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El Jefe
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At Berkeley I took a California History class. Most people in the bay area didn't think much of us heathens from southern California, uncultured as we
were. The professor of the class once refered to the two regions of our fair state as Superior California and Inferior California. He may have been
joking. I wasn't sure.
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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Mango
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Wait.. lets not leave Jefferson State out of all this fun..
Seriously though.. I think Baja California norte.. or use in context of the "northern state of Baja California."
I think the whole issue is worth a note in the preface just to inform readers of what is what and lay down the accepted terms. Then possibly go ahead
and make up your own terms (with a disclaimer as to the accepted terms) like BCN and BCS.
Funny.. some people just have a hard time with it.. I was trying to send some money to Baja California via western union a while back...
After informing the girl behind the counter that I wanted to send money to Mexico, she began entering data into the computer and then told me, "There
is no state called Baja California"
I said, "Yes, there is.."
"No, .. I have it right here.. Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, etc.. no Baja California."
"Wrong country" , I said.
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LOSARIPES
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Do not be confused............ just read Platinum David K above. He has it right. I after reading David you are still confused, read it again....
and learn it!
just kidding......
Have fun
Aripes
God bless America
and Baja tambien
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Pappy Jon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MangoFunny.. some people just have a hard time with it.. I was trying to send some money to Baja California via western
union a while back...
After informing the girl behind the counter that I wanted to send money to Mexico, she began entering data into the computer and then told me, "There
is no state called Baja California"
I said, "Yes, there is.."
"No, .. I have it right here.. Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, etc.. no Baja California."
"Wrong country" , I said. |
Reminds me of a column in New Mexico Magazine called "One of our 50 is missing." Here are two examples. There is a reason New Mexico finds it
necessary to include the letters "USA" on it's license plates.
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Zipping Along:
When Chris Linn, of Santa Fe, recently tried to set up a second e-mail account with Yahoo, he was tossed some curveballs by the Internet giant. “On
the sign-in page, they request the country of origin and a zip code, so I selected ‘United States’ and entered ‘87505,’ a Santa Fe zip code,” Linn
says. He immediately received an error message stating that “the zip is not for the country selected.”
“I tried ‘87501’ and ‘87504’ [both Santa Fe zip codes], but received the same error message each time,” Linn says. “So, thinking of your ‘One of Our
Fifty Is Missing’ column, I changed the country selection to ‘Mexico.’ Bingo! No error message, and the signup was complete! Perhaps their last web
programming was outsourced to another country. Or perhaps knowledge of the 50 states is not a job prerequisite.”
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Towering Faux Pas:
J. O. Johnson, of Organ, had to do a double-take when poring over Time magazine’s latest book, Portraits of the Planet: Nature’s Wonders(Twenty-First
Century Books, 2008). Showcased in the volume were some of Earth’s most stunning geographical gems, including an expansive half-page aerial photograph
of Ship Rock, in northwestern New Mexico.
But Johnson got another storyline after reading the caption: “Rising above it—Shiprock in Mexico, a sacred site to the Navajo, towers 1,583 feet over
the surface of the high desert plain.”
“The photo is well laid out and stunning to see. But the amazing thing is (according to Time) that this edifice has been relocated without anyone
being told,” Johnson says. “I was traveling through the Gallup area just two weeks earlier, and had I known that they were going to move Ship Rock, I
would have taken many pictures to remember it by.”
"The association of flowers and warm-blooded love is more than a romantic convention; it is based upon one of the great advances in the evolution
of life." Ed Abbey
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capt. mike
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hahahaha!!!!!!
i am with Bill on this one..... who cares?? call it what you want.
call it "the" baja.
talk about an innane subject.
last on the importance header of my recent issue of who gives a crap magazine!
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BajaBad
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Ok, another battle lost -- up at 6 a.m. and all references to 'Baja Sur' have been corrected to Baja California Sur, all references to Baja California
(after the intro section where both states are clearly defined and explained) have been updated to Baja California Norte... and now will go back and
correct to Baja California norte.
You people are no fun 
Just for kicks, and so everyone can sleep better at night... myself included, all mentioning of 'the Baja' has been changed to 'Baja' (weeks ago),
though I thought it was kind-of cute. Again, you people are no fun.
