| Pages:
1
2
3 |
CaboRon
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3401
Registered: 3-24-2007
Location: The Valley of the Moon
Member Is Offline
Mood: Peacefull
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by danamite
AND it's mid OCTOBER 2008 & still no word on the official site. We are all still awaiting... and hoping.
>> "His hopes are to have the the new publication produced and out by late September or October."
So sad.
Someone should buy the copyright to this Baja map book & get it in the hand of a real publisher.
DanaMite
Total Escape - California, Off the Beaten Path
http://www.totalescape.com
Where I've been
http://www.flickr.com/photos/danamite/sets/ |
Been hearing about this for over a year ....
No longer believe it will happen 
|
|
|
burnrope
Nomad
Posts: 214
Registered: 10-24-2006
Member Is Offline
|
|
I would routinely see used Baja Almancs for around $500.00 on E-Bay. All of these rumors have driven the price down to around $20.00.
|
|
|
Hook
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9010
Registered: 3-13-2004
Location: Sonora
Member Is Offline
Mood: Inquisitive
|
|
Probably not enough advance "deposits" yet, if this follows the usual course.
Time to beat the bushes harder, David.
|
|
|
David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64857
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
|
|
Today's email...
With all this time, it should be a great edition! Nobody is taking advance deposits for it Hook, as far as I have heard...
I am trying to reach Landon directly so I can report back to you all, first hand. Until I do, please welcome any info. I can get that I believe to be
valid...
Anyway, I received this today from a person I contacted who knows Landon (Baja Almanac publisher):
"I saw Landon 1 month - he said before Xmas, but who knows-still doing computer work on it."
|
|
|
chino
Nomad
Posts: 182
Registered: 11-27-2005
Location: Nor Cal
Member Is Offline
|
|
I have felt stingy in the past not loaning "my" almanac to a good friend, now with hind sight I feel wise for not loaning it, it also has made a great
journal over the years and some of the writings are not for anyone else.
I will probably get two when they do resurface.
|
|
|
Ken Cooke
Elite Nomad
Posts: 8947
Registered: 2-9-2004
Location: Riverside, CA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Pole Line Road postponed due to injury
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by chino
I have felt stingy in the past not loaning "my" almanac to a good friend, now with hind sight I feel wise for not loaning it. |
If I loan something out, I expect it will be damaged, but returned - at best. Lost, or the 'friend' disappears off the face of the earth w/my Almanac
at worst.
|
|
|
burnrope
Nomad
Posts: 214
Registered: 10-24-2006
Member Is Offline
|
|
Isn't bumping great?
|
|
|
rockman
Junior Nomad
Posts: 97
Registered: 11-30-2003
Location: Port Hadlock, WA & Loreto BCS
Member Is Offline
|
|
Will the new edition improve the accuracy of the Latitude/longitude tics ?
In previous editions, some page's tics were off by up to 0.6 km.
This is more obvious if one tries to splice some adjacent map pages - either the trails or the tics may not line up.
Also, it would be helpful if the Almanacs had a publication date, or, better yet, a revision date on each map sheet.
|
|
|
David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64857
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by rockman
Will the new edition improve the accuracy of the Latitude/longitude tics ?
In previous editions, some page's tics were off by up to 0.6 km.
This is more obvious if one tries to splice some adjacent map pages - either the trails or the tics may not line up.
Also, it would be helpful if the Almanacs had a publication date, or, better yet, a revision date on each map sheet. |
Hi Norm... who knows for sure?
Are you changing your GPS map datum to NAD27 Mexico when using the Almanac
Or is the off scale just when you are piecing together pages?
I did a lot of that when working on the recent El Camino Real posts here on Nomad (did you see them?)... Some of the non matching of ticks and roads/
arroyos could have to do with the fact that the world is round and maps are flat...
The better thread on the Almanac is here: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=36515
|
|
|
rockman
Junior Nomad
Posts: 97
Registered: 11-30-2003
Location: Port Hadlock, WA & Loreto BCS
Member Is Offline
|
|
Hi DK;
These problems are not related to datum or projection.
Take a pair of fine dividers and compare the distance between latitude tics. They should be identical, but in many cases, they are not. For
example, on maps 13, 18 and some others, compare the distance between the bottom 2 tics and the top 2 tics; they are different by over 2mm, which is
half a km at that scale.
Look at the left (west) edge of map 25, and note that the state boundary (28*N) is nearly 4mm (0.9 km) north of the 28*N tic mark.
Also, you can compare the INEGI maps and find location differences.
These errors were not a problem until the common use of GPS, but now in some areas, the difference can put you on the wrong side of a hill.
You probably have noted that the Almanac maps, although close, are not exactly 1:250,000. You'll see this if you try to overlay an INEGI geologic map
over an Almanac map. The Almanacs (and their info source) are undated, and the exact scale of the maps is not stated.
