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Skeet/Loreto
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Capt. Mike! If I may be so brave as to disagree with with you concerning the Dusky. By the way I have fished out of that very Boat at Key West with
Capt. George at the Controls.!!
It is an excellent Boat for the Keys or any other Water other than the Sea of cortez which takes a 22 Ft. Panga to handle the heavy Seas that you may
encounter out 35 Miles during a sudden "Whip Storm"".
I am headed to Tashis_West Coast Vancouver Island in August 18th for a Try at some King Salmon in a Arima Legend.Hope to be back in Mulege shortly to
catch a Dorado or two out of that "Ruined Sea of cortez".
Doctors tell me I cannot lift over 15 Lbs for at least 6 months, but I can still Hookem and Hand off and Eatem!!
Glad to hear George finally sold his Dusky.
Are you still going to Mulege?
Skeet/Loreto
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capt. mike
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hola Skeet - not much today - these days that is, sold my place.
avgas too high now for weekend jaunts - double what it cost just 2 years ago.
i'll make some trips this fall. but am going to San Quintin area in a few short weeks if not sooner, El Socorrito with friends.
the pacific is nice about now.
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Bob and Susan
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let's see...
22 ft panga....
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Bob and Susan
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or....
dusky....
i think dusky WINS !!!
i want a lighter boat that i can launch alone...
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wsdunc
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Everything everyone said about 22-23 ft boats in the Sea of Cortez is right. This being said I have fished the Sea of Cortez for years with a 15 ft
aluminum boat. I have caught tuna, dorado, sailfish, marlin, roosterfish etc. You just need to be aware of your limitations. You only fish when the
conditions are good. As soon as the wind starts to come up you head for the beach. As soon as you see what seems like weather in the distance you
head for the beach. As soon as anything feels at all spooky, you head for the beach.
Here are some of the good things about the small boat: I can troll all day on 6 gallons of gas. If the motor breaks I can row the boat, try that
with a 23 footer! I can launch across the beach most anywhere. Remember that one of the magic things about the Sea of Cortz is that when things are
right there is good fishing quite close to shore. Say the wind starts to pick up, and you run for the beach. Nothing says your day is over then. As
soon as you are sure you are safe (a couple hundred yards from shore?) you can continue prospecting for roosters, jacks or the lost dorado.
So the small boat does have its place in Baja. There is no question you will not be running outside with the big boys, and they will certainly fish
days when you can't. But catching a giant fish from a small boat involves a lot more adrenaline than on the bigger boat. And be glad you don't have
to fill the gas tanks on the bigger boats!
One last comment, someone else mentioned and I agree that that boat looks overpowered, I have run a 15 hp motor, and will probably upgrade to a 20hp
four stroke, but it would seem that 25 hp would be about the max recomended for that boat.
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Bob and Susan
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yea...$$$$ GAS
my 23 foot wellcraft took $75usa in gas for JUST a couple hours of skiing
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Skeet/Loreto
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Wsdunc: Well Said:
The small metal boats are great close inshore. Some people even use them on the Columbia River!
The Panga is built for All types of Water with a Load.
During the Years I fished out of Loreto I spent many days out 35 Miles to Mercnieros Reef. On one Occasion I kept Fishing when I heard Thunder but saw
no Clouds. Coronado Island disappered and the Whip Storm hit us with 11 Ft Waves in a few short seconds. Went 90 Degrees toward Land. Tough and Wet
Ride put the Panga was Safe.
my Opinion only but for me a 19 Ft. boat is just not Long enough.
My 22 Ft. Wellcraft Diesel was good for getting out to the reefs down to Catalina and San Jose and getting back safely.
Skeet/Loret
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Vince
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Bob and Susan- I will throw in my experience with a small boat in your area. I have had a 17 foot Boston Whaler Montauk at my place on Coyote Bay now
for the past 35 years. I have used that boat about 3-5 times a year mostly for fishing, but also water skiing, exploring and diving. It has been
very reliable and I always felt safe in it. We go no further than about 10 miles out to sea from Pt.Conception, but have caught many fish, even
sailfish at that radius. It has been great for diving, especially when climbing back in the boat on a ladder it is very stable and tips very little.
Easy to launch/retrieve solo. However, when it is rough you really have to slow down because of the cathedral hull and it being an older model ('65),
it slams hard and uncomfortable in the chop. If the wind starts coming up, we beat it for home. There is no all around boat, but this one has been
good for us. I have a 70 Johnson, '85. We have been by your place many times, will stop next time to see it.
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rob
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KLAMATH 15
I have a Klamath 15 with a 40HP Yamaha and a Suzuki kicker - it works beautifully on the Cortez, and here on the Pacific we run it out to the
Lusitania Banks (40 miles out) with no problems.
BUT
It has a hydraulic tilt - and that means the shaft is locked at whatever angle you set it at. This is not good when launching in heavy surf because
there is no "give" on the prop shaft when hitting the bottom.
I would like to buy a standard 22ft panaga with a 75 Yamaha and a kicker, so if you're interested . .. come take a look one of these sweltering
summer days - you'll love it out here!
rob
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vacaenbaja
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If I recall correctly boats 19ft and smaller must by law be built to float if swamped. So a larger boat may allow you to
get out and stay out in rougher water, but may not be any
"safer" if swamped. In a region where there is no coast guard etc to help it is always good to have buddy boats and give someone your floatplan just
in case things go bad.This will give searchers an idea where/ if to look. Smaller boats get the job done in the near by reefs in the Cortez. You just
have to have an eye to the wind and sea conditions and do not for any reason hesitate to head in at the first sign of white caps in the distance. That
means bad stuff is already brewing and WILL be your way in a matter of minutes. Also always wear your life jacket when under way. You may not reach it
or be able to if things go bad quickly. If you feel that they are too cumbersome buy one of those inflatable PFD that are worn around the waist. If
you are a poor swimmer this is a must.
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capn.sharky
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I don't care for aluminum boats in salt water. If you don't wash them well enough, you get a build up of white crap in them. Want to go less that 20
feet, buy a Boston Whaler---you will probably get back okay in one of them.
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