... yes Mr. Ken Cooke, I did catch the 'the Baja' jibe 
Last but not least, I actually think 'La Baja' as in Viva La Baja - is more correct than 'Baja' as in 'Viva Baja'. Baja - translated as 'lower' in
this instance - is a noun, 'lower' is a place.
ok, time for a nap! Appreciate the comments 
BajaBad
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David K
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Or, like this: Baja California (norte)... so there is no confusion that 'norte' is part of the official name... just there to define which half of the
peninsula.
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BajaBad
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Perfect and you all are my morning heros... except Capt'n Mike... who maybe should avoid clicking on subject headers of Baja Nomad email threads that
he may find the topic to be 'innane' - makes good sense to me 
BajaBad
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MrBillM
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Being Correct
Those who are concerned need to go to work on the Surfers. Doing a cursory search, there seem to be a LOT of Surfer sites that use the dreaded "Baja
Norte" term. This corruption should not stand.
I have to say that I'm somewhat surprised to find the foremost promoter of "Shell Island" concerned with correct terminology.
Baja Oklahoma ??
No idea if it WAS a Book. Maybe an original screenplay. 1988 movie with Lesley Ann Warren and Peter Coyote.
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Dave
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Why sewers run downhill
| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Baja Oklahoma ??
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Baja Oklahoma is texas.
Ask any Okie. 
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Pappy Jon
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| Quote: | Baja Oklahoma is texas.
Ask any Okie. |
Now that's funny.
"The association of flowers and warm-blooded love is more than a romantic convention; it is based upon one of the great advances in the evolution
of life." Ed Abbey
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Pappy Jon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Those who are concerned need to go to work on the Surfers. Doing a cursory search, there seem to be a LOT of Surfer sites that use the dreaded "Baja
Norte" term. This corruption should not stand. |
No it shouldn't. We need to educate the world into the proper use of Baja California norte! And we should set the example right here. 
"The association of flowers and warm-blooded love is more than a romantic convention; it is based upon one of the great advances in the evolution
of life." Ed Abbey
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capt. mike
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except Capt'n Mike 
aw come on BB. take a ride with me some time and i'll show you the baja
from an entirely new perspective!
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gnukid
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Mike
Its appropriate and polite to know the name of the region you visit or refer to in publication. Its rude to Mexico and the People of Mexico to
disrespect the issue of their correct name. Its not a joke, its not funny, you are being rude to not only BB but to the people of Baja and all us
here.
So go ahead and make fun, and say it doesn't matter. It does matter and it matters greatly to us that BB is making the effort to be correct according
to the History of Baja California.
Your comments are insulting, stop it.
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Bajajack
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I've never called it the baja
I usually just call it "The T**let"
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the
American people.\'
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
Theodore Roosevelt
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MrBillM
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Crude Rude Prude ?
Baja Norte. Baja Norte. Baja Norte.
There.
We should contract for a poll among Mexicans to see how they view this important subject and adjust our acts accordingly. I'm sure that it's right up
there with Social Welfare and Oil Revenues. Some things are SO important they can't be ignored.
How about "Baja Mexico" ? Awhile back there was the same sort of nonsense over that term with the same pomposity regarding Correctness and Offense.
The Mexicans who were using that term on T-Shirts and elsewhere were obviously renegades with a lack of appreciation for their
correct heritage.
Maybe the same ones here ?
AND, I KNOW that Baja Oklahoma is Texas. I saw the movie more than once.
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David K
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Let's be clear.... People in Baja California call the place 'Baja' or 'La Baja' all the time! It has become so well known, that the word/ name 'Baja'
can live alone without 'California' being attached !
Can you see this lable of Mexicali Beer, brewed in Baja California (in Tecate actually), and purchased in Baja California (at the Half Way House)?
It says it is from: Baja, Mexico ("La cerveza de Baja, Mexico") 
[Edited on 9-12-2008 by David K]
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You are all too incredibly kind (Gnukid +) and no worries!!!
Capt'n Mike & me (yes... it should be 'I') had it out in a full one on one U2U battle... now I'm just waiting for when I get to go for a ride in
his plane
Cheers, BB
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capt. mike
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any time you want to go BB
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBad
You are all too incredibly kind (Gnukid +) and no worries!!!
Capt'n Mike & me (yes... it should be 'I') had it out in a full one on one U2U battle... now I'm just waiting for when I get to go for a ride in
his plane
Cheers, BB |
just don't bring Gnew Gkid. he's no fun and WAAAAYYYY toooo sensitive. i have no time for whiney types.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
AND, I KNOW that Baja Oklahoma is Texas. I saw the movie more than once. |
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Baja-Oklahoma/Dan-Jenkins/e...
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