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Gadget
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| Quote: | Originally posted by aha baja
i know this sound simplistic if not down right cruel yet as previously posted we all have choises yet few think of the cosequences.... we all can
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Ummm, like the ones Leti and I discussed:
roll from under vehicle when feet approach
roll from under vehicle when door opened
roll from under vehicle when door closed
roll from under vehicle when engine starts
roll from under vehicle as it starts to move
lay flat
don't hang on
YELL OUT
let go after a few feet
My Pa-in-law would say this guy passed his stupid test.
"Mankind will not be judged by their faults, but by the direction of their lives." Leo Giovinetti
See you in Baja
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Gypsy Jan
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aha baja
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guess his karma ran over his dogma |
Very funny.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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fulano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Oso
If this happened in the States, the guy would hire Geragos to get a huge settlement for him due to her obvious gross negligence in not checking under
her car for thieves before driving off. |
Geragos is way too busy to take on that case. He's still driving around Canada trying to serve me with winthy's defamation lawsuit.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fulano
| Quote: | Originally posted by Oso
If this happened in the States, the guy would hire Geragos to get a huge settlement for him due to her obvious gross negligence in not checking under
her car for thieves before driving off. |
Geragos is way too busy to take on that case. He's still driving around Canada trying to serve me with winthy's defamation lawsuit.
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Oh, Yea, Winthy .... Man of many threats .... they come
and they go don't they .......
CaboRon
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DENNIS
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I hope he dies in the hospital dumpster after they find out he's allergic to morphine and can't give it to him for fear of a lawsuit.
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Iflyfish
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One down........
I am surprised she wasn't arrested.......odd.
Iflyfish
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teadust
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
When we talked to locals about the theft, they shrugged and said that this thievery is rampant on both sides of the border - that the chemicals in
the converter are used to produce meth? |
used to BUY meth, perhaps, or at least get some ready cash. This has been going on a while but has really increased the last couple years.
They're valuable because "...catalytic converters contain expensive precious metals like platinum - which is worth up to $1,200 an ounce; palladium,
which can fetch $320 an ounce and rhodium, the biggest prize of all. It goes for up to $6,000 an ounce on the market."
"...Selling stolen converters to scrap yards or recyclers, a thief can net a couple of hundred dollars apiece.
Exactly how much depends on the size of the car and its converter. But even a little bit is worth a lot. Converter thefts are the quickie crime du
jour, not only in Chicago, where workers in auto body shops and other experts say it is increasingly a nuisance, but anywhere cars are, which is to
say basically everywhere.
“These are definitely occurring more than they have in recent memory, and why that is is definitely tied to the price of precious metals within
converters,” said Frank Scafidi, spokesman for the National Insurance Crime Bureau."
"...Thefts of catalytic converters have been logged in the last month in Los Angeles, Pasadena, the Bay Area and Sacramento. Arrests have been
reported from Seattle to Virginia, near Pittsburgh, in the Maryland suburbs of Washington, D.C., and in Tennessee, where the Highway Patrol busted a
thief cutting converters from cars impounded in one of its own lots."
Catalytic Converters Become Hot Part for Thieves (Tribune-Review)
Catalytic Converter Theft Warning for Cars (citynews.ca)
Thieves Leave Cars, but Take Catalytic Converters (NY Times)
The story of this dragging incident really creeps me out. The man certainly seems to have passed "the stupid test" but he hadn't harmed her or her
loved ones, or even threatened her. What a horrible thing for a person to go through - if he even makes it.
And I wonder how the driver feels now. I know I'd be having nightmares.
In cases of non-violent crimes like this I always wish the perp just got his hands superglued togther, with "Poor Impulse Control" tattooed to his
forehead, then dumped in a public plaza til the cops collect him.
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beachbum1A
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I hope he's the guy that got mine. Sweet justice. |
I hope he's the one who ripped of mine too Dennis! Toyota wanted $550. for a replacement and an after market was ONLY $350.! Wonder what the theives
get for one?
Just do it!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by beachbum1A
I hope he's the guy that got mine. Sweet justice. |
I hope he's the one who ripped of mine too Dennis! Toyota wanted $550. for a replacement and an after market was ONLY $350.! Wonder what the theives
get for one? |
Don't have any idea, Bruce. I went online and got a new one for $120 and since it was a bolt-on, it went on quickly. The problem now is that they
also got two oxygen sensors that were attached to the convertor so I'll have to deal with that before it will pass smog again.
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bacquito
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I did not realize that the converters were of interest! kinda unnerve ving
bacquito
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oladulce
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pardon the detour but -
Teadust:
Your nomad identity/location - "the ether" ??