The recent National Geographic maps of Baja have a lot of detail, and more updated roads and trails. Like the Almanac, it is a good planning tool,
but since each state is on one piece of paper, one does not have to go from page to page. I find the NG maps to be better than the AAA/ACSC Baja
maps. Some of us have tried to inform AAA of the many errors on their maps, but the AAA offices are unable to tell us who to contact, and lack the
interest to pursue it.
A few years ago, I wrote a letter to the publisher detailing some of the problems, but I never got a reply.
[Edited on 3-7-2009 by rockman]
|
|
|
David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64857
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
|
|
The new Nat'l Geo maps are beautiful..but many serious errors as well... the same found on the Almanac which tells me they both originated with
Mexican topos...
On the Nat'l. Geo maps: Mision San Pedro Martir is shown by San Telmo, a auto road is using 'your' hiking trail to Santa Maria mission... an auto road
shown between San Francisco de la Sierra and Santa Marta... etc.
The AAA maps got much better the last couple of editions when they began using GPS technology in locating the roads correctly.
At least the Almanac is checked and revised by Landon... and he has really been working on field research for this new edition... if it ever gets
published!
The previous edition was printed in 2003... the ones (Norte and Sur) before 1998 or '99 (I think). I would love to see the BIG Baja Atlas redone, that
was Landon's first map book... from '86 and '91, I think.
[Edited on 3-7-2009 by David K]
|
|
|
TMW
Select Nomad
Posts: 10659
Registered: 9-1-2003
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Member Is Offline
|
|
If accuracy is what you want put Google Earth on a laptop and take it with you.
|
|
|
burnrope
Nomad
Posts: 214
Registered: 10-24-2006
Member Is Offline
|
|
I've got that bumping feeling again.
|
|
|
Baja Bucko
Nomad
Posts: 288
Registered: 9-23-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
I agree with Davo here...I recently took a look at the Nat Geo maps and just in one gander saw a road going to a place that in real life...has no
road to it cuz I was just there on a mule. So I said to myself-if the only thing I look at is wrong what other things are in error?????? Nope,
didn't buy it.
My other 4WD is a Baja Mule!
La Mula Mil Survivor 2013-2014!
1000 miles by mule from the tip to Tecate!
|
|
|
David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64857
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by Baja Bucko
I agree with Davo here...I recently took a look at the Nat Geo maps and just in one gander saw a road going to a place that in real life...has no
road to it cuz I was just there on a mule. So I said to myself-if the only thing I look at is wrong what other things are in error?????? Nope,
didn't buy it. |
Many maps have mistakes... we just hope they are as few as possible. Sometimes a map will have a mistake on purpose as a copyright protection... If
that mistake appears on another map, then it will be known where the info originated!
The Baja Almanac has mistakes, but it is the best we have for a detailed Baja topo road/ trail map. The mistakes are not Landon's fault, but are the
same that is on the base topo maps he uses, from the Mexican government.
Some of those errors include:
showing an auto road between San Francisco de la Sierra and Santa Marta;
the road to San Juan de Dios from Hwy. 1 is misaligned,
as is the road south of Las Flores;
between San Agustin and Cataviņa the old Baja road is shown as paved Hwy. 1 when the highway is 1-2 miles south/west and parallel to the old road;
the correct names of Bahia San Luis Gonzaga and Ensenada de San Francisquito are reversed;
Arroyo el Volcan and Arroyo Zamora are reversed;
an auto road is shown going to Los Dolores...
Stuff like that!  
|
|
|
burnrope
Nomad
Posts: 214
Registered: 10-24-2006
Member Is Offline
|
|
That's great news that it's at the printers.
|
|
|
David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64857
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Offline
Mood: Have Baja Fever
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by burnrope
That's great news that it's at the printers. |
Yes... as stated in this thread of May 1, 2009: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=38505
|
|
|
burnrope
Nomad
Posts: 214
Registered: 10-24-2006
Member Is Offline
|
|
I need the new Almanc so I can find my way to San Buenaventura for some turtle soup.
|
|
|
burnrope
Nomad
Posts: 214
Registered: 10-24-2006
Member Is Offline
|
|
Hurricane, Smchurricane. I need to know what's really important. What's the status of the New/Revised Baja Almanac?
|
|
|
Casey67
Junior Nomad
Posts: 75
Registered: 4-4-2009
Location: Bahia Concepcion
Member Is Offline
Mood: Baja Hot
|
|
Indeed. I finally broke down and grabbed a new copy of the previous edition from an Amazon.com seller for $75 (PEZCIFICO). He has more copies in mint
condition for the same price. Better than the ~$300 I've seen some going for.
Hopefully the new edition is out in time for the quickly approaching winter Nomad migration.
|
|
|
| Pages:
1
2
3 |
![[*]](images/xmbforum/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
