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[*] posted on 8-21-2008 at 01:21 PM


See what they said about my thread about Nomad campfires last June.

Go to http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=24959#pid2320...
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[*] posted on 8-21-2008 at 02:21 PM
and another small voice


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and another insult from an "old timer."
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[*] posted on 8-21-2008 at 02:36 PM
Thumbs up from the Jefe- PRICELESS!!


Thanks to all of you for all the great affirmation,
and especially thanks to our fearless leader for his 'thumbs up" this morning,
It makes me feel like I, in some sense, captured what Nomad is (or should be) all about.

Everyone have a great day,
those of you in Baja
and those of us that wish we were there...
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[*] posted on 8-21-2008 at 03:01 PM


another big voice...affirmative amiga



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[*] posted on 8-21-2008 at 03:46 PM
A voice from the wilderness


Doug, looks like we need much more than a thumbs up here............It has been a while since I posted because of several things...one of the most important is most of the folks that have made this a fun place to visit seem to be hiding just as am I.

Thanks Runner for your efforts.

tsgarcia69..........no need to google me because everyone on this board knows who I am and how I think!

Silly little threats somehow do not worry me... but quite the opposite they make me think of honing my old and unused skills.

Diver you have always marched to a different drummer and that is/was fine because, to my knowledge, you never threatened anyone as does this 'gentleman'.




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[*] posted on 8-21-2008 at 04:54 PM


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Originally posted by Baja Bernie
Doug, looks like we need much more than a thumbs up here............It has been a while since I posted because of several things...one of the most important is most of the folks that have made this a fun place to visit seem to be hiding just as am I.

Thanks Runner for your efforts.

tsgarcia69..........no need to google me because everyone on this board knows who I am and how I think!

Silly little threats somehow do not worry me... but quite the opposite they make me think of honing my old and unused skills.

Diver you have always marched to a different drummer and that is/was fine because, to my knowledge, you never threatened anyone as does this 'gentleman'.



I have just reread the posts and saw nothing that could be interpreded as threatening by anybody.
Is it just me or are some people being drama queens here.
Lighten up people, the ruskies have not taken over the board and you can still post whatever and whenever you want.
What next. A general strike until all bad news stops being posted. I agree that the sniping should be curtailed but it has to stop where it begins . With the older members who can not resist jabbing at all posts they do not agree with.
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[*] posted on 8-21-2008 at 05:14 PM


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Diver you have always marched to a different drummer and that is/was fine because, to my knowledge, you never threatened anyone as does this 'gentleman'.


Well thank you, Bernie; really.
I wholeheartedly agree with you and others against offensive behavior in general.
I just had a little, tiny issue with the poster who made the assumptions.
It's all good !
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[*] posted on 8-21-2008 at 05:52 PM
This is a Very Eloquent and Evocative Metaphor


Bajarunner,

The only thing I can think of to add is that when I attended beach campfires with a large and diverse group of people, I learned to keep moving around when the conversation got combative and descended to the, "Oh yeah? If I am, so are you, etc." level.

We have a internet universe with the freedom to respond or not, to seek out other conversations and to start our own and see what results.

Unfortunately, this freedom also offers an temptation to some to vent; to be rude and vulgar anonymously in a way that these persons never would have the courage for in a face-to-face confrontation because there are no consequences.

The only penalties at this virtual beach campfire are the verbal scorn of other, more balanced voices.

I am happy and grateful to have this community to share with and as far as the negative ones go, feh! They will soon get worn out with their bloviating if no one feeds their ego with responses.




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[*] posted on 8-21-2008 at 06:17 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by palmeto99
Quote:
Originally posted by Baja Bernie
Doug, looks like we need much more than a thumbs up here............It has been a while since I posted because of several things...one of the most important is most of the folks that have made this a fun place to visit seem to be hiding just as am I.

Thanks Runner for your efforts.

tsgarcia69..........no need to google me because everyone on this board knows who I am and how I think!

Silly little threats somehow do not worry me... but quite the opposite they make me think of honing my old and unused skills.

Diver you have always marched to a different drummer and that is/was fine because, to my knowledge, you never threatened anyone as does this 'gentleman'.



I have just reread the posts and saw nothing that could be interpreded as threatening by anybody.
Is it just me or are some people being drama queens here.
Lighten up people, the ruskies have not taken over the board and you can still post whatever and whenever you want.
What next. A general strike until all bad news stops being posted. I agree that the sniping should be curtailed but it has to stop where it begins . With the older members who can not resist jabbing at all posts they do not agree with.
:cool:


palmeto99, IMHO, if you'd read the majority of posts touching on this topic from thread to thread, the MINOR issue is bad news, the MAJOR issues are foul language, personal attacks & rude & disrespectful comments. It's an apparent lack of respect for other individuals, Doug & all members. It is possible to agree to disagree! Just as it's possible to state your opposition to an opinion/experience other than your own without being rude, crude, abrasive, threatening or demeaning.
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With the older members who can not resist jabbing at all posts they do not agree with.
:cool:
What is your definition of "older members"? Are you referring to length of membership? Chronological age? Either way, I believe you've been doing a lot of very selective reading; what I've read in the majority of posts is that it's been most experienced posters opinions & experiences which have been receiving the most flack. Granted, the return salvo's have gotten quite heated. That's called self-defense.;)

You apparently feel it's okay for rude, disrespectful posts, in the name of honesty. Well, one can be honest & respectful at the same time.

