PM


Juan says that in Tortugas the fishermen CAN work at both lobster and abalone....lucky guys! Now I know why they have all those nice pick ups..A can of that abalone goes for about $35 and depending on size can have 1-3 abalone in it. I've seen them in the stores in Vizcaino and the fish market here has them I think. Juan says that black market abs go for about a hundred bucks a kilo. Here the coops only sell the seconds...the lips or edges they cut off...and we grind it up and make delicious sausage or burgers out of it. During the season you can find abalone tamales and empanadas here sometimes or order them. Juan's sister makes great stuff if anybody wants to order some!



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[*] posted on 4-5-2008 at 05:43 PM


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Juan's sister makes great stuff if anybody wants to order some!


I assume you are talking about Lupita. Lupita needs a flyer---menu with prices (tips extra, of course) and as more and more people buy property, she will need a flyer for her property care services---and all the other things she does. :yes::yes:

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and we grind it up and make delicious sausage or burgers out of it. During the season you can find abalone tamales and empanadas here sometimes or order them. Juan's sister makes great stuff if anybody wants to order some!


You are killing me Shari.

The last time I saw abalone on a menu was about 15 years ago on the pier at Monterrey (Ca) fisherman's wharf. It was New Years Eve and priced at $50.00 for a piece about 1/8" thick and about 3" diameter. I ordered it since I had never seen abalone on a menu before. When it arrived at the table I had to laugh but once I started eating I could not believe how delicious it was.


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[*] posted on 4-5-2008 at 06:19 PM


John grew up in the 50s eating lots of abalone---parents got it free from a good friend who was the Park Ranger at Leo Carillo State Beach---the abalone confiscated from the poachers. :lol:

So the idea of $35.00 a can just makes him shake his head.

Wonder what the vigilencia do with confiscated abalone? Sure can't imagine it would be wasted.




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[*] posted on 4-5-2008 at 06:21 PM


geez..you were right about that huge plate we ate last night, I figure there were about 30 of those pieces on it...no wonder I feel so stuffed and satisfied! Actually Juan's other sister...he has a bunch of em...Blanca makes fabulous abalone tamales, empanadas and chorizo. It's a family act here for sure...even Juan's brother's dog Tuto lends himself to renters!



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geez..you were right about that huge plate we ate last night, I figure there were about 30 of those pieces on it...no wonder I feel so stuffed and satisfied! Actually Juan's other sister...he has a bunch of em...Blanca makes fabulous abalone tamales, empanadas and chorizo. It's a family act here for sure...even Juan's brother's dog Tuto lends himself to renters!


OK, they need to start the family food service business---delivered with a smile. Could be the first food delivery business in Bahia Asuncion. :yes::yes:

Tuto? Yes he comes to visit often and even crabby little Maggie has made friends with him and she does not like many dogs.




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[*] posted on 4-5-2008 at 06:40 PM


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This is just such a stupid practice, but I guess you have to think about how desperate you may get when hungry.


That's true. However, I think we would both be surprised to find out how much of the money made that way does NOT go for food.

That town, as much as I love it, is going to destroy every living thing in that bay unless something changes.

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[*] posted on 4-5-2008 at 08:36 PM


Thanks Shari,

The yellows are pinks, and the blues must be greens. Glad we straightened that out.:biggrin::biggrin:

In 1987 husked and trimmed abalone sold for $50.00/lb at San Pedro Fish Market. And they had no problem selling every scrap.
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[*] posted on 4-6-2008 at 07:23 AM


Does anyone know the price of a can of Abalone? How about the availability? Does it come to the U.S. for sale? Asian markets, Mexican markets?

I want some!!




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[*] posted on 4-6-2008 at 08:24 AM


I can pick you up some here...around $35 a can...good excuse to come for another visit!



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[*] posted on 4-6-2008 at 09:05 AM


We just went over the calender for the summer and it looks like we'll be doing a driving trip to Monterray/Napa June/July and then flying to Oahu in August.

Bahia Asuncion is a little out of our reach this summer since we'll be also sneaking some Pacific side San Quintin and Erindira trips in. Future trips back to Bahia will be scheduled however. Maybe a Nomad run, invade your town. Perhaps even a land race from the border, winner gets a can of Abalone!

I've seen that canned brand CALMEX somewhere up here, I'll have to check the markets. If anyone is heading to Bahia Asuncion we'd love a few cans to be brought back up to San Diego or vininity?!




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[*] posted on 4-6-2008 at 09:41 AM


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geez..you were right about that huge plate we ate last night, I figure there were about 30 of those pieces on it...no wonder I feel so stuffed and satisfied! Actually Juan's other sister...he has a bunch of em...Blanca makes fabulous abalone tamales, empanadas and chorizo. It's a family act here for sure...even Juan's brother's dog Tuto lends himself to renters!


I love Tuto, he is the best dog, he adopted us when we were down in December, I don't think it had anything to do with the fact that Mr. Gypsy was feeding him.....;D




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