And your thoughts seemed so clear...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by grover
I guess the lesson is leave your bolt-on in the garage until it's time for smog. |
I would but, it's really noisy.
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | | Toyota wanted $550. for a replacement and an after market was ONLY $350.! Wonder what the theives get for one? |
Mine were not stolen but had to replace them to pass smog. The GMC dealer wanted $850 for the pair so I bought 2 after market ones at Pep Boys for $70
each and the mofle shop in Maneadaro only charged me $25 to install them. Of course they also sold the scrap precious metals for mas dinero.
Bob Durrell
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gadget
I am saddened to hear this guy may not survive.
He may pay the ultimate price for his life of crime, but we all have free will to choose our path.
I find no pleasure in knowing the furthur details of this story 
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What the guy did was wrong and he should pay a price for his crime. The price should be in line with the crime. I take no pleasure in knowing that he
pay with his life for removing something to generate a few dollars. He might have been a junkie looking for his next fix, an alcoholic needing a drink
or simply someone who hadn't eaten in a day. I don't know and don't find it relevant.
I am sure that the majority of you here are all law abiding citizens who have never served time, never been arrested, never committed a crime, always
paid every single penny of taxes that were due, including if you are living in Baja you are reporting every cent of your Mexican income as required by
IRS guidelines.
And I know that you all have paid every cent of duty owed at the border when crossing for that which you carried, both entering and leaving Mexico. No
Baja Nomad would dare violate that sacred law.
I respect you for that. In fact I stand up and applaud you for that. I wish I could join you up on that stage but if I take an honest look at my life
I am afraid that I have to admit that I have not been quite so perfect in my life conduct.
In paying for where I have erred I can only hope that I do not have to pay such a high price for what I did nor become the joke of an online forum. It
is what it is. He did something wrong and paid a very high price. It is tragic in many ways from my perspective...
[Edited on 6-15-2008 by BajaGringo]
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bancoduo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
I am sure that the majority of you here are all law abiding citizens who have never served time, never been arrested, never committed a crime, always
paid every single penny of taxes that were due, including if you are living in Baja you are reporting every cent of your Mexican income as required by
IRS guidelines.
And I know that you all have paid every cent of duty owned at the border when crossing for that which you carried, both entering and leaving Mexico.
No Baja Nomad would dare violate that sacred law.
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Jeez, I flunked every part of that test.
[Edited on 6-15-2008 by bancoduo]
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bancoduo
Jeez, I flunked every part of that test. |
Glad to know that I am not alone...
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Woooosh
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I agree that the injuries sustained were worse than the crime- but have to "second" the notion that the guy passed the "stuck on stupid" test. It was
time for him to get out from underneath when he knew the owners had returned, entered or at last chance started the vehicle. At least he's out of the
gene pool.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I agree that the injuries sustained were worse than the crime- but have to "second" the notion that the guy passed the "stuck on stupid" test. It was
time for him to get out from underneath when he knew the owners had returned, entered or at last chance started the vehicle. At least he's out of the
gene pool. |
No question about that. Unfortunately many who struggle with addictions are not acting in their "right minds". Glad to know that you have never been
guilty of doing anything dumb when extremely drunk or under the effects of some other mind altering chemical. I would wager that there might be one or
two here that might admit to some extremely stupid behavior under the effects of some mind altering chemical - alcohol or other.
I will be the first...
[Edited on 6-15-2008 by BajaGringo]
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JaraHurd
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I generally agree with you Baja G...but..I am fed up with giving ANY sympathy to people who "struggle with their addictions." The recidivism rate of,
for example, narcotics offenders, is off the charts. A law abiding, tax-paying person where I work was stabbed several times (many to say the least) a
few months ago by a "non-violent" drug offender. Substance abusers put themselves (and OTHERS) in high-risk situations. He screwed up and paid dearly.
It brings me no joy...but I will shed no tears for him either. By the way, my father is a recovering alcoholic....I hold him to the same standard.
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JaraHurd
I generally agree with you Baja G...but..I am fed up with giving ANY sympathy to people who "struggle with their addictions." |
I hear what you are saying and I hope that in no way I gave the impression that we should just look the other way. In fact I am a big proponent of
longer/life jail sentences for perps who prove that they cannot be reformed and are solely committed to an ongoing life of crime. It just needs to be
proportional if we are going to ever really become a truly just and fair society.
I am sorry about your father and I do understand of what you speak. It is a sad reality of life and I just recently wrote a related story...
Baja Healing
Maybe there is something there that you can grab onto in some way.
Good luck to you...
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