It appears to me that one person; with multiple pseudonyms; has made it their life's mission to destroy Baja Nomad, and they've gotten a good start at that by driving many, many long-time posters away with all the rude & disrespectful posts! I'm not opposed to new members of any age! What I am opposed to any new or long-time member who feels it's alright to let common human decency, human respect, preservation of human dignity & respect for the posted Board Rules fall by the wayside. When that happens, as it has been for the past couple months, it takes a huge toll to the Board, it's owner, and by extension, the entire membership.

IMO, it's no different than posting a sign that reads "This is your beach, please keep it clean." This is our board & it's obvious throughout the majority of threads that what's been happening "around our campfire" has driven many people off, it's caused others to be fearful of posting under a very strong likelihood of a rude, crude, abrasive response, and it's brought out the worst in some who choose to brave the swamp! IMO; & the opinion of many I've spoken with; the entire flavor of the board has changed for the worse. A few posters are ruining the site for the majority of members, and I think what you refer to as "jabbing" is the reaction to those actions. There are a lot of people fighting here to preserve this site as a viable, informative place to ask for & receive information...in a pleasant & respectful environment.

Can you understand my point of view? Whether or not you agree with it, can you at least acknowledge that not everyone is looking through the same knothole you are, so there can be differing views to each person lined up at the fence?
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[*] posted on 8-21-2008 at 06:26 PM


IMO???

IMHO???


LOL????

See the above a lot in posts.

Thanks!




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[*] posted on 8-21-2008 at 06:29 PM


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Originally posted by udowinkler
IMO???

IMHO???


LOL????

See the above a lot in posts.

Thanks!
Udo, assume you're asking for definitions?

IMO = In my opinion
IMHO = In my humble opinion
LOL = Laughing out loud
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[*] posted on 8-21-2008 at 06:35 PM


I have had the good fortune to meet some really fine people from all walks of life here on Baja Nomad. Some in person and others via online discussions and personal mail. I really do appreciate Doug for providing the forum as well as the nice folks who pay to sponsor the forum. You all get a big thumbs up in my book!

I hope that we can agree to keep the discussions on issue and when we disagree to focus our energy in response to the discussion at hand - not in personal attacks. It sure will make this bonfire a whole lot more pleasant and fun to be part of. We can argue as to who threw the first punch and I could easily dig up lots of posts to make a case one way or the other - Hopefully we are beyond that now.

New posters will come and go, banned members will just rejoin again under yet another new alias (besides the other ones they use here already). Not much we can do about that except to just refuse to play along if and when they do decide to start in with the personal attacks again. I have just made a point to ignore any thread they start and it has made my time here on the forum one heck of a lot more pleasant.

Done!

So who needs a refill on their margarita???




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[*] posted on 8-21-2008 at 06:51 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
Quote:
Originally posted by udowinkler
IMO???

IMHO???


LOL????

See the above a lot in posts.

Thanks!
Udo, assume you're asking for definitions?

IMO = In my opinion
IMHO = In my humble opinion
LOL = Laughing out loud


The age before emoticons.

I don't see ROTFLMAO too much anymore. :tumble:
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[*] posted on 8-21-2008 at 08:08 PM


Stopping in to say thanks bajarunner for a much enjoyed post.

[Edited on 8-22-2008 by CaboMagic]

[Edited on 8-22-2008 by CaboMagic]
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[*] posted on 8-22-2008 at 08:38 AM


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[*] posted on 8-22-2008 at 09:10 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by udowinkler
IMO???

IMHO???


LOL????

See the above a lot in posts.

Thanks!


Udo, try:
http://www.gaarde.org/acronyms/




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[*] posted on 8-22-2008 at 10:10 AM


I'm with RUNNER, stop the personal insults...



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[*] posted on 8-23-2008 at 09:41 AM


Have patience, be willing to get attacked verbally, be strong enough to not let the anti-nomads chase you off...

Sure, I have been worked up and insulted over my years here and before on Amigos, but my passion for Baja and sharing with you all keeps me here... Why people feel a need to attack others, vs. a friendly disagreement is beyond me... As said above, we should be able to agree to disagree and then get back to friendships and good Baja times!

I have been honored to meet so many of you over the years and I hope to meet the rest of you some day! You know what I look like and what I drive, so please honk, wave, say 'hi', join me for a cold one, research some Baja history or geology, or just have a relxing time around a campfire together!

Viva Baja Nomad!

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[*] posted on 8-23-2008 at 09:47 AM


If any of you start to smell something bad, it was only me. I melted the bottoms of my tennis shoes resting them on the rocks around the fire pit.

Sorry.

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