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DENNIS
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Jump right in, Fred. The water's nice....today.
Are you talking about driving on this side of the border or north?
By the way, folks. For all of me you've had to endure in the past, You can blame Fred. He first told me about BajaNomad.
[Edited on 9-9-2008 by DENNIS]
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DENNIS
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Actually, I hope somebody can give Fred the straight scoop. Now, I'm confused about all of it. Some time back, a buddy of mine in the states
handed a CHP officer a Mexican drivers license and the cop threw it on the ground. Things have changed?
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Hook
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I cant imagine anyone having an issue down here with different plates/licenses. It's NOB that worried us. States are set up as money making machines
now. They are proactive.
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Fred-o
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SD Plates, Mexican License
Jump right in, Fred. The water's nice....today.
Are you talking about driving on this side of the border or north?
Well, I first meant for Mexico only, but since you mention it...How about views on both?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
I cant imagine anyone having an issue down here with different plates/licenses. It's NOB that worried us. States are set up as money making machines
now. They are proactive. |
It was my understanding forever that if one drove a Mexican plated car, a Mexican DL was a must. Has that part changed?
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
OXXO, not all states, counties, etc. require smog certification. There are many areas of the country that dont require the equivalent of an AQMD
because the level of pollution created by vehicles doesnt justify it and the federal government doesnt require it. |
I agree that not all governmental entities require smog checks, specifically South Dakota. But there is no disputing that having your car smogged on
a regular basis cuts down on air pollution. You have your vehicle smogged because it is the right thing to do, not because you have to do it. That
is called being responsible.
If it is the same as shi-shi in the ocean, why have smog regualtions cut down significantly the amount of air polution in the LA basin?
Do the right thing. Get your vehicle smogged at least every two years....wherever you reside, even if it means driving it back to California.
[Edited on 9-10-2008 by oxxo]
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Hook
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Get a bicycle, dude.
BTW, have you heard that the regs concerning smogging new vehicles has changed in the last couple years in CA? They are admitting that many newer
vehicles mfgr in the last four years) dont need regular smogging anymore cause they pollute so little. Look it up.
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DENNIS
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There are areas within Ca that don't require smogging your car. Arnold hasn't changed that as well, has he?
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El Jefe
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Goodness sakes, OXXO! So I'm supposed to drive the jeep on a 2,000+ round trip to make sure the car that goes about that far in a whole year get it
smogged? Seems a bit wastefull of resources. If I lived in Rosarito Beach it would be another story. If I ever do drive the jeep north, I'll import
the darn thing since that would REALLY be the right thing to do. One of these days I'll sell it and get a Mexican plated car here.
We drive the truck up about once a year, and it's a diesel so it doesn't get smogged anyway. And as far as I know it's not easy to import a diesel.
Really, I was just hoping to find out my status with the old but current California driver license, being that we don't live there any more. We insure
both cars on both sides of the border, although SD does not require proof.
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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maspacifico
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I used to live in Hawaii, had a Hawaii driver license with a couple cars. I shipped one of them to California and used my Dad's address to register it
California. No problem whatsoever. But, to have driver's licenses in two states is illegal, though not impossible. A valid driver's license in any
state covers the US. If you move permanently to another state you should get a new license in that state, unless you are pulling a fast one. I brought
my California registered car down here and actually drove it north twice to get it smogged. That car will never see pavement again, let alone
California. It would still pass a smog test though. A smog test doesn't DO anything other than test for emissions. A good running car is the best
preventative against pollution and the newer the car the less pollution.
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by El Jefe
So I'm supposed to drive the jeep on a 2,000+ round trip to make sure the car that goes about that far in a whole year get it smogged?
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Yes, once every two years.
| Quote: | | We drive the truck up about once a year, and it's a diesel so it doesn't get smogged anyway. |
So if you only drive the Jeep 2000 miles a year, why not just drive the diesel? Why do you need the Jeep? If for some reason you really need that
jeep, do the right thing and have it smogged.
If you are driving 1000 miles to your location in Baja, then that means somewhere in the Los Cabos area. The California DMV has exempted vehicles
that far south. If you want to avoid smog tests there is no need to register in SD.
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by maspacifico
That car will never see pavement again, let alone California. |
Does that mean you are driving it off-road only? The vehicle pollutes just as much off-road as it does on-road. It still needs to be smogged.
| Quote: | | A smog test doesn't DO anything other than test for emissions. A good running car is the best preventative against pollution and the newer the car the
less pollution. |
Exactly! It all has to do with keeping the vehicle well tuned. A smog test checks for a well tuned vehicle.
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maspacifico
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Oxxo,
My car pollutes exactly the same as if I had driven it the 1000 miles to California had it "smogged", and driven it back 1000 miles. 2000 miles is
about 1500 miles further than I have driven it in the last two years. I'm not a pollution expert but "it don't make sense". I repeat, the smog test
doesn't change anything, it just makes sure the car is running properly.
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El Jefe
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Kisses and hugs, the jeep is my wife's car which she uses on the dirt road to town. Easier on her back than the truck. It's OK if we have a car each,
no? Anyhow, your logic is not getting through to me. Should all Mexicans drive their cars to the states to get smogged every two years?
Do you own a smog test garage, you devil you???
[Edited on 9-10-2008 by El Jefe]
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JaraHurd
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I side with OXXO on the whole smog thing. I have no issues with the whole California smog standards because my understanding (and I could be wrong) is
that if you comply with the smog standards, you vehicle will generally emit less pollution into the air. It is sort of like littering. Will throwing
one piece of trash on the ground make that much difference? I guess not, but if everyone did it, you sure would be able to tell.
It just seems like the right thing to do. And I am not worried about any other country or any other state. I simply believe in the smog standards of
California. I will do my part and go about my life that way. All most of us can do is our small part..but I (maybe wrongly..) believe it makes a
difference.
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wornout
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| Quote: | Originally posted by El Jefe
OK, just got my new South Dakota license plates. No more smog cert. hassles to renew.
But what happens now .... |
I think you should drive the jeep up to one of the California Counties that don't have smog, drive around looking for a smog station anyway, then go
to the DVM and register it. That way you would be 'doing the right thing'. Of course the pollution for driving all the way up there and back doesn't
count because 'you are doing the right thing'.
Jeez, here is you kool-aid.
BTW: I have a CA drivers license and drive a SD plated pickup towing a SD plated Travel Trailer. I am in the states for a couple of months during
the summer and a day every 6 weeks or so, all legal. If you work in CA, or stay an extended period of time, you are suppose to license the vehicle in
CA.
When I got my drivers license I told them where I lived. The CA DMV told me I do NOT have to be a resident of California to have a CDL, I just need a
CA mailing address. Maybe this is different away from the border.
It is true SD doesn't require proof of insurance when registeromg/renewing but you do sign a statement saying you will carry insurance on the vehicles
you are licensing.
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by maspacifico
I repeat, the smog test doesn't change anything, it just makes sure the car is running properly. |
That statement is incorrect. A car that is tuned properly meets California Emission standards. A car that is not tuned properly, does not meet
California Emission standards.
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by El Jefe
It's OK if we have a car each, no? Anyhow, your logic is not getting through to me. |
Sure it's okay, just get them both smogged.
| Quote: | | Should all Mexicans drive their cars to the states to get smogged every two years? |
Why bring the Mexicans into it? YOU need to do what is right.
| Quote: | | Do you own a smog test garage, you devil you??? |
No, but wish I was better at keeping my car in tune. So, I drive my CA plated vehicle back to California to get it smogged every two years.
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Get a bicycle, dude. |
I have one in Mexico, a Specialized carbon fiber MB.
I have one in California, a Felt carbon fibre Road bike.
Wanna race?
| Quote: | | BTW, have you heard that the regs concerning smogging new vehicles has changed in the last couple years in CA? They are admitting that many newer
vehicles mfgr in the last four years) dont need regular smogging anymore cause they pollute so little. Look it up. |
Great! Then those people who own them don't have to worry about getting them licensed in SD to avoid smog requirements. El Jefe should buy one.
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wornout
I think you should drive the jeep up to one of the California Counties that don't have smog, drive around looking for a smog station anyway, then go
to the DVM and register it. That way you would be 'doing the right thing'. |
Yep, it's one of the responsibilities you assume when purchasing and driving a vehicle